Display Card & Bios Woes (1070 in a AM3+ mobo wont display)

[PlatinumSun]

I know the 1070 works as its from a friend and has been used it before. The CPU (FX-8350) works, machine posts, fans spin. Everything spins. Brand new top of the line monitor is in working order.

So I put the machine together, it posts, peripherals light up, power button works, fan control button works (old case eh), reset button works. However for the life of me I can not get display. Despite the fact the GTX1070FE has its LED light up and the fan spins. No weird smells.

Anyways I tried every fitting PCIE slot and all 3 display ports and the HDMI port. (Not the DVI as I have no cable)

Windows is not installed, I just have an empty SSD hooked up.

So second time I power it up I noticed peripherals don't light up, and the reset button doesn't work. I am very confused.


https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-990XA-UD3-rev-1x#ov

GA-990XA-UD3-rev-1.1 with an FX-8350

https://download1.gigabyte.com/Files/Manual/mb_manual_ga-990xa-ud3_e.pdf


So I think the issue has something to do with UEFI vs legacy bios.

However the MOBO lacks a display port.

Would resseting the CMOS works?

This board is from 2011.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Цитата допису _I_:

Цитата допису WOKEISM (banned 14 times):

You're not supposed to disable cool n quiet. You lose efficiency and gain nothing by doing so.

other way around
c&q allows it to underclock when near idle
those clock all cores evenly, not like newer cpus that can clock them individually

if a game is not using all cores, c&q can it can make it throttle since its not at full load

None of what you said is a problem in any way and is exactly how it's designed. This is why I said don't disable it. If you disable it, you're disabling part of your CPU that you paid for. That doesn't make any sense, especially when nothing is gained.

[PlatinumSun]

Цитата допису WOKEISM (banned 14 times):

My 1070 needed this firmware update in order to view my bios via display port:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/

Maybe it's related to what you're experiencing. Updating the motherboard bios might prove to be beneficial also.

Bios is already new as it can be (2014 kek)

Also this driver thing here mentioned EUFI which I don't have. For some reason gigabyte elected to make two lines of this motherboard which are close to identical, except one has access to UEFI (FXA - black) (XA - Blue)

Anyways I moved to this since I started a new topic more or less:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4298193819414632061/?tscn=1709248586

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Цитата допису smallcat:

Sorry , i dont want to spoil the party .i m glad you got the help you looked for . But want to bring in some common sense . FX 8350 has no future and is so slow compared to modern processors . I understand that one cannot always afford everything but for me its not worth the hassle .wish you luck.

You hear that OPer? You better run and hide your PC before it explodes or has a meltdown. Those pesky fx CPUs can't do anything at all (sarcasm)

This is coming from someone that bought the rtx 4060 and here he is taking about "no future" LMAO!

[lsdninja]

Цитата допису smallcat:

fx 8350 supports only pci-e 2.0

That's largely because, even though AMD issued newer south bridges that sort of kept up with newer developments (USB3.0 was notably absent), the north bridge architecture stayed rooted in its 2007 origins as the 700-series. Even more hilarious is that AMD made PCIe 3.0 compatible GPUs *and* gave the low end trash APUs PCIe 3.0 and USB3 support.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

But it does work. And it works fine on Win10 and 11.
You simply install the Chipset Drivers by using the AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver Package; it has all those older chipset drivers included.

FX8350 plays pretty much any game out there. What it won't do well is really CPU intensive titles; such as games that need a really strong CPU; such as Total War: Warhammer series and games like that. City Skylines, Planet Coaster...

I've tested with games like RDR2, Control, CyberPunk 2077, Detroit: Beyond Human...

It plays them all properly and well enough; so does my other old PC, 4790K

I even have tried my 3080 Ti along side FX8350, just for testing purposes; in both my ASUS 890 AM3+ board and my ASUS Sabertooth 990FX Rev2 and it did very well, surprisingly good in-fact.

What I have had running in the FX8350 and 4790K as the every-day GPU though is a 1080 Ti; since I've sold off all of my older GPUs. While these CPUs both would hold back a GPU such as 3080 or 3080 Ti, of course... the GPU still functions perfectly fine on both of those ancient AMD motherboard believe it or not.

So hey, if you got one of those setups and both the CPU and Motherboard works well, more power to you. It's not as bad as people says it is.

