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Buying from a key reseller isn't illegal, nor are all key resellers "scammy". The link you provided earlier is specifically Microsoft targeting the "scammy" resellers who aren't legitimate resellers. There are many authorized key resellers and it is perfectly legal to purchase valid keys from them.
This I'd concur with, but your assumption that the only way to get a "fully legitimate Windows key" is by getting it directly from Microsoft is flawed.
the first build it the OG link, and I appreciate everyones input, me having ZERO pc building experiences i've been watching youtube videos, reading articles and obviously i wont have enough information from my own experiences to build a decent / good pc.
the monitor being kinda cheap is because i have nothing for a computer, i don't need the full 4k setup and being able to overclock kinda goes over my head, ive read a bit and watched a few videos about how people are overclocking (i guess) by reducing power input and decreasing internal temperatures.
im not horribly worried about being able to upgrade as soon as the next best thing comes out either. for reference the laptop im playing on / typing this is a 2013 i7 3060(3630?) with an nvidia 630m i think. its slow as ♥♥♥♥, can't run really anything, but being able to activate the FSR (amd?) and the DLSS (nvidia?) again is kind of above my comprehension, using ai to fill in the gaps of stuff and increase fps while maintaining the looks?
the windows 11 i did catch was a disc, i just slapped it in there so i wouldnt forget to buy it at a later date. i have now switched to a usb.
Tonepoet, ill look into the stuff you sent as well as the link to im assuming the prebuit after i finish this novel long reply.
i prefer wired keyboards and mice just because im tired of buying / charging batteries while im in the middle of a game lol idk how many times ive been in the middle of a dogfight in war thunder and my xbox controller dies and i crash or get shot down, so wired for me is big brain.
id like to be wired for internet as well and after looking more at the motherboards website that does have a wired LAN which should work for internet i believe, again very little pc gaming after D2 LOD lol
the whole RGB lights on the inside of my pc don't matter to me, if stuff is cheaper and better and it happens have lights, cool, if not im not upset at all id probably see if i could turn them off anyways.
for the power, the website said i was nowhere near 850, is it important to have well above what ill be using? ive read some stuff that says if your build is estimated say 600-625 you should get 650 PU. something about only having just enough power to keep everything going without being way above it? i guess the thought was more power going in effects longevity? again i have no idea.
as a final note : super fancy looking PC with lights and zero fan noise isn't really in my "must haves" id rather have a nice pc that i could game a some, not all of the new titles for a while you know? i mean ♥♥♥♥ i still load my disc of morrowind on this laptop. gameplay and enjoyment is my top priority for my first build, it doesnt have to be 4k, it could probably be 1080 and id be just happy.
as always thanks again everyone for the input youve given me a lot of new information to look at as well as researching the new parts that yall have sent out to me.
In your original build the 7700X is unlikely to make sense. For gaming definitely doesn't. And you certainly don't need X mobo. B650 or 650E has a nice palette. Also no paste needed, all good fans ship with it. And the 4k mointor is just buying trouble -- at 28" the 1440 is almost too much.
The 7700 gpu finally dropped the price, even if not all the way to 400 got a 12G model. . 7600xt 16G is also supposedly available for ~330 and 78--xt is best bang/buck is you can afford it. Though I'd think twice to go with a 2-fan model. The list shows asus tuf gaming at 509.
will you explain what you mean by 4k monitor is just buying trouble and 1440 @ 28" is too much?
2 fan for the gpu is not ideal? originally i had the full tower because i don't know what will fit where lol and the asus tuf gaming for 509 is better because of the 3rd fan?
The builds both Rumpelcrutchskin and I linked are essentially balancing things out more for around the budget of the build in your OP.
If your at the ~$2000 budget range then you will definitely be able to get something that is well balanced and does 1440p at above 60fps with high - ultra settings.
Don't worry about overclocking at all. With a Ryzen based system you can just install Ryzen Master and/or enable PBO in UEFI/BIOS and let the CPU boost/overclock itself based on power/thermals.
