GPU Utilization at 100% in a game. Bitcoin Miner or just poor specs optimizaiton?

[NoticedAlarm]

I was playing this random game I found, it started getting laggy so I checked my FPS. My GPU was using 100%. Is this a bitcoin miner or something wrong with the game's optimization?

[Shaggin'Wagon]

Първоначално публикувано от PopinFRESH:

When nVidia launched gsync there was no option to "turn off Vsync" when using gsync. It was always the equivalent of enabling gsync and setting vsync to on in the current NVCP/NVAPP options.

It wasn't until 2 years later that they added the option to turn off the vsync behavior with gsync enabled to allow gsync to turn off if the frame rate exceeded the displays max refresh rate.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-gets-even-better/

Gsync enabled + Vsync off = no adjustment to vblanking, and allows frame rate to exceed the display's maximum refresh rate (with tearing being reintroduced by disabling gsync).

Gsync enabled + Vsync on = how gsync originally worked which will be adaptive through the gsync range, will adjust vblanking to mitigate uneven frame pacing, and will lock the frame rate to the displays maximum refresh rate if a game is able to exceed that frame rate.

.. okay you just demonstrated you know nothing about technology, good job. We've always been able to disable vsync (even with gsync). Just because it's not exposed to us in the nvidia control panel does not mean that we can't do it. This is why 3rd party tools like Nvidia Profile Inspector existed: So we can control our systems by setting things that aren't available in the control panel but still exist in the drivers.

You didn't even mention that or comment about it being possible which means you probably didn't even know about Profile Inspector. And you act like it wasn't possible just because Nvidia didn't show it in the control panel ... LOL. Gods you're completely laughable.

I really can't believe you write some of the stuff you write in public. First you actually tried to claim Vsync doesn't add input delay (laughable!) and now this... oh wow I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. 😂😂😂

[r.linder]

100% GPU utilisation is perfectly normal operation, lag can be caused by the GPU being too slow to keep up with the load in one or more ways, lacking in VRAM capacity, or an issue with the game itself being poorly made or optimised.

i.e. Running a game with a GTX 1050 Ti in a game that requires at least a 1060 or uses at least 4GB would be a hardware limitation causing at least some of the performance issues.

[PopinFRESH]

Първоначално публикувано от Shaggin'Wagon:

Първоначално публикувано от PopinFRESH:

When nVidia launched gsync there was no option to "turn off Vsync" when using gsync. It was always the equivalent of enabling gsync and setting vsync to on in the current NVCP/NVAPP options.

It wasn't until 2 years later that they added the option to turn off the vsync behavior with gsync enabled to allow gsync to turn off if the frame rate exceeded the displays max refresh rate.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-gets-even-better/

Gsync enabled + Vsync off = no adjustment to vblanking, and allows frame rate to exceed the display's maximum refresh rate (with tearing being reintroduced by disabling gsync).

Gsync enabled + Vsync on = how gsync originally worked which will be adaptive through the gsync range, will adjust vblanking to mitigate uneven frame pacing, and will lock the frame rate to the displays maximum refresh rate if a game is able to exceed that frame rate.

.. okay you just demonstrated you know nothing about technology, good job. We've always been able to disable vsync (even with gsync). Just because it's not exposed to us in the nvidia control panel does not mean that we can't do it. This is why 3rd party tools like Nvidia Profile Inspector existed: So we can control our systems by setting things that aren't available in the control panel but still exist in the drivers.

You didn't even mention that or comment about it being possible which means you probably didn't even know about Profile Inspector. And you act like it wasn't possible just because Nvidia didn't show it in the control panel ... LOL. Gods you're completely laughable.

I really can't believe you write some of the stuff you write in public. First you actually tried to claim Vsync doesn't add input delay (laughable!) and now this... oh wow I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. 😂😂😂

You have no idea what you’re talking about but you go right on thinking you know more than Nvidia. 🤡

When gsync launched, when it was enabled it functioned as the current Gsync enabled + Vsync on in NVCP. You could toggle vsync in PI ‘till your finger fell of; it did nothing because it was overridden by the gsync settings. You don’t think you can have tearing when fps is lower than the refresh rate; so you clearly don’t understand how display output works. Keep yappin, no one cares what you say because you never have any evidence to back up anything you say other than a weak attempt at an appeal to authority “because I’ve been gaming a long time”.

