PC upgrade emachines EL1358G Upgrades any help would be appreciated, i know somewhat but i wanna make sure.
I need help upgrading my eMachines 1358G, I'm trying to upgrade my CPU and graphics card I'm trying to run ATLEAST GTA V example at max graphics no lag and I believe is possible or ARK survival max graphics Or The new COD warzone Max Graphics so I was asking if ya can add This motherboard on here so I can find upgrades to all the other parts and know if it's compatible to this board.

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 925 Processor (AM3 socket) 95w (core voltage of 2.220 V)
MotherBoard: machines EL1358g (PCI- Express) NVIDIA Chipset

Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti (memory size of 2048 Mbytes) GDDR5

RAM: 12 GB ram DDR3 (PC3), 1 corsair vengeance (soon to be x2 and will be 16 GB ram, for now, its 12 GB) and a 4gb shark ram forgot the full name of the 4gb stick I have (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T63BJM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

My power supply: EVGA 550 N1, 550W, 2 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-N1-0550-L1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LYGJL0E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )

My PC CASE: Thermaltake Versa N21 Black Edition Translucent Window Panel SPCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DYXG4Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

CPU Cooler: Legit the original computers, tbh I think imma need One (but imma skip .. for now).

Hard disk or memory: 1TB hard drive I don't think I need to upgrade, I have more than enough.


THE Upgrades I was looking at:

For CPU: Phenom II X4 980, Phenom II X4 945, Phenom II X4 965 or Phenom II X4 965 black edition and or AMD Athlon II X4 645 Processor and .. out of all these I don't know which is an upgrade to my AMD Phenom II x4 925 Processor (AM3 socket) 95w.

For graphics card: MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 128-Bit HDMI/DP 4GB GDRR5 HDCP Support DirectX 12 Dual Fan VR Ready OC Graphics Card (GTX 1650 Gaming X 4G) Link: (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QTMRJTK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1FJ9SEK1UVDTX&psc=1) I don't know, I think it's compatible based on what I've been looking at .. but I'm not too sure, to be honest, and I think its an upgrade from my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti (memory size of 2048 Mbytes) GDDR5 but I'm not sure if my motherboard would work with it, tho I think it would.

Any upgrades that are believed to be compatible and or better then I have that I wrote above? would be amazingly appreciated, that'll be extremely appreciated, thank you all so much.

- Diablo/Tye
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r.linder 18/abr./2020 às 17:57 
No CPU on that socket is worth spending money on. I highly recommend starting fresh with a brand new PC. The 1650 is also not really worth buying because it's a minimum requirement level performer as it is. You'd be spending money for a rather small boost because the CPU is ancient and weak, and is expected to handle a new entry level GPU that was disappointing at launch.