You don't need to get any extra thermal paste. Thermalright cooler should come with their TF-7 paste included and it is perfectly fine to use rather than spending more $ on other paste. On the topic of coolers, however, I would also consider looking at the Thermalright Phantom Spirit instead (which replaced the peerless assassin) or if you can swing it the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280. I haven't seen any benchmarks or cooling performance testing with the smaller peerless assassin 120 SE yet; but looks like it should be fine upto around 240W TDP.
And processing power is increased by a lot with every step, so if you have 4k, you need a capable gpu, like trx 4080 or more. Shelling out the $1000+ price on that and even more on all the components to deal with its power consumption and heat elimination.
The 7800xt is a high power card, and you need to remove the heat. The 2-fan model has less radiator surface and only 2 fans to do the same job so you will get way more noise at the same performance. And probably still run at higher temp too.
i appreciate all of the help, ive swapped the assassin cooler with the Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO 69 CFM CPU Cooler if not to save up for the artic. right now ill probably be buying these in batches so towards the end i might wait on the cooler and if i can swing it swap for the artic.
hopefully ill run into some of yall in a few games once i get this dude put together \m/
change 3, this is the most current build, switching the cooler, windows 11 to usb , removing the wired internet connection because the MB has one, changing the cpu cooler to asus tuf gaming 3 fan cooler
i havent put in poppins stuff into a separate build yet, but thatll happen at some point today so i can look at the differences side by side and research the differences
Getting a 4K display, regardless of the size, for a build without jumping up to an RTX 4080+ is going to be less than ideal as you'd largely have a better overall gaming experience at 1440p with a higher refresh rate with higher quality settings. Also, the price for a good 4K display jumps up quite a bit in comparison to a decent 1440p display like the MSI one Rumpelcrutchskin originally included.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x6pDFs
^ Here is another build I did from scratch; but I'd just swap the Asus RTX 4070 Super Dual with the RTX 4070 FE model in this build if you can get them at a local retail store where you live (e.g. BestBuy or Microcenter).
You also noted speakers in a prior reply, do you need actual speakers or would just getting a decent headset be fine? There are a few decent headsets in the $50 - $110 price range.
oh ok i see what youre saying about 4k.
ill be heading to bestbuy today but i live fairly in the middle of nowhere so all big towns are at least an hour away and is a trek just to check lol. i gotta snag my daughter some softball stuff so ill swing by bestbuy tonight and see what they have. talking with my wife im gonna spend around 500 a mo or so and piece it out.
i forgot about speakers in the change 3, i have a headset i use with my xbox controller, but ideally id like to get a small set of speakers just to have sound without the headset but those are back burner ideas.
Um, would've been nice if you mentioned this first. Maybe it's a bit too late to point this out, but I don't think that's a particularly good way of doing this. Save up your money first, then buy everything and build the system all at once.
Prices on tech depreciates fast, especially as newer hardware gets released, and by the time you get done collecting everything bit by bit over the months prices for existing hardware will have likely dropped and newer better stuff may be released.
If you plan on parting things be better for you in particular if you get a Ryzen 8700g A.P.U. It's not as strong a performer as the 7800x3D, but it's a little cheaper and pretty close, and it has fairly strong integrated graphics that will make your system decently usable until you save up money for a proper dedicated card.
Later this year we're going to see Intel Arc Battlemage and rumors have it that the RTX 5090 is coming too, which will roll in a new generation of graphics card if true.
Also, if Best Buy is the only place you can buy stuff, then you have to buy stuff they have avaiable at their prices which changes the dynamic over ordering stuff online for the best discount, unless you can persuade them to price match.
with that said:
- that mouse is not good. opt for cooler master 712. it's decent mouse for the price
- you can save somewhat on the case. fractal design meshify c is good
- buy a good 1000W psu. that way it will last you for whenever you want to upgrade next
- the monitor you opted for is bad. imo don't skimp on this and a get decent 1440p high refresh. there are some good options
with that said why do you need a 7700x and x670e? you could opt for am4 and save a lot in the process. the 5800x3d is around the same price but motherboard and memory are cheaper.
in regards to gpu, I would suggest you wait a bit. both nvidia and amd are going to release their new cards this year.