Is it okay now to upgrade to Windows 11 from Windows 10, specifically for gaming ?

[yeeyoh]

Hello,
When windows 11 was first released there was a lot of talk about how windows 10 was better for gaming. The consensus seemed to be that staying with windows 10 offered about 10% more FPS and better overall performance. Now that it has been I while a was wondering if that was still the same or has windows 11 caught up to, and maybe even surpassed windows 10 with gaming ?
Thanks for any thoughts/help on this topic.

[plat]

Rufus is still a very relevant little software. I used it once a few years ago, it's an effective but not esp. friendly little thing for new users. There are plenty of good use guides though.

For those who don't know, you can use Rufus to bypass the hardware requirements of Windows 11 as well as format your plug in drive.

Yeah, I don't call moving to 11 an "upgrade" either. It's something to install besides Windows 10, I'll give it that.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

While I know how the MS MCT works and I used it from time to time for testing purposes, Rufus has always been the better go-to tool for making bootable usb with an ISO. There are some better tools if you need to create a bootable usb drive with multiple ISOs and perhaps other options available once the drive boots and such but for ease of use while giving you options, Rufus is great small footprint tool to use. Especially if you are wanting to create bootable WinOS or Linux and need to specify that it be made bootable on Legacy BIOS vs UEFI.

Typically if you go and make a Win10/11 boot usb media using MS MCT (Media Creation Tool) using a modern UEFI based PC, the drive won't be bootable on systems with a Legacy non-UEFI BIOS.

Rufus allows you to customize that option and then once you're done using it you can easily wipe out the usb drive and redone it for UEFI systems if need be, or vice-versa.

[humboldt]

Publicado originalmente por plat:

Rufus is still a very relevant little software. I used it once a few years ago, it's an effective but not esp. friendly little thing for new users. There are plenty of good use guides though.

For those who don't know, you can use Rufus to bypass the hardware requirements of Windows 11 as well as format your plug in drive.

Yeah, I don't call moving to 11 an "upgrade" either. It's something to install besides Windows 10, I'll give it that.

i like the use of mutliple soundcards in windows 11 so very much, because i need this feature to setup my computer for making music with it, it has become very easy to do this setup with windows 11. i call this a very good upgrade in my case. its more complicated with windows 10. all i want to say.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Publicado originalmente por secret_agent_man:

Publicado originalmente por plat:

Rufus is still a very relevant little software. I used it once a few years ago, it's an effective but not esp. friendly little thing for new users. There are plenty of good use guides though.

For those who don't know, you can use Rufus to bypass the hardware requirements of Windows 11 as well as format your plug in drive.

Yeah, I don't call moving to 11 an "upgrade" either. It's something to install besides Windows 10, I'll give it that.

i like the use of mutliple soundcards in windows 11 so very much, because i need this feature to setup my computer for making music with it and it has become very easy to do this setup with windows 11. i call this a very good upgrade in my case. its more complicated with windows 10. all i want to say.

Care to elaborate?

The only difference I noticed really is that in Win11, let's say I often play media using VLC Media Player, or perhaps a DVD/BR playback app. Once that app is running I could easily go into the OS Audio Settings and click an option for it remember the output for a specific app, such as media playback via a Laptop with an HDMI Display or Audio Receiver plugged in. With this remember option it will know I want that audio software to always output via HDMI instead of the Laptop Speakers.

That's about all I really found useful. Maybe I wasn't digging deep enough?

Win10 has DirectStorage now and overall this OS is very stable.

Win11 is stable one day and f'd up the next day. I'm tired of that BS. And yes Win8 and 10 were also that way, in the early stages. From my experiences Win11 is still in the Beta stages from the looks of it. And sometimes what I see wrong is not always MS fault but I see many issues myself and many people who have issues with Games and such on Win11 that we don't see those issues on Win10

[plat]

Publicado originalmente por secret_agent_man:

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i like the use of mutliple soundcards in windows 11 so very much, because i need this feature to setup my computer for making music with it and it has become very easy to do this setup with windows 11. i call this a very good upgrade in my case. its more complicated with windows 10. all i want to say.

Yes, that sounds like a very nice upgrade for your purposes.

I didn't mean to make it sound like my above statement is a blanket one-- that wasn't the intention and I apologize for that. Instead, I have a strong bias against Microsoft itself for the capricious way it introduced Windows 11 and its requirements and the upset and frustration it caused, as well as the uptick in e-waste.