Best bang for the buck:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
MB: MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX
RAM: 16GB DDR4-3200 CL14~16
GPU: GTX 1660S or 5600 XT
PSU: Corsair CXM Series 550W
El DIABLO_007 18/abr./2020 às 19:29 
and how much Money are we talking about?
and tbh My graphics acard and my 16gb ram cortex Is pretty solid, and so is my PSU, for now i want an upgrade
L37 18/abr./2020 às 19:39 
Well, ram is DDR3, you will have to replace it. Not because it is bad, but because new hardware does not support it.
IMO the first step will be replacing motherboard+cpu+ram combination. 660TI is not great, but it still works and if you do not have money to replace everything using it makes sense.
Upgrading CPU on AM3? Makes no sense at all. Even 6-core phenoms are simply too old and slow by now and have issues with some games (or should i say some games do not run at all?) because they are lacking some instruction sets.
Última edição por L37; 18/abr./2020 às 19:43
El DIABLO_007 18/abr./2020 às 19:48 
@L37, Well TBH the system i have runs just about every single game, legit no problem even GTAV, not in the highest highest graphics but it pulls its weight. 1 game im having a bit of problems with is ARK, and one game i couldnt run was COD warzone cuz of the fact that it needed a 3.0 CPU+ which i didnt care much really. Now TBH i only have about at most 300 L$ to spend, and idk what to do. My graphics card is pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tough especially since you say its ancient. My Rams is 16gb, yea DDR3 but im sure i can get a newer motherboard with insane power and a way better Cpu then what i have thats a bit more modern. Im looking for possible solutions not critics ye know, i know my thing isnt the newest but ... ya get the jist
El DIABLO_007 18/abr./2020 às 19:48 
Escrito originalmente por L37:
Well, ram is DDR3, you will have to replace it. Not because it is bad, but because new hardware does not support it.
IMO the first step will be replacing motherboard+cpu+ram combination. 660TI is not great, but it still works and if you do not have money to replace everything using it makes sense.
Upgrading CPU on AM3? Makes no sense at all. Even 6-core phenoms are simply too old and slow by now and have issues with some games (or should i say some games do not run at all?) because they are lacking some instruction sets.
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L37 18/abr./2020 às 20:07 
Escrito originalmente por El DIABLO 007:
@L37, Well TBH the system i have runs just about every single game, legit no problem even GTAV, not in the highest highest graphics but it pulls its weight. 1 game im having a bit of problems with is ARK, and one game i couldnt run was COD warzone cuz of the fact that it needed a 3.0 CPU+ which i didnt care much really. Now TBH i only have about at most 300 L$ to spend, and idk what to do. My graphics card is pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tough especially since you say its ancient. My Rams is 16gb, yea DDR3 but im sure i can get a newer motherboard with insane power and a way better Cpu then what i have thats a bit more modern. Im looking for possible solutions not critics ye know, i know my thing isnt the newest but ... ya get the jist
Well, i am not trying to criticize anything either. Just trying to say that if you try upgrading this hardware you will waste money.
Yes, you can run games. Yes, some will work mostly fine. But at this point the worst part of the system IMO is the platform itself. There are simply no good options for this socket which are worth buying.
Then DDR3... i totally understand that it is annoying that you have to replace it, but you really do. There are few weird options like sandy/ivy bridge xeons that can use DDR3 and have decent performance, but all new hardware switched to DDR4 long time ago. Trying to reuse the ram you will simply waste more money than you save.
My opinion - just pull MB+CPU+RAM and try to sell it. Then buy new MB with modern CPU and ram.
Also i did not say that GPU is "ancient". I said that it is not great, and it really is not. It is a mid-range card from what, 4 generations ago? But still unlike CPU it will actually run any game. And that's why i am saying that it can be left alone for now. You can replace it once you need it/get more money. Just be aware that you will still not be able to run games at max settings untill you replace it.
Última edição por L37; 18/abr./2020 às 20:14
Masque 18/abr./2020 às 20:24 
OP, Escorve is right:

Even in 2015, people were recommending not bothering upgrading the AM3 chips.

https://community.amd.com/thread/190626

Save your money, start from scratch. Folks here can help you build a system if you give them a budget that you're willing to spend.
El DIABLO_007 18/abr./2020 às 20:25 
im willing to spend 450$ PULL IT BOYS!!
El DIABLO_007 18/abr./2020 às 20:27 
I need something better then what i have. And please let me know if ANYTHING i have is worth keeping for my newer upgrade. IMO i wanna keep PSU and graphics card. I was just told imma have to get rid of rams :( ... i bought the other 8gb DDR3 for 62$ and just cancelled the order (hopeing it cancels)
El DIABLO_007 18/abr./2020 às 20:28 
I have the fans, (computer case i wanna use the same one it looks good and works well), so lmk, so yeah, listen the less i can spend the better guys, COVID bs get erwone on the run lol, pLease lmk, right now im trying to use partsBuilders to try and figure out a damn build. But i love what i have so far. Please lmk
Masque 18/abr./2020 às 20:30 
Keep the case and the 1TB drive, and the fans... replace everything else.

My 2 cents.

Everyone else here knows more than me, so I'll leave now.
Última edição por Masque; 18/abr./2020 às 20:30
L37 18/abr./2020 às 21:00 
Well, adding $50 to those $450 you can get something like this[pcpartpicker.com].
PSU should be fine as new hardware is similar to new in terms of power consumption. This will provide the most benefit right away.

Or you can leave the GPU alone and get better CPU/MB, like this[pcpartpicker.com]. Will have considerably better CPU, but because of older GPU game performance will be lower untill you replace the GPU.
Última edição por L37; 18/abr./2020 às 21:02
Bad 💀 Motha 22/abr./2020 às 13:27 
Below gtx 770/780 would be terrible for GTAV at 1080p. Start saving towards a whole new build.

You can't really get any AM3 cpus anymore and unless it allows for an FX 6300 or better it's a pointless upgrade path.

If you let us know decent budget range that's realistic for you, we could go from there and help recommend what to get.
Última edição por Bad 💀 Motha; 22/abr./2020 às 13:28
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