Now what I have not tried (since I no longer have any on-hand) is newer AMD GPUs on such old boards w/ PCIE 2.0. For many of those I doubt they would even work. And probably the same for RTX 40 series as well, but don't quite me on that.

[PlatinumSun]

Цитата допису WOKEISM (banned 14 times):

Цитата допису smallcat:

Sorry , i dont want to spoil the party .i m glad you got the help you looked for . But want to bring in some common sense . FX 8350 has no future and is so slow compared to modern processors . I understand that one cannot always afford everything but for me its not worth the hassle .wish you luck.

You hear that OPer? You better run and hide your PC before it explodes or has a meltdown. Those pesky fx CPUs can't do anything at all (sarcasm)

This is coming from someone that bought the rtx 4060 and here he is taking about "no future" LMAO!

Rtx 4060 is fine. I mean look mate. The 1000's were an enigma for how long they lasted and how long anyone will need to upgrade with one of them. If you have a 1080 ti you still don't need to upgrade unless you really want to use highest resolution 4k textures and game devs basically optimize a whole hell of alot less now do to the fact new higher end GPU's have a crazy amount of VRAM.

But a 3000 or a 4000 thousand is a perfectly fine jump from 1000. No reason to be rude mate.

I myself am trying to hunt down a board with re-sizeable bar mobo for a 4690k I have or the 8350. I would be overjoyed to find a way to run an ARC card with an 8350 or 8370.

As I know there are some 3rd and 4th gen mobos that happened to have resizeable bar a I found a guy on I think LTT with a 37xxk asking about a 3060ti he bought.

See the trouble is actually searching for mobos with resizeable bar. Not too hard to find server ones with it but obviously its less fun than using a normal processor.

[PlatinumSun]

Цитата допису lsdninja:

Цитата допису smallcat:

fx 8350 supports only pci-e 2.0

That's largely because, even though AMD issued newer south bridges that sort of kept up with newer developments (USB3.0 was notably absent), the north bridge architecture stayed rooted in its 2007 origins as the 700-series. Even more hilarious is that AMD made PCIe 3.0 compatible GPUs *and* gave the low end trash APUs PCIe 3.0 and USB3 support.

700 series? I have a 990 chipset, I am pretty sure there are PCIe 3 mobo's for an 8350 though. If not even with RB I would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥, something tells me an ARC would not appreciate a PCIE2. Even if I would just want to see playable TF2 or CSGO framerates to consider things a success.

[PlatinumSun]

Цитата допису smallcat:

Sorry , i dont want to spoil the party .i m glad you got the help you looked for . But want to bring in some common sense . FX 8350 has no future and is so slow compared to modern processors . I understand that one cannot always afford everything but for me its not worth the hassle .wish you luck.

Don't worry I am keeping this PC as a server in Atlantic Canada. I will be using new hardware once I move out west and then running this as a headless server. I do have my ARC-770 with me out here though and would't mind trying to track down a way to do something cursed with it using a Chinese motherboard or something. Becasue REBAR came about in like 2007 no?

EDIT: Yah your right no PCIE3 with the FX CPU's shame. Hmm 2600 would be funny as I have one of those to. I have alot of old hardware.

EDIT 2:

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/resizable-bar-working-on-intels-3rd-gen-ivy-bridge-from-2012.445040/page-2

Sorry it was a 3dguru forum post not LTT.

[lsdninja]

Цитата допису A. X. Ґриесбач:

700 series? I have a 990 chipset, I am pretty sure there are PCIe 3 mobo's for an 8350 though. If not even with RB I would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥, something tells me an ARC would not appreciate a PCIE2. Even if I would just want to see playable TF2 or CSGO framerates to consider things a success.

What I mean is that the 990FX is basically the same as the 790FX with only the south bridge chips getting upgraded. I believe there was a motherboard, ASRock made it I think, that used a PLX chip to provide PCIe 3.0 slots, but you still only had a PCIe 2.0 connection to the north bridge.

edit: just looked it up and it’s actually the Asus Sabertooth 990FX Gen3 R2.0

[Iron Knights]

Just for support, still gaming on an Asus Sabertooth 990FX & an AMD FX-8370.
Ran Cybershrek 2077 on two characters, worked in Windows 7 with DX-12 too, before CD Projekt Wreck updated it so it won't. Runs No Man's Sky, as unoptimized a game as that one happens to be. Witcher 3 on high settings and more.
The Pesky AMD is sitting in intel's neck, so much so they paid MS to change HW requirements in Win 11 to take out the FX Series. Cheapest, best single core STOCK speed till literally last 4 years.

