River 11 fev. 2024 às 21:42
Anyone went strictly to SSDs only yet ?
Is it worth doing?

I feel like I am missing out by not.

Just tried SSD to SSD and even SSD or portable SSD.

The speed is incredible compared to Hard Drive 7200 rpm to SSD.



Only normal hard drives 7200 rpm I have right now are my 2 data drives. One 4 TB SATA 7200 rpm for primary data and the other portable 4 TB Hard Drive for backup of it.

Everything else is a NVMe SSD.
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Bing Chilling 12 fev. 2024 às 14:32 
i still have a 1tb HDD in my pc and a 500gb HDD that isn't in use

then 3 SSD's. One 1tb,and two 500gb

The HDD is for older games(2015 and before) file back ups, pictures, downloads etc.
then the SSD's are for new games,windows and programs

I could use with another 1tb SSD (probably gonna get a NVME drive )
but i'm pretty good with 3tb total space.
nullable 12 fev. 2024 às 15:18 
Originalmente postado por smallcat:
i have 2TB WD . My Windows 10 stareted up in 25s and i was pleased . Why should i throw away this hdd ?

You're free to use whatever hardware you want. But regardless of how you feel about your HDD, SSDs are just better where performance is concerned. If that doesn't matter to you, that's fine. But it does objectively matter for everyone else where disk performance is a concern.

Also, fyi, Windows boot time isn't the only thing SSDs impact. Program load times aren't the only things SSDs impact.
Electric Cupcake 12 fev. 2024 às 15:26 
I don't think the Framework 16 preorder I made has any magnetic platters. I might have overdone it with the onboard storage and USB/SD modules, though.

I will NEVER accept commercial cloud storage.
Lord Flashheart 12 fev. 2024 às 15:46 
Originalmente postado por gamer:
Is it worth doing?

I feel like I am missing out by not.

Just tried SSD to SSD and even SSD or portable SSD.

The speed is incredible compared to Hard Drive 7200 rpm to SSD.



Only normal hard drives 7200 rpm I have right now are my 2 data drives. One 4 TB SATA 7200 rpm for primary data and the other portable 4 TB Hard Drive for backup of it.

Everything else is a NVMe SSD.

Not yet.
In the main machine - windows/linux are nvme & 1 sata SSD.

There are a bunch drives in my other machine - server/NAS. External drives for backups are all hard drives.
When price parity hits with 8TB sata SSDs & hard drives, then maybe switch over. It depends on the SSD quality.

The cheapest high capacity SSDs have major flaws. It is mainly that they use QLC flsh (4 bits/cell). It has bad longevity. Also write speeds go lower than hard drives when the slc cache fills up.

It is really about the right tool for the job.
Última alteração por Lord Flashheart; 12 fev. 2024 às 16:09
Electric Cupcake 12 fev. 2024 às 16:04 
Originalmente postado por smallcat:
i know the future is of the SSDs but there re still hdd s with speed of 250GB/s . If defragged and if are cheap , why not ?

Hardware is never truly obsolete. Old parts can always find a place in a DIY NAS or beowulf cluster, or donated to be refurbished and used by enthusiasts or low income communities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q64ILEMgE34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0JIOqjsfnE
Última alteração por Electric Cupcake; 12 fev. 2024 às 16:05
r.linder 12 fev. 2024 às 16:05 
Because even SATA SSDs are 550-600 MB/s and PCI-e is up to several times faster?

SATA SSDs still had value when PCI-e bandwidth was more costly, now it isn’t, so SATA drives in general are starting to become pointless aside from high capacity drives. There’s really no excuse for not running an OS off of an SSD, just excuses and cope.
Bad 💀 Motha 12 fev. 2024 às 16:17 
Originalmente postado por smallcat:
i know the future is of the SSDs but there re still hdd s with speed of 250GB/s . If defragged and if are cheap , why not ?

It doesn't matter much because even if a HDD could pull the full speed SATA allowed, they'd still be dirt slow because of their low IOPS. That tech spec along with having DRAM cache is more important then glamorous read/write speeds alone.
Wampum Biskit 12 fev. 2024 às 16:49 
Originalmente postado por smallcat:
i have 2TB WD . My Windows 10 stareted up in 25s and i was pleased . Why should i throw away this hdd ?

you have a pretty new account , so i'm going to guess you haven't played enough games yet , a lot of newer games and games slated to come out really play a lot better from a ssd , there are games that won't even play good on a mechanical drive.

