Memes May 25, 2024 @ 6:41am
Ryzen 5700X3D uses more wattage than Ryzen 5800X3D?
This is my Current setup https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dP43pB right now and I wanted to upgrade my CPU and GPU but I wanted to stick with the same PSU. The safest route is I can go for a 5800X3D + RX 6800 non XT https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZJrs4M PCPartPicker said estimated wattage would be like 520W but I might wanted to go for the RX 6800XT - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QvXqz6 when it shoots up to an estimated 570W and apparently if I do for with a cheaper CPU alternative the 6800XT + 5700X3D https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c6wJ4M wattage shoots up for some reason to 606W. Is PCPartPicker has the wattage information wrong or the 5700X3D has more wattage usage than the 5800X3D?
Last edited by Memes; May 25, 2024 @ 6:45am
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MancSoulja May 25, 2024 @ 7:57am 
They both have the same TDP, 105w
_I_ May 25, 2024 @ 8:29am 
thats what happens with higher binned cpu/gpu
better performance at similar wattage
They have the same TDP. It's listed as 105W, but the 105W TDP CPUs tend to use up to 142W total, though that's the non-X3D models. the X3D models often end up using less (typically less than 100W) as they often hit a raw voltage and/or thermal limit first. The X3Ds are as efficient as it gets in performance per watt for gaming.

The 6800 XT is listed as 300W, so the CPU and GPU plus rest should typically have you below 500W. As long as you're not overclocking the GPU, I think you'll be fine on wattage alone and it will more come down to if the transient spikes trip OCP on that particular unit. If it does, the unit will just shut down and you'll know.

If you're worried about wattage, the 7800 XT is more available and outside edge cases, matches or exceeds the 6800 XT in performance while using less power. It's more between the 6800 and 6800 XT in power use.

Else, the RTX 4070/Super use even less, but you'll be paying more and/or getting less rasterization performance and less VRAM, in case that's why you were looking at AMD. But if you're on the fence about power use, it might be another consideration.
Last edited by Illusion of Progress; May 25, 2024 @ 9:53am
r.linder May 25, 2024 @ 10:12am 
The reason why the 5700X3D could use more power is because it's a bad 5800X3D bin, lower quality bins will require more power
The 5800x3d is slightly more efficient, however, the 5700x3d uses less power. This is observed throughout various metrics online. It also due to the lower clock speed.
_I_ May 25, 2024 @ 11:30am 
at the same clocks a higher binned cpu will need less power
when its clocked higher it will need more power, making it similar power draw to the lower binned cpu at lower clocks

lower clock does not mean lower power on different silicon, thats just how the silicon lottery works
Memes May 25, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:
They have the same TDP. It's listed as 105W, but the 105W TDP CPUs tend to use up to 142W total, though that's the non-X3D models. the X3D models often end up using less (typically less than 100W) as they often hit a raw voltage and/or thermal limit first. The X3Ds are as efficient as it gets in performance per watt for gaming.

The 6800 XT is listed as 300W, so the CPU and GPU plus rest should typically have you below 500W. As long as you're not overclocking the GPU, I think you'll be fine on wattage alone and it will more come down to if the transient spikes trip OCP on that particular unit. If it does, the unit will just shut down and you'll know.

If you're worried about wattage, the 7800 XT is more available and outside edge cases, matches or exceeds the 6800 XT in performance while using less power. It's more between the 6800 and 6800 XT in power use.

Else, the RTX 4070/Super use even less, but you'll be paying more and/or getting less rasterization performance and less VRAM, in case that's why you were looking at AMD. But if you're on the fence about power use, it might be another consideration.

Would undervolting both CPU and GPU also help in the long run as well?
_I_ May 25, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
undervolting is just like overclocking

lower core voltage = less stable and lower temps

tweak and test, til you find sable config
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