AMD is the most pathetic thing on the market

[Conquest]

adrenaline doesnt work or even open, im freezing every 30 mins its just a completely horrible experiecne compared to my last nvidia. no wonder this amd garbage was so cheap! it can barely handle elden ring! wow!

[Trollhammer]

Of course you ran a DDU and disabled the drivers update from Windows settings before installing Adrenalin ?

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Trollhammer:

Of course you ran a DDU and disabled the drivers update from Windows settings before installing Adrenalin ?

This plus making sure that all motherboard/chipset drivers are up do date and not generic windows ones.

[Illusion of Progress]

Information in, information out. Your description is as broad and lacking as it comes so there's nothing to work with here, so this comes off as a mere rant.

I had issues with my recent move to AMD but it certainly wasn't with Adrenalin itself. That was actually the best part of the change for me. My issue was a bad individual part. Replaced it and it's been fine so far.

What is freezing every 30 minutes? The game? The whole PC? And is this actually a freeze or something else (like crashes/restarting)? Again, no information to go on here.

If the hardware you chose can't handle Elden Ring, I imagine it's doubtful a similar cost nVidia would do much better, since you know... you're admitting AMD is cheaper. So that sounds like another problem entirely, which would be "you're not buying powerful enough for what you want to accomplish", no?

I'm guessing the point is just to rant though, not seek solutions?

[Crawl]

Originally posted by Trollhammer:

Of course you ran a DDU and disabled the drivers update from Windows settings before installing Adrenalin ?

To be fair if you have to rely on 3rd party software i.e. DDU and jump through hoops the typical user isn't going to be aware of then there might be a problem. I don't know if the blame should be on AMD or Microsoft but Nvidia does't have those stupid issues with Windows Update. I think AMD has done some great things in the PC space, their CPUs are great, the fact that bios flashback is a standard feature on AMD boards now (take notes Intel), etc. but I would never even consider an AMD gpu.

[Zef]

Nice try Jensen still not buying your crap again.

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by Crawl:

To be fair if you have to rely on 3rd party software i.e. DDU and jump through hoops the typical user isn't going to be aware of then there might be a problem. I don't know if the blame should be on AMD or Microsoft but Nvidia does't have those stupid issues with Windows Update. I think AMD has done some great things in the PC space, their CPUs are great, the fact that bios flashback is a standard feature on AMD boards now (take notes Intel), etc. but I would never even consider an AMD gpu.

DDU isn't something exclusive when going to AMD. It's just a "standard procedure" a lot of people choose to do in order to be thorough with driver cleaning regardless or where they are starting or going.

The issue with "AMD being updated" is one I recently went through and here's what I found from it.

It is definitely Windows, because Windows itself was logging in both Event Viewer and Windows Update history that Windows Update was doing the change. It wasn't Adrenalin updating itself.

Setting Windows Update to not update my devices? No effect. I imagine the reason is it's updating Adrenalin and not the actual drivers (control panel version changes and gets an "AIB" string added but the drivers stayed) so as far as Windows probably thinks, Adrenalin isn't a device so this setting gets ignored for updating this. But it's still Windows Update pushing it and yet Windows Update has no setting or easy way to change this on the surface, so it's a constant annoyance regardless.

Registry modifications/group policy stuff? No effect either (unless the ones I tried were wrong but I tried two different ones).

I didn't try fully pausing updates but that's not going to ultimately solve the issue either, just delay it.

What actually stopped it was when I used the driver rollback feature in device manager. Never would have suspected this because I prefer to just manage it myself by unstalling things I don't want and installing the versions I do, but it seems using this step has Windows set a flag to stop updating the particular thing you roll back. Worst part about it? Microsoft actually makes you choose a reason why you are doing this and submit it to them before you can proceed (like a literal nanny), and then it rolls it back and will leave it alone.

No idea why it happens with Adrenalin or where the fault ultimately lays but it's definitely Windows Update pushing the changes through and not Adrenalin updating itself.

