Rx 570 vs Gtx 1050 ti

[Castyles]

I thought about upgrading according to my budget and that left me with a i3 9100f and a Gtx 1050 ti.

But then after comparing both it seems the Rx 570 is the better choice.

Thoughts? I know it's probably going to be hard to get raw facts and unbiased opinions but please try to.

[Wichtelman]

rx 570 is a lot better

why that i3 and not a 6 core ryzen?

[Castyles]

It's more on par with what I want to spend.

What Ryzen cpu do you recommend in the same price-performance range?

[Wichtelman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJhtmsohbw4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZdz8WXEli8

[-=SOF=-WID99]

1050 ti is outdated if you want Nvidia look at the newer card like the GTX 1650 with Gddr 6 memory 4 gig cards .. really you should get a 1660 ti or 1660 Super or better if you plan on playing demanding games as they support more V ram .. and even 6 gig will be kinda weak soon

you can see the benchmarks here
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gtx-1650-gddr6-vs-gddr5-performance

https://www.techspot.com/review/1945-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-super/

[Castyles]

According to
https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Ryzen_5_1600/Radeon_RX_570/0M80Yl28/16/
The performance is worse than with a i3 9100f. What gives?

@SOF WID99: It's too expensive for me and I don't really care for playing on high or ultra options. If it runs without stuttering or overheating issues it's all that matters to me.

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por Castyles:

According to
https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Ryzen_5_1600/Radeon_RX_570/0M80Yl28/16/
The performance is worse than with a i3 9100f. What gives?

Not the performance. Some random numbers on noname website are worse. I think actual gaming tests are more reliable.

[Castyles]

Yeah, I saw the videos. Different GPU's there but, in general, the Ryzen 5 CPU worked better except for a bit of more heat. Plus the I3 9100f kept hitting 100% CPU usage pretty much all the time and that's really bad.

That site, I thought it was reliable, gave something like 16% bottleneck on the i3 and more than 30% on the Ryzen with the same GPU - Rx 570. Hm...

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por Castyles:

Yeah, I saw the videos. Different GPU's there but, in general, the Ryzen 5 CPU worked better except for a bit of more heat. Plus the I3 9100f kept hitting 100% CPU usage pretty much all the time and that's really bad.

That site, I thought it was reliable, gave something like 16% bottleneck on the i3 and more than 30% on the Ryzen with the same GPU - Rx 570. Hm...

But if you use RX 570 in CS:GO with low settings - then even i9-9900k will bottleneck really bad.
No one knows what that website actually tries to say, but bottleneck is not something universal. Simply changing the game or in-game settings can eliminate/introduce CPU bottleneck just like that. Unless there's exact game running at exact settings on exact hardware - no bottleneck is technically possible, and you also can't apply one game's results to other games, as every game is different. So don't overthink bottleneck concept, as to achieve smooth and responsive experience you'd have to limit the framerate via RTSS or Special K to not have bottleneck with any PC. What is important tho is hardware in next-gen consoles, as they will have 8c/16t CPUs, and game developers will do their best to make use of them. So while right now i3-9100 might provide slightly better framerate in something old like CS:GO, as that game doesn't even make full use of 4 threads, when it comes to modern games, and especially next-gen games, there is no competition between 4-threaded i3-9100 and 12-threaded R5-1600 AF.

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por Castyles:

It's more on par with what I want to spend.

What Ryzen cpu do you recommend in the same price-performance range?

If you can find it, 1600 AF. If all you play are games that don't use more than 4 threads (most games up until the last few years) then it really doesn't matter. 9100/F would win in single-threaded titles like CS:GO, but it makes no sense for newer games that push quad-threaded CPUs hard enough.

[Castyles]

I'll go full AMD then, guys. Thanks a lot!

While we're at it tho...

1)I'm not really bothered with overclock but should I get a B model motherboard, just in case?
2)I need a case with space for lots of fans - both air and water to get all the heat off. Thermaltakes are the only ones, afaik, to give what I need for my budget. What model of Thermaltakes -or similar within the price/quality range - do you recommend?

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por Castyles:

1)I'm not really bothered with overclock but should I get a B model motherboard, just in case?

Absolutely do get B motherboard, ideally with 4 memory slots and heatsinks on VRM. This will let you upgrade to even better CPU someday.

[Castyles]

Thank you, Snow.

[Red™]

RX570.
Same price, but RX570 is better.

[GamerWolfOps]

Publicado originalmente por Red™:

RX570.
Same price, but RX570 is better.

It seems to be cheaper then RTX 1000 series thats for sure i might be considering it for my build this year. It seems there are different versions of the RX570 which one should one get? and does the card have Direct 12 support?

The RX570=AMD 3600 would make a good combo.

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por GamerWolfOps:

It seems to be cheaper then RTX 1000 series thats for sure i might be considering it for my build this year. It seems there are different versions of the RX570 which one should one get? and does the card have Direct 12 support?

The RX570=AMD 3600 would make a good combo.

Grab one of the Sapphire cards.
Yes, RX 570 supports DX12.