RTX 5090 70% faster vs RTX 4090 ?!?

[Raoul]

750W cards incoming or are they just going to show us some slides of a very specific optimised use case in a single program?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5090-performance

Edit: 675W*

[Raoul]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von gamer:

What is the best GPU for power usage?

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/graphics-card-power-consumption-tested

Sadly hasn't been updated with RTX 4*** or RX 7*** yet. Would be nice if GamersNexus would do a mega chart like they have for CPU efficiency but for GPU too.

[Karumati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Raoul:

750W cards incoming or are they just going to show us some slides of a very specific optimised use case in a single program?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5090-performance

Edit: 675W*

675 sounds like dedicated water loop just for gpu

[lsdninja]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

675 sounds like dedicated water loop just for gpu

It wouldn't be the first time, heh

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Raoul:

If RTX 5060 can meet 4K Ultra at 60FPS then that would be a bigger deal for a lot of people if affordably priced.

in every game? Not even a 4090 does 4K 30fps in every game

[Raoul]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Raoul:

If RTX 5060 can meet 4K Ultra at 60FPS then that would be a bigger deal for a lot of people if affordably priced.

in every game? Not even a 4090 does 4K 30fps in every game

That's true, should've said not including ray tracing. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html was looking at toms site, they do outline the games tested.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Raoul:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von De Hollandse Ezel:

it is utterly useless if it's 750W
any card over 250W is utterly useless..

Ursprünglich geschrieben von De Hollandse Ezel:

with the 5xxx launch.. here is to hope that at least the 5080, 5080ti, 5080S, 5090 and 5090ti can run 4k at 100fps ultra settings. the 5070 is unlikely. 5070ti might.. barely..

that cut off point matters..

Would be 675W max possible 600W card and 75W PCIE but cooling would be a massive challenge.

If RTX 5060 can meet 4K Ultra at 60FPS then that would be a bigger deal for a lot of people if affordably priced.

I not care for 60fps..
I prefer 1440p 100fps over 4k 60fps
if not 4k 100fps there is no point upgrading.
and if that upgrade comes with to much watt.. I pass too.

[Karumati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lsdninja:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

675 sounds like dedicated water loop just for gpu

It wouldn't be the first time, heh

Yh, surely 420mm thick radiator will do the trick

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lsdninja:

It wouldn't be the first time, heh

Yh, surely 420mm thick radiator will do the trick

I already got that in my system but given the headaches -> it keeps breaking & hardly ANY shop will want to do repairs on a system.. even a simple motherboard swap will cost 1000 in labour..

never watercooling again!

[Karumati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von De Hollandse Ezel:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

Yh, surely 420mm thick radiator will do the trick

I already got that in my system but given the headaches -> it keeps breaking & hardly ANY shop will want to do repairs on a system.. even a simple motherboard swap will cost 1000 in labour..

never watercooling again!

Never had problems with my water loop, but i built it myself

[Kiryn]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Raoul:

If RTX 5060 can meet 4K Ultra at 60FPS then that would be a bigger deal for a lot of people if affordably priced.

And what will nVidia's idea of "reasonably priced" entry level card be for the next generation? $600?

[Raoul]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kiryn:

And what will nVidia's idea of "reasonably priced" entry level card be for the next generation? $600?

4060 was $300 so around that :P

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kiryn:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Raoul:

If RTX 5060 can meet 4K Ultra at 60FPS then that would be a bigger deal for a lot of people if affordably priced.

And what will nVidia's idea of "reasonably priced" entry level card be for the next generation? $600?

Probably $400.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Why do people follow rumors?

[De Hollandse Ezel]

a 5090 consuming 250W costing 1400 euro including 21% vat, and performing 10% above a 4090,

a 5580ti consuming 250W, costing 900 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4090


a 5080 consuming 200W, costing 650 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080super

a 5070 consuming 180W, costing 450 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080

a 5060 consuming 120W costing 250 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4070

a 5050 consuming 80W, costing 190 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4060


THATS the line up I want to see.,

explenation : each of these models used these amounts of watt historicly upto the 2xxx series.. so it corrects the powerdraw per model back to what it was for over 15 years.

it also correct the prices for each model back to what the historically were upto the 1xxx series.. for over a decade... before with the 2xxx series prices went insane...
ofcourse I have applied the normal inflation % between 2016 and 2024.. on top of that historic pricerange.


so with powerdraws like this.. and prices like this.. nvidea would be back to what they were doing from the 2xx series all the way to the 1xxx series.. when they did things right.

nvidea makes INSANE profits.. they not NEED these high prices... and they can also easely spend some more in getting that TDP down by applying better research in their chip designs. returning to more normal profitmargins as they used to do before crypto made them lazy in their designs and greedy in their pricings.

while a relative low progress in performance.. would not be nice.. with amd not planning to make any top models.. and lower pricing and powerdraw more an issue.. it be ok if performance would not increase that much..

dollar per performance & performance per watt would still massively improve.. which for now is more important to the market... than raw performance gain.

and yes these prices are totally feasable.. cost to make a 4090 for example.. just 450 euro.. not the chip.. an entire card.. ofcourse third faction cards might cost a bit more than the models nvidea makes themselves.. but can't be that much more..
price today in store : 2200 euro... those are ludicrus margins...


I like gaming.. I want them to make profit.. so they can put that into designing the next generaion.. but this much profit.. while quite frankly slacking in the research & design department.. thats not ok..
they may make a HEALTHY profit.. this.. is just insanity..

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von De Hollandse Ezel:

THATS the line up I want to see

Thank God you're not in charge of any Nvidia products