Some time down the road you will see more and more games that need an SSD drive to just be playable.
HypersleepyNaputunia 12 fev. 2024 às 19:14 
i prefer the hdd idk
10 dollars a tb is pretty impressive to me at least
rawWwRrr 12 fev. 2024 às 19:54 
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
Did it years ago.

Only HDDs I've been using are all in my NAS; 4x 12TB

If you "need" like 8TB or more in a single drive in a PC, you might have a mental problem of some sort.

[...]

You shouldn't need 20-30+ TB worth of stuff on a single PC via internal storage.
Here comes cray cray...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3159734791
I had a goal.
Karumati 12 fev. 2024 às 19:57 
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
Did it years ago.

Only HDDs I've been using are all in my NAS; 4x 12TB

If you "need" like 8TB or more in a single drive in a PC, you might have a mental problem of some sort.

2TB and 4TB SSDs are cheap enough nowa days when on-sale. Couple of those in each PC and you should be good to go.

If you don't want or like NAS, you can always go buy an external SSD or HDD and use that when need to back up something or overload some stuff off your SSDs.

You shouldn't need 20-30+ TB worth of stuff on a single PC via internal storage.

Black Friday / Cyber Week would have been the best time to scoop up 4 TB SSDs.

2 of my PCs have an 8TB SSD. Only because I was able to get those at a decent discount. Otherwise there just is no way...
I have 16tb hdd for anime and movies
Sigma957 12 fev. 2024 às 22:26 
Originalmente postado por Wynters:
Originalmente postado por sebo:
I haven't had a traditional HDD in my system since 2019. that is about the time i transitioned to SSD only and haven't looked back. HDDs are obsolete in my eyes except for long term storage.

Prices have been pretty affordable. Even worth considering going from SSD to NVMe SSDs. I recently posted a thread on this here. over the holidays, i bought a couple 4TB WB Black NVMe for $230. insanely fast and definitely worth it.. prices seem to be pretty good and trending down into the future.
$230 is NOT affordable when you can get a 7200RPM, 12TB HDD for $80.

At will employment...

Oh yay a drive with multiple platters just waiting to fail. Quality over quantity, that's where people make the mistake.
Última alteração por Sigma957; 12 fev. 2024 às 22:28
Bad 💀 Motha 12 fev. 2024 às 23:20 
Originalmente postado por rawWwRrr:
Originalmente postado por Bad 💀 Motha:
Did it years ago.

Only HDDs I've been using are all in my NAS; 4x 12TB

If you "need" like 8TB or more in a single drive in a PC, you might have a mental problem of some sort.

[...]

You shouldn't need 20-30+ TB worth of stuff on a single PC via internal storage.
Here comes cray cray...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3159734791
I had a goal.


What I meant was, does a single PC, especially for which you probably have no backups for data-wise, really need internal storage holding so many TB of data? I mean seriously, for what. You're going to cry when the drive just up and dies one day and you lose everything.

Now if you have NAS, or Externals and make multiple backups; good on you.

But yea my NAS is about to be replaced, it was 4x 8TB WD Gold and I replaced them because before the 4x8TB got old I sold and replaced the drives. Now 4x12TB just isn't enough and 20TB are getting cheap.

But having tons of internal HDDs in a single PC, which probably aren't very reliable to begin with, going through 1000 of power cycles over the life of that PC; yea not a good idea.
Sigma957 13 fev. 2024 às 23:39 
My SSDs mostly just house games. One uses software programs for non-gaming. One houses the OS and not much else.
Dutchgamer1982 14 fev. 2024 às 2:19 
my pc from 2016 had than 2x4tb 7200rpm hd and 1x1tb ssd (a sata600 ssd as m.2 back than did not come larger than 512mb)

as such its a ssd running at 590mbit and not the 2500+ mbit the first gen m.2 models did let alone the current ones reach.

400 euro for the 1tb sata600 sdd
150 euro each for the 4tb hd's

i have since added a 4tb m.2 and replaced the hds for 2x10tb ones.

350 euro gor the 4tb m.2
200 euro each for the 10tb hd

the old 1tb ssd I since taken out and I use as external storage

the old 4tb hds now lay unused in the box with spare parts.

a future build (likely next year) will meam I get a motherboard with more than just 1m.2 slot at which point I might skip any sata drives.

current board just has the 1 m.2 slot and i want 2 mirrored backup drives.

size of m.2 also is gradually increasing.. 4tb m.2 are now priced as 512mb m.2 or 1tb ssd were 8 years ago..

a decently priced 16tb m.2 (say under 1000 euro) would remove all need for sata in future.
Última alteração por Dutchgamer1982; 14 fev. 2024 às 2:28
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