To be fair I had Windows update my nVidia drivers last year too so it's not exclusive to AMD (nVidia had that security issue early last year which I think was why because it seemed to be a one off), and it didn't just change the control panel but the whole driver version in that case, where AMD is only having Adrenalin changed. Worse, it did it while I was playing a game which is wonderful (partly my fault because I had "prefer maximum performance" set and League of Legends is probably such a low load in that state that Windows thought it was idle, but still).

This is a modern Windows "feature" more than anything else. But yes it's definitely biting AMD/Adrenalin more for whatever reason and in the end, consumers lose out here.

All that being said, this didn't actually cause me any stability issues. It of course wasn't desirable because the version Adrenalin changed to lacked some features I was wanting to use (recording), but it "worked". No odd issues with games, no issues with Adrenalin working, no error messages at each startup about a version mismatch, so OP's issues probably run deeper than just Windows Update changing their stuff.

[Sigma957]

OP doesn't know how to use software, telling.

[r.linder]

The fact that they haven't said anything in response to anyone yet probably means either they're really busy or it was a troll post all along

[xSOSxHawkens]

OP is either ignorant or a troll. Either way its not AMD's issue or AMD's fault and the OP needs to change the Post Title and quit spreading FUD.

[A&A]

Sometimes the drivers can be bad, but that doesn't mean you can't use the previous really stable ones or fix the cause of the problem.

[_I_]

windows generic drivers are bad, but they work for most hardware

always download the correct ones and disable windows driver updates

[Haruspex]

Most likely user error.

Edit: You mentioned that it was "cheap". I wonder if you bought some Wish fake card or something. That would explain a lot. There are 3 all AMD desktops and 1 AMD laptop in my house, and they're all great.

[mtono]

i would reinstall windows.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

AMD Adrenaline is known to cause issues. One must treat AMD GPU's like that of Apple OS and basically both companies tell users not to update. Frankly, AMD drivers which are stable and show no signs of fault, should not be updated .

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Crawl:

Originally posted by Trollhammer:

Of course you ran a DDU and disabled the drivers update from Windows settings before installing Adrenalin ?

To be fair if you have to rely on 3rd party software i.e. DDU and jump through hoops the typical user isn't going to be aware of then there might be a problem. I don't know if the blame should be on AMD or Microsoft but Nvidia does't have those stupid issues with Windows Update. I think AMD has done some great things in the PC space, their CPUs are great, the fact that bios flashback is a standard feature on AMD boards now (take notes Intel), etc. but I would never even consider an AMD gpu.

I fully agree with this post.

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

DDU isn't something exclusive when going to AMD. It's just a "standard procedure" a lot of people choose to do in order to be thorough with driver cleaning regardless or where they are starting or going.

I can see why you'd say this, but at the same time I don't think this is what you're making it out to be. I agree DDU is done and recommended a lot and at this point whole lot of people probably do it as an integral part of gpu-swapping/troubleshooting but that's the only reason it might be viewed as a "standard procedure". I think "popular" would be the word you're looking for. Just because it's common doesn't mean it's right or should be necessary. Truth be told, people probably do it more than they need to.

DDU can be totally left out of the equation and we'd still be left at the same bottom line on this individual case which is that OP is having issues and that issue happens to be coming from an AMD gpu. DDU is just a secondary element. We could easily leave DDU out and leave it at "op is having issues with an AMD card and has no easy way to troubleshoot it".

***I know you tend to do fully thought out responses and I have no problem if you respond to me like that but I'd rather not dedicate too much time to a discussion on this since I know we both are stubborn in our beliefs and would end up exactly where we started. I'll gladly read your rebuttal though.


I did skim through the rest of your post which seems like mostly specifics on AMD/driver conflicting with Windows updates but don't think it has much to do with what I said on DDU so I won't really address it.

Also, I will say that I agree OP is ranting whether or not his AMD issue is legit because he hasn't even specified what his performance is so for all we know he's getting really good performance just doesn't like it.