hot pc.

[†Knnyc†]

yesteday i was playin bfv and my pc shut off and was blazing hot. so i took it to bestbuy and my power supplied fried, as i only had 3 fans cooling off my i900k and my 2080 ti super. i then bought a new power supply and 3 120mm fans. i have them all installed. two fans on the top of my pc as exaust fans, one on the back facing the cpu and i also have a coolmaster radiator fan set of 2x on the back. i have the coolmaster fans set as my intake cool air and the wrest are all exuast fans. the best buy employee told me to go to my bios and set the fans max speed so i dont overheat the pc again but it 's making my pc still hot.... i was playing bfv benchmarking and i was getting about 80 to 90 to 100 cooling temp. i watched a youtube video and they were pulling a constant 50 to 70 most. i dont want my parts to get defective. is there something i can do or should do? i have all my fans set to extreme and i want to jus play normaly without my pc being a oven.

[†Knnyc†]

the radiator is mounted on the front of the case. where people usually put the 360 fan setup. it is blowing cold air into the case. my only two intake fans.

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Case is in an open area? Not stuck in a restricted space?

The top fans and back fan are blowing air out of the case? The case doesn't look like it has a restrictive dust filter. With 3 fans out it should be pulling air through the many extra holes.

What cpu ?

How are temperatures at idle or watching videos?

[†Knnyc†]

the top fans and solo back fan is pulling air out the case. those 3 are my exaust fans. i have a intel i9900k processor. i use nzxt cam to monitor temps.

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What model are your new case fans? Do they seem to move an ok amount of air?

The case has a mesh front panel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXQQZtD_SI

[†Knnyc†]

they are : corshair LL120 RGB 120mm Dual Light Loop RGB LED PWM Fan — 3 Fan Pack with Lighting Node PRO. i really jus need someone to tell me the correct airflow pattern. because the guys over at geek squad told me the way i have it is correct and my pc is still getting hot and while im benchmarking playing bfv my cpu is peaking at 90 to 98 degrees.

[†Knnyc†]

iits not a mesh panel in the front. its solid.

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†Knnyc† cs.money の投稿を引用：

iits not a mesh panel in the front. its solid.

Thats the problem. Need to figure a way around it.

[†Knnyc†]

? wdym the case came with a solid panel not a mesh one like in that YouTube video

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Basically the front of the case has little airflow so the cpu cooler radiator gets less cooling. And it looks like the rest of the cases cooling gets reduced also but I think that might have been from less fans then your using. So how to cool the radiator better and get that heat out of the case?

from the video:

cpu torture test with tower air cooler (so no real gpu heat)

mesh front panel cpu temp 48C+ amibient (~18c) = 66C

solid front panel cpu temp 71C+ amibient (~18c) = 89C

Gpu torture test (so no real cpu heat)

mesh front panel cpu temp 49C+ amibient (~18c) = 67C

solid front panel cpu temp 62C+ amibient (~18c) = 80C

Air cooler might have gotten better cooling that a radiator in the front?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXQQZtD_SI

[r.linder]

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i think i applied enough thermal paste. could very much be the mounting pressure. me and my friend were installing my fans in today and we had to take it off. maybe we didint screw it on shut tight. thats a possibility though.

You can also apply too much.

That's a myth. GamersNexus pretty much proved that, they did the testing because people were claiming this, and the results are surprising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUWVVTY63hc
The pressure from mounting a cooler onto the IHS will push paste outwards which is why a pea-size dot works, it spreads out. If you put too much on, excess will just get pushed off the edges of the IHS and just be wasted. It doesn't become an insulator like people and even some techtubers claim, there's very little actual evidence that supports that and they're almost always wrong in their assumptions.

†Knnyc† cs.money の投稿を引用：

i have a total of 5 fans. 2 fans pushing cold air in and the wrest are pulling the air out. i have a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2, Close-Loop AIO CPU Liquid Cooler, 240 Radiator, Dual SickleFlow 120mm, RGB Lighting, 3rd Gen Dual Chamber Pump for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1151 cooler. so your saying i need to purchase a rad with bigger fans?

The i9-9900K is a pretty hot CPU, and the ML240L is a pretty lack-luster 240mm AIO, a lot of air coolers easily beat it. I would have suggested at least a Dark Rock Pro 4 or H115i. Could also just be bad contact with the CPU IHS so it's not actually giving proper heat transfer.

You're also using a case that's fairly restrictive, so airflow is going to be choked a little bit no matter how many fans you have. It's an unfortunate thing, most case manufacturers really don't put much care into the actual functional design of cases anymore, they focus on aesthetics.

