Is water cooling necessary when not using overclock?

[Nando234]

I'm thinking of upgrading or buying a new PC, part by part.

I was checking the CPUs to go with the RX 7600 that I have, which is pretty new (less than 3 months old, bought it for Helldivers 2).
The thing is that the CPU that a bottleneck calculator is recommending me for this GPU is Ryzen 9 5950x or similar. And in AMD page it recommends water cooling.

I do not plan on using OC, so: Is it really necessary? I will be simply playing games after work, and biggest resolution 1080p.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the full setup.
My current PC is:
Mainboard Assustek PRIME A320M-K
16GB (8x2) DDR4 2666 MHz Ram
CPU Ryzen 5 4600G (Came with it's own cooler)
GPU Assustek RX 7600 8GB OC (If I remember correctly the OC is in the name, but AFAIK it's not over clocked, maybe I should check)
Western Digital NVME (Or something like that, it's connected to the Motherboard) 480GB SSD.

I was thinking of upgrading the CPU because I'm having some FPS drops, nearly freezing the game, sometimes when there are too many attack stratagems in Helldivers 2,

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Bottleneck calculator lol, it`s piece of nonsense. RX 7600 is entry level gaming card that will be fine with pretty much anything even remotely modern.
And no you don`t need water cooling, something like Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 for $35 is perfectly fine even for Ryzen 7 5800X3D or Ryzen 7 7800X3D that are proper gaming CPUs instead of that workload oriented expensive 5950X.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yea even a Ryzen 1700 could output enough raw performance to allow a 7600 to function fully as expected.

7600 is quite a bad GPU for its pricing really.

[nullable]

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Is water cooling necessary when not using overclock?

Water cooling is an option, it's not a necessity.

You can overclock on a good air cooler. You can use water cooling on any PC if you just prefer it over air cooling.

[_I_]

decent air coolers are better than 120mm clc

also depends on the board, if it has no vrm cooling, any clc will just let the board throttle since it will not have any airflow to cool its power delivery areas

dont look at bottleneck calcs, they are all useless, there is always a bottleneck
just depends on the game, res, and refresh rate
low res high refresh rate will show off cpu bottleneck, high res will show off gpu bottleneck

[Nando234]

Bad 💀 Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Yea even a Ryzen 1700 could output enough raw performance to allow a 7600 to function fully as expected.

7600 is quite a bad GPU for its pricing really.

I'm single and taking care of my mother, so I don't have much money to spend on these things. It was with a nearly 25% discount when I got it and I had no GPU back then. I heard it was better than the recommended GPU for Helldivers 2 so I bought it.

Buying hardware in Argentina you end up paying between 2 or 3 times the real price of things most of the time. Even with the discount it was double the price I could see in US online stores at the time.

[Nando234]

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

decent air coolers are better than 120mm clc

also depends on the board, if it has no vrm cooling, any clc will just let the board throttle since it will not have any airflow to cool its power delivery areas

dont look at bottleneck calcs, they are all useless, there is always a bottleneck
just depends on the game, res, and refresh rate
low res high refresh rate will show off cpu bottleneck, high res will show off gpu bottleneck

YEah I just checked. If I choose 1360x768, which was my previous monitor it says a higher bottleneck on the CPU.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

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Bad 💀 Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Yea even a Ryzen 1700 could output enough raw performance to allow a 7600 to function fully as expected.

7600 is quite a bad GPU for its pricing really.

I'm single and taking care of my mother, so I don't have much money to spend on these things. It was with a nearly 25% discount when I got it and I had no GPU back then. I heard it was better than the recommended GPU for Helldivers 2 so I bought it.

Buying hardware in Argentina you end up paying between 2 or 3 times the real price of things most of the time. Even with the discount it was double the price I could see in US online stores at the time.

It`s decent enough for 1080p 60 fps gaming.

[Kobs]

AIO's are about the price of a good air cooler and much more efficient

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Update Motherboard BIOS and get a 5600 or 5600X. That will be a very good bump up and handle the GPU better. Also better becaus3 anytime you have a Ryzen G APU the onboard GPU knocks the PCIE slot for dedicated GPU from X16 down to X8.