[L.o.D.]

Publicado originalmente por r.linder:

Rufus is an old program that can make bootable media, it's been used to install Windows for years and has seen a lot more use these days to bypass Windows 11 requirements

Ok, done and done. I used the default settings but changed one thing I think.

[yeeyoh]

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

The only difference I noticed really is that in Win11, let's say I often play media using VLC Media Player, or perhaps a DVD/BR playback app. Once that app is running I could easily go into the OS Audio Settings and click an option for it remember the output for a specific app, such as media playback via a Laptop with an HDMI Display or Audio Receiver plugged in. With this remember option it will know I want that audio software to always output via HDMI instead of the Laptop Speakers.

Is there any chance I could get a bit more detail on how to do that? I think it would be great if I got windows (11) to shift over to a USB DAC (automatically) for sound when I used foobar2000 or Deezer and back to motherboard audio for gaming etc.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just have the apps opened already then switch to the Windows Audio Settings. The speaker down in notification bar.

It will have options where it shows the full list of volumes and alike that a certain app could be selected to remember for a certain audio output. This will be helpful so just opening an app you've done this for before the OS will know to force that app to output audio to certain device

[yeeyoh]

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Just have the apps opened already then switch to the Windows Audio Settings. The speaker down in notification bar.

It will have options where it shows the full list of volumes and alike that a certain app could be selected to remember for a certain audio output. This will be helpful so just opening an app you've done this for before the OS will know to force that app to output audio to certain device

Okay I found it (System >Sound >Volume mixer) thanks a lot for this tip, it is going to come in handy.

[Crashed]

What are you currently running for hardware?

[yeeyoh]

Publicado originalmente por smallcat:

Clean install is quite preferable ! i did an upgrade .There were a lot of hiccups -- update failed due to insufficient free space on C: , Security Center was broken , Edge remained resident despite the right settings . I did a reset . It did miracles - everything works perfect .Used the option - keeping my own files and cloud download . It s improved over Win 10 . Win 11 load time is longer than of Win 10 though . The memory usage is similar .

I am going to have to do that. I'm running in to the update problem now, and the C: drive is reporting space taken up by a couple of games that are on the E: drive.

[L.o.D.]

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Can go online and buy a Windows 10 or 11 PRO product key for around $20 or so.

So I got the system up and running win11, just need a key. So where's a safe legit place to get one that only costs $20?

[Chronocide]

Publicado originalmente por yeeyoh:

Hello,
When windows 11 was first released there was a lot of talk about how windows 10 was better for gaming. The consensus seemed to be that staying with windows 10 offered about 10% more FPS and better overall performance. Now that it has been I while a was wondering if that was still the same or has windows 11 caught up to, and maybe even surpassed windows 10 with gaming ?
Thanks for any thoughts/help on this topic. :claptrap:

Ram is the big thing as I understand it. 11 requires more ram to run windows.

So if you already have issues where it feels like you don't have enough ram...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Publicado originalmente por Chronocide:

Publicado originalmente por yeeyoh:

Hello,
When windows 11 was first released there was a lot of talk about how windows 10 was better for gaming. The consensus seemed to be that staying with windows 10 offered about 10% more FPS and better overall performance. Now that it has been I while a was wondering if that was still the same or has windows 11 caught up to, and maybe even surpassed windows 10 with gaming ?
Thanks for any thoughts/help on this topic. :claptrap:

Ram is the big thing as I understand it. 11 requires more ram to run windows.

So if you already have issues where it feels like you don't have enough ram...

Compared to what?

As long as you have 8GB or more, you're fine.

However for a more hefty work PC or for Gaming; 16GB is really the bare minimum; whether it be Win10 or 11. Win11 in general does not use anymore RAM then Win10 does.

It may seem like Win10/11 uses alot more RAM then Win7/8, but it does not. The difference are what comes enabled in these OS by default; stuff that on a Gaming PC you would generally turn off and/or disable since not needed, which when done, will save on overall OS RAM usage.

Publicado originalmente por L.o.D.:

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Can go online and buy a Windows 10 or 11 PRO product key for around $20 or so.

So I got the system up and running win11, just need a key. So where's a safe legit place to get one that only costs $20?

I put the links in my profile comments. Since they would be rejected in here anyways.

[L.o.D.]

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

I put the links in my profile comments. Since they would be rejected in here anyways.

I had found the one link already, but how safe is it? The king?