[lsdninja]

lol, even AMD themselves would be happy to bury FX at this point.

Also, they never backported the complete set of scheduler fixes to Windows 7 so you’re leaving performance (and it’s FX, it needs all the help it can get) on the table by not runn8ng at least Win 8…

[PlatinumSun]

Цитата допису lsdninja:

Цитата допису A. X. Ґриесбач:

700 series? I have a 990 chipset, I am pretty sure there are PCIe 3 mobo's for an 8350 though. If not even with RB I would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥, something tells me an ARC would not appreciate a PCIE2. Even if I would just want to see playable TF2 or CSGO framerates to consider things a success.

What I mean is that the 990FX is basically the same as the 790FX with only the south bridge chips getting upgraded. I believe there was a motherboard, ASRock made it I think, that used a PLX chip to provide PCIe 3.0 slots, but you still only had a PCIe 2.0 connection to the north bridge.

edit: just looked it up and it’s actually the Asus Sabertooth 990FX Gen3 R2.0

Funky

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Цитата допису Iron Knights:

Just for support, still gaming on an Asus Sabertooth 990FX & an AMD FX-8370.
Ran Cybershrek 2077 on two characters, worked in Windows 7 with DX-12 too, before CD Projekt Wreck updated it so it won't. Runs No Man's Sky, as unoptimized a game as that one happens to be. Witcher 3 on high settings and more.
The Pesky AMD is sitting in intel's neck, so much so they paid MS to change HW requirements in Win 11 to take out the FX Series. Cheapest, best single core STOCK speed till literally last 4 years.

Win10/11 works without any problems on FX CPUs.

Boards like the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX have full UEFI options; where as old 880/890 boards do not as they all pre-date when UEFI came out, which started with Intel Skylake.

However even on my old ASUS 890 Motherboard w/ 8350 have had no problems running latest version of Win10 or 11. For 11 I just had to use the Rufus method.

Once OS is installed I use the latest AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver Package and it does install all the proper drivers for those older chipsets and the SATA AHCI and such.

They actually perform better on Win10/11 then they ever did on Win7/8

[PlatinumSun]

Цитата допису Bad 💀 Motha:

Цитата допису Iron Knights:

Just for support, still gaming on an Asus Sabertooth 990FX & an AMD FX-8370.
Ran Cybershrek 2077 on two characters, worked in Windows 7 with DX-12 too, before CD Projekt Wreck updated it so it won't. Runs No Man's Sky, as unoptimized a game as that one happens to be. Witcher 3 on high settings and more.
The Pesky AMD is sitting in intel's neck, so much so they paid MS to change HW requirements in Win 11 to take out the FX Series. Cheapest, best single core STOCK speed till literally last 4 years.

Win10/11 works without any problems on FX CPUs.

Boards like the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX have full UEFI options; where as old 880/890 boards do not as they all pre-date when UEFI came out, which started with Intel Skylake.

However even on my old ASUS 890 Motherboard w/ 8350 have had no problems running latest version of Win10 or 11. For 11 I just had to use the Rufus method.

Once OS is installed I use the latest AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver Package and it does install all the proper drivers for those older chipsets and the SATA AHCI and such.

They actually perform better on Win10/11 then they ever did on Win7/8

Actually I have a 990 without UEFI D:

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Цитата допису A. X. Ґриесбач:

Цитата допису Bad 💀 Motha:

Win10/11 works without any problems on FX CPUs.

Boards like the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX have full UEFI options; where as old 880/890 boards do not as they all pre-date when UEFI came out, which started with Intel Skylake.

However even on my old ASUS 890 Motherboard w/ 8350 have had no problems running latest version of Win10 or 11. For 11 I just had to use the Rufus method.

Once OS is installed I use the latest AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver Package and it does install all the proper drivers for those older chipsets and the SATA AHCI and such.

They actually perform better on Win10/11 then they ever did on Win7/8

Actually I have a 990 without UEFI D:

Model name of the Motherboard?