[kingjames488]

Първоначално публикувано от Omega:

You want 100% GPU utilization in games, it means the GPU is running at full capacity and is putting as many images on the screen as possible. It means the GPU is not being limited in performance by other components in the system.

this is a weird twisted view that you've been lead to believe by GPU companies... probably to burn out your GPU faster.

I hear people talking about how many frames they get in games like "oh I get like 300FPS with this new GPU!!"

nothing is using 300FPS. there's no reason to have your GPU running un-checked other than to burn it out faster.

you're better off properly limiting your card through settings and running it only as hard as is needed to deliver the performance you want.

#marketing

[Shaggin'Wagon]

Първоначално публикувано от PopinFRESH:

You don’t think you can have tearing when fps is lower than the refresh rate; so you clearly don’t understand how display output works.

I don't think, I know. I've been gaming on PC's since the MS-DOS 3.3 days with 8086 processors through today. I've never seen tearing in any game that I've ever played and I've also never used vsync or gsync. No tearing back then and no tearing today in today's games either even with modern computers in windows 11.

It seems to me that you "believe blindly" in this "Sync technology" so much that you never even bothered to try to configure a computer correctly without it. If you had then you would of realized a long time ago how what I wrote is true.

I'll outline it again for you, it's very simple: Disable vsync in-game. Disable gsync in control panel. Disable vsync in control panel globally off for all games. Set a frame rate limit in the nvidia control panel to whatever your monitor's maximum refresh rate is, globally, for all games. Go play games. Enjoy gaming with no delays in input, low latency and no tearing.

[kingjames488]

you generally don't get tearing if you run a higher refresh rate than the monitor... that's kinda how they're conning people with this 300+FPS nonsense.

[PopinFRESH]

Първоначално публикувано от Shaggin'Wagon:

Първоначално публикувано от PopinFRESH:

You don’t think you can have tearing when fps is lower than the refresh rate; so you clearly don’t understand how display output works.

I don't think, I know. I've been gaming on PC's since the MS-DOS 3.3 days with 8086 processors through today. I've never seen tearing in any game that I've ever played and I've also never used vsync or gsync. No tearing back then and no tearing today in today's games either even with modern computers in windows 11.

It seems to me that you "believe blindly" in this "Sync technology" so much that you never even bothered to try to configure a computer correctly without it. If you had then you would of realized a long time ago how what I wrote is true.

I'll outline it again for you, it's very simple: Disable vsync in-game. Disable gsync in control panel. Disable vsync in control panel globally off for all games. Set a frame rate limit in the nvidia control panel to whatever your monitor's maximum refresh rate is, globally, for all games. Go play games. Enjoy gaming with no delays in input, low latency and no tearing.

Can you explain how you don't get tearing if your refresh rate is 100Hz but you can only average 68 fps in some game?

Again your "i've been gaming for x amount of time" is a worthless appeal to authority; you are not an authority on how display technology works and you've provided no evidence to support your claims. Being incorrect for a long time doesn't suddenly make you correct after some period of time.

[Shaggin'Wagon]

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

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You've posted so many hundreds of incorrect technical comments in the past that now anything you write can't be taken seriously.

[_I_]

Първоначално публикувано от Shaggin'Wagon:

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

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You've posted so many hundreds of incorrect technical comments in the past that now anything you write can't be taken seriously.

and you have never looked up how any of it works

how do you think it works?
how would you fill 100 frames with the info from 83 without leaving blank lines or duplicating anything?

the same way you do on this forum? fill it with crap or incorrect info?

or please explain it, im sure gpu and display mfg would love a new way to do it without any more delays

[Mad Scientist]

Първоначално публикувано от Shaggin'Wagon:

Първоначално публикувано от Mad Scientist:

Not all games allow controlling of the fps limit, and your comment in its entirety is self defeating. Controlling temperature overall especially during summer is a fully legitimate reason.

