OLED displays users, how is the burn-in?

[ChickenTacos]

What's up!

For those of you using OLED (organic light-emitting diode) displays, how bad is the burn-in/image retentiion? Looking at possibly getting into the OLED diplay game in the next year or so (2025-2026), and the problems with burn-in are the main detractor for me. Also, I read that text clarity can be an issue.

Comment?

[nullable]

I've used IPS panels exclusively for the last 9 or 10 years. I've not had any particular issues or complaints. Better viewing angles and better color is nice. The response time people used to hand wring over always ways a non-issue in my opinion, especially the way response time got co-opted by marketing. The biggest issue for some is probably cost, highend IPS panels can be expensive. But I'm willing to spend money on tools I use every day. And between about ten different monitors and six different models I haven't had an issue with IPS glow. I've either been extremely lucky, or perhaps it's not a common/huge issue, especially on later model screens.

I'm sure TN is better than it used to be too. My experiences might be a bit dated. But in my experience the draw for TN is cheap panels and high refresh rates for not a lot of money, which I can't blame people for compromising on the cons, especially if they don't care about them.

[_I_]

va is a better panel, tn is slower to respond and poor angles
ips is better colors but bleed some backlight

on any led backlit display turn down backlight/brightness to ~75% to prevent backlight leds from burning out

oled panels do not have any cooling at all for all 6m+ subpixel leds

[Crawl]

Burn in is a non issue unless you intentionally disable features and try to force burn in. I'm running the LG UltraGear 45". It has numerous features like pixel shift, image cleaning, automatic sleep mode, etc. There is a reason manufacturers have started including several year warranties that cover burn in. Anyone telling you not to buy an OLED because of burn in is uninformed or living in the past.

[_I_]

the anti burn in features try to burn the panel more evenly, not reducing burn, just making it less visible

image shifting, burn in more pixels when the image shifts, kinda blends the burn
or the other method, burning the rest of the pixels to make it more evenly burned
thats kind of a joke too

or increasing brightness on pixels that it thinks are burning, just wear them out more after they are beginning to burn, that will just wear out the panel early

[Crawl]

There's no point in discussing farther because by your logic turning the display on is burn in.

[_I_]

for oled, yes it is

if you rarely or never use it, it wont burn
if you want to use a display for more than a few hours a day and have it last more than 5 years, get something led backlit

[Pocahawtness]

I wonder how many people criticising oled actually have an oled monitor?

[nullable]

Originally posted by Crawl:

There's no point in discussing farther because by your logic turning the display on is burn in.

This kinda happens with every new technology. Early issues persist in people's consciousness long after they're resolved or debunked and it takes a decade for the FUD to die down. Meanwhile people love repeating FUD as long as they feel it makes them look smart and there's an audience for it.

My favorite bit is the hand wringing over wear and tear like it only affects new technologies, old stuff "never" wears out, except when it does, but that doesn't count because we're used to it. New technology my wear out differently and that's scary so, worry worry worry. Worry until it's an embarrassment.

[TRITON XIIIX]

Originally posted by _I_:

va is a better panel, tn is slower to respond and poor angles
ips is better colors but bleed some backlight

on any led backlit display turn down backlight/brightness to ~75% to prevent backlight leds from burning out

oled panels do not have any cooling at all for all 6m+ subpixel leds

What are you talking about? VA is the slowest panel tech out there.
TN is almost par with OLED and IPS is a great middle ground.

[ChickenTacos]

Correct, TN panels are fast. There are TN panels that are *advertised* as being less than 1ms response time. My only problem with TN panels is that they lack HDR, which I would like to experience. For that, it's OLED, which has the distinguished burn-in problems.

IPS has interested me. I would like a fast IPS panel with NO backlight issues. My main office is in a dark room (MUHAHaHaHAHAAAa!!!!) Therefore, I need an outstanding display that works near flawlessly in the dark. IPS doesn't review this way. I need near-perfect black levels out of a display and decent HDR. Maybe another TN panel for me!

[Guydodge]

Originally posted by ChickenTacos:

Correct, TN panels are fast. There are TN panels that are *advertised* as being less than 1ms response time. My only problem with TN panels is that they lack HDR, which I would like to experience. For that, it's OLED, which has the
distinguished burn-in problems.

IPS has interested me. I would like a fast IPS panel with NO backlight issues. My main office is in a dark room (MUHAHaHaHAHAAAa!!!!) Therefore, I need an outstanding display that works near flawlessly in the dark. IPS doesn't review this way. I need near-perfect black levels out of a display and decent HDR. Maybe another TN panel for me!

theres only 1 monitor i found with no BLB and i went threw 5 monitors before i found these
i now own 3 of them ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27" HDR Gaming Monitor, 1440P WQHD many of the others were much more expensive but were complete trash in performance and horrid BLB

[Tiberius]

If burn-in is a non issue, more and more oled manufacturers wouldv put a warranty against it.

All those anti burn-in features are just another marketing gimmick to lure the gullible customers.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Omega:

Like I said, the latest generation of panels, not the 2-4 year old stuff.

This can be true but nobody can possibly know if a 2 year old monitor is able to survive 6-10 years of usage. It can't be known if no new monitor have been used long enough.

[Azza ☠]

Newer OLED monitors will likely not have that burn in issue at all...

What they do is a very slight shift of a single pixel across on the screen when displaying a static image, so those pixels are actually still moving back and forwards. It detects when it's idle and moves it for you so slightly you would have to be really up close and watching for it to even notice.

If the OLED monitor doesn't support that technology, I would recommend using active moving wallpaper, such as from Wallpaper Engine:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/431960/Wallpaper_Engine/

You could also lower the brightness of the screen. Some OLED monitors use that technical as well, automatically making the screen darker when sitting idle on a static image for some time.

[Crawl]

Originally posted by Tiberius:

If burn-in is a non issue, more and more oled manufacturers wouldv put a warranty against it.

All those anti burn-in features are just another marketing gimmick to lure the gullible customers.

You mean like the 2-3 year warranty that current OLEDs have that covers burn in?