And if you can control the pump speed in Windows and BIOS (if it's a PWM connection to the CPU_fan or CPU_opt header) then make sure it's always at 100%.

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Basically you can carefully remove the side panel and see if that solves/helps your problem.

If the cpu gets hot very fast like in seconds then part of the cooler that goes onto the cpu might not be on ok or thermal paste etc....

If the cpu takes a bit to heat up then stays hotter maybe the pump isn't working or something. Basically think water sitting on the cpu and not moving.

If the cpu only heats up under load over a longer period of time then case cooling or something. The side panel test should show this if it's the cause.

The new case fans are about 45 cfm each whick is ok. Higher airflow 120 mm fans might be very loud.

Theres likely videos of your case on youtube maybe see what they did and their results. Gaming usually doesn't stress stuff like torture tests so should probably get lower temperatures.

[Jamebonds1]

The Giving One の投稿を引用：

†Knnyc† cs.money の投稿を引用：

i think i applied enough thermal paste. could very much be the mounting pressure. me and my friend were installing my fans in today and we had to take it off. maybe we didint screw it on shut tight. thats a possibility though.

You can also apply too much.

That is not true. C°/W won't be changed much depending on how much you use the thermal paste, so it is only very little to none changed. In my book, Escrove is correct. However, I'm not sure if Gamers Nexus did use a standard deviation which would be nice to know.

[r.linder]

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You can also apply too much.

That is not true. C°/W won't be changed much depending on how much you use the thermal paste, so it is only very little to none changed. In my book, Escrove is correct. However, I'm not sure if Gamers Nexus did use a standard deviation which would be nice to know.

There were a few times in the past where I used a larger blob than a pea and excess paste was stuck to the cooler, passed the edges of the IHS. Ideally, if you want guaranteed coverage over the entire IHS and don't want to waste any paste at all, then manually spreading the paste is the best choice.

You can look at it this way: if the IHS can only hold half a gram of paste spread across when the cooler is mounted, and you use a whole gram, half a gram will get squeezed out the edges around the IHS as a result because there's too much pressure for the paste to all be on the IHS. If you don't apply enough pressure, then sure, more paste can get stuck, but that's a cooler mount issue and not a paste issue.

GN tries their best to keep their tests as consistent as possible and they've made changes to test methodology over the years in order to keep things both up to date and as close to 100% accuracy as possible. I always turn to them for actual in-depth reviews and no so much on just pure entertainment. It seems they're also starting to branch into proper in-depth PSU reviews, something that Jonnyguru hasn't done in awhile.

[Jamebonds1]

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Jamebonds1 の投稿を引用：

That is not true. C°/W won't be changed much depending on how much you use the thermal paste, so it is only very little to none changed. In my book, Escrove is correct. However, I'm not sure if Gamers Nexus did use a standard deviation which would be nice to know.

GN tries their best to keep their tests as consistent as possible and they've made changes to test methodology over the years in order to keep things both up to date and as close to 100% accuracy as possible. I always turn to them for actual in-depth reviews and no so much on just pure entertainment. It seems they're also starting to branch into proper in-depth PSU reviews, something that Jonnyguru hasn't done in awhile.

The PSU reviewer will always make mistakes due to unreliable test equipment. AC source and un-calibrated equipment is the main issue.

But if the reviewer wants to do a much deeper PSU review, then the reviewer will need special test equipment that is incredibly expensive and more difficult to buy.

Also, the Rigol Oscilloscope for my work is not my favorite because it has many issues and costs us more money than Keysight and Tektronix.

[r.linder]

Jamebonds1 の投稿を引用：

Escorve の投稿を引用：

GN tries their best to keep their tests as consistent as possible and they've made changes to test methodology over the years in order to keep things both up to date and as close to 100% accuracy as possible. I always turn to them for actual in-depth reviews and no so much on just pure entertainment. It seems they're also starting to branch into proper in-depth PSU reviews, something that Jonnyguru hasn't done in awhile.

The PSU reviewer will always make mistakes due to unreliable test equipment. AC source and un-calibrated equipment is the main issue.

But if the reviewer wants to do a much deeper PSU review, then the reviewer will need special test equipment that is incredibly expensive and more difficult to buy.

Also, the Rigol Oscilloscope for my work is not my favorite because it has many issues and costs us more money than Keysight and Tektronix.

I'm not aware of what GN is using, but they've been buying expensive equipment for testing PSUs. They just tested a Dell PSU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7hNmuizMB8 and are working on a review of a Gigabyte PSU, but they're still working on their test methodology and how they're going to present it