Have noticed most of the other users keep correcting you as well.

Yes that is true and that is why you limit it in the FPS at the driver level OUTSIDE of the game in either the AMD control panel or the Nvidia control panel. Which works on all games. We can limit the FPS of all games and enjoy no tearing WITHOUT vsync. Vsync is NEVER necessary for gaming on PC with windows. It never has been in the entire history of computer gaming.

It appears you don't have the tech knowledge you insist on because many generations of gpu control panel software don't allow for FPS specific controls, thus without game or amd/nvidia software being able to limit FPS then vsync is still entirely a relevant option that many have utilized to keep temperatures under control in addition to any game-relevant settings.

Seems that it's just some chosen crusade to go against the use of the feature in general, despite also having been historically used by gpu vendors to control things like screen tearing including a specific subset of driver settings which when paired together solves tearing entirely in a fair amount of games.

I still see basically every user correcting you as well.

[Shaggin'Wagon]

Първоначално публикувано от Mad Scientist:

It appears you don't have the tech knowledge you insist on because many generations of gpu control panel software don't allow for FPS specific controls, thus without game or amd/nvidia software being able to limit FPS then vsync is still entirely a relevant option that many have utilized to keep temperatures under control in addition to any game-relevant settings.

Seems that it's just some chosen crusade to go against the use of the feature in general, despite also having been historically used by gpu vendors to control things like screen tearing including a specific subset of driver settings which when paired together solves tearing entirely in a fair amount of games.

I still see basically every user correcting you as well.

Nvidia Inspector has been able to limit the FPS in the nvidia driver for years, even if it wasn't exposed in the control panel. There's similar software to create FPS limits in the AMD drivers for AMD video cards years before it existed in the current control panel as well. Just because you didn't know it existed does not mean that it didn't exist.

[Shaggin'Wagon]

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

it may sound like it, but its not libel if its true.

Unfortunately that's not how the steam forums work. You can not insult other people in the steam forums. There are rules for a reason.

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

and apparently you dont know how things work, is it wrong to try to explain in simpler terms how things do actually work int the real world?

I know exactly how things work. It's you that needs to educate yourself about computers and technology. You very frequently post wrong and incorrect things all over the steam forums.

Like this one time here:

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

ram cant be overclocked
if it could and be stable they would bin at higher freq or lower timings and sell it as that

You actually wrote a comment in public saying it's not possible to overclock computer ram at all...

Or this comment here where you said the I7-3770 can't be overclocked:

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

3770 cant be overclocked, no point of using anything better

See here: https://valid.x86.fr/l4m06r

[_I_]

*most ram cannot be overclocked and be stable
you can swap cl timings for moar mhz, but its performance will fall

there were a few ddr3 800mhz kits that could be overclocked to 1600+ with stock timings
but they were extremely rare and needed more than 1.5v

as for that i7 3770, he may have a modded bios to allow for higher turbo multiplier, and some of those allowed bios to be tricked into thinking it a k variant

by default the 3770 in an unmodded board will not allow overclocking

way back then, i had a amd pii x2 545-c2, and a board allowed to be unlocked to the x4 b45-c2
because amd soft locked 2 of its working cores to sell it as a dual core when quad core sales were not very high

if you want me to go through all of your posts looking for errors, it would take seconds
most are here
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Shaginwagon/posthistory/

[Rod]

Why dont you post on blurbusters? The forum has a gentlemman called the chief. Who will like a textbook know the answer instantly.


Im confident he will dismiss many of your claims. Like the fps limiter being enough to stop tearing. Input lag? He will know as hes highly respected. So go ahead. Link us when you do it. They also have an faq and guide.

[PopinFRESH]

Първоначално публикувано от Rod:

Why dont you post on blurbusters? The forum has a gentlemman called the chief. Who will like a textbook know the answer instantly.


Im confident he will dismiss many of your claims. Like the fps limiter being enough to stop tearing. Input lag? He will know as hes highly respected. So go ahead. Link us when you do it. They also have an faq and guide.

I would love to see this dude try to tell Mark he is wrong on how displays work 🤣