Mandatory Windows 10 (minimum) to run Steam client?

[Anubis.KaraK]

"Starting January 1st, 2024, the Steam Client will only support Windows 10 and later versions."

Whats the point of buying older versions of games on Steam then?

Im buying older versions of same games to run them on my older machines (Windows XP run beautifully on old hardware where Windows 10 can't even be installed)...

Your thoughts?

[Crawl]

I think we don't need another thread on this topic, its been beaten to death and isn't going to change anything.

[emoticorpse]

I buy older copies of games so I can run them on Win 10

[humboldt]

i do not understand:

"Whats the point of buying older versions of games on Steam then?"

...can you explain?

my comment:
windows 10 is new os and runs a lot of systems and i dont know, why steam wants windows 10 minimum. i would say: it is no wonder, that this day has come, when the minimum requirements for steam are pushed a little. more i cant say.
byebye

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Win10 came out in 2015. It's not "new"

It is the new minimum because previous OS' are no longer supported.

Doesn't matter if a game is old and just needs XP or 7. Those game will run fine under Win10

[xSOSxHawkens]

Originally posted by Anubis.KaraK:

"Starting January 1st, 2024, the Steam Client will only support Windows 10 and later versions."

Whats the point of buying older versions of games on Steam then?

Im buying older versions of same games to run them on my older machines (Windows XP run beautifully on old hardware where Windows 10 can't even be installed)...

Your thoughts?

Take your fund and buiz for the older titles to GOG.

DRM free and friendly to older OS's via offline game installers that work on both new and old OS versions.

Steam is fine for modern titles, but they shoot themselves in the foot hard with their lack of OS/DRM Free support for legacy titles. Where GOG more or less requires DRM free for older titles to be listed, Steam more or less requires devs/publishers to go out of their way to list something as anything other than Steam DRM backed. The end result is most legacy titles that could be DRM free are not, simply because its easier to push them through with defaults than to spend any time at all trying to get steam to do special things.

[lsdninja]

Just install your old games from disk on those operating systems.

Wait...

[Anubis.KaraK]

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:

Originally posted by Anubis.KaraK:

"Starting January 1st, 2024, the Steam Client will only support Windows 10 and later versions."

Whats the point of buying older versions of games on Steam then?

Im buying older versions of same games to run them on my older machines (Windows XP run beautifully on old hardware where Windows 10 can't even be installed)...

Your thoughts?

Take your fund and buiz for the older titles to GOG.

DRM free and friendly to older OS's via offline game installers that work on both new and old OS versions.

Steam is fine for modern titles, but they shoot themselves in the foot hard with their lack of OS/DRM Free support for legacy titles. Where GOG more or less requires DRM free for older titles to be listed, Steam more or less requires devs/publishers to go out of their way to list something as anything other than Steam DRM backed. The end result is most legacy titles that could be DRM free are not, simply because its easier to push them through with defaults than to spend any time at all trying to get steam to do special things.

Thanks for your suggestion . I will definetly give it a try.
It looks exactly what i need now

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by lsdninja:

Just install your old games from disk on those operating systems.

Wait...

You can get around this by using an app to backup the game discs to ISOs; then run the ISO as an active drive.

[lsdninja]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

You can get around this by using an app to backup the game discs to ISOs; then run the ISO as an active drive.

You're assuming there's a disk to back up in this scenario ;)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by lsdninja:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

You can get around this by using an app to backup the game discs to ISOs; then run the ISO as an active drive.

You're assuming there's a disk to back up in this scenario ;)

Well yes, if they have an old game on disc. As long as it run under Win2000/XP then it should be able to run under Win10/11, but these OS block many older games from CD/DVD being installed.

GOG is an option though for sure, with regards to how it offers stand-alone installers so the game from GOG won't be dependent on any game client DRM.

[lsdninja]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Well yes, if they have an old game on disc.

If people were smart(er) back then, they would.

[r.linder]

This shouldn't be news, it's been a topic for over a year and all throughout 2023, the client had a big warning about Windows 7 losing support on January 1st.

Windows 7 lost extended support in 2020, people had four years to make a decision on whether or not to continue with Windows at all and to get a system that would actually run Windows 10, to keep using Steam without problems. There's really no excuse, you can buy or build a cheap system that'll run modern Windows for as little as 300~400$ depending on how lucky and quick you are with the second hand market and some retail deals.

[Anubis.KaraK]

Originally posted by r.linder:

This shouldn't be news, it's been a topic for over a year and all throughout 2023, the client had a big warning about Windows 7 losing support on January 1st.

Windows 7 lost extended support in 2020, people had four years to make a decision on whether or not to continue with Windows at all and to get a system that would actually run Windows 10, to keep using Steam without problems. There's really no excuse, you can buy or build a cheap system that'll run modern Windows for as little as 300~400$ depending on how lucky and quick you are with the second hand market and some retail deals.

You don't understand. I have new computers, from desktops to laptops (atm i'm writing on a win11pro machine), money is not the issue here. I'm not buying older versions of the same titles for new rigs. I'm buying them for my oldtimers, still perfectly working and tuned up, where new "remastered" editions don't work (just like Win10+)...

There's really no excuse for old car owners not to buy a new one, is it?

There's much more to pleasures in life than just buying new (every fool can do that)...

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Anubis.KaraK:

Originally posted by r.linder:

This shouldn't be news, it's been a topic for over a year and all throughout 2023, the client had a big warning about Windows 7 losing support on January 1st.

Windows 7 lost extended support in 2020, people had four years to make a decision on whether or not to continue with Windows at all and to get a system that would actually run Windows 10, to keep using Steam without problems. There's really no excuse, you can buy or build a cheap system that'll run modern Windows for as little as 300~400$ depending on how lucky and quick you are with the second hand market and some retail deals.

You don't understand. I have new computers, from desktops to laptops (atm i'm writing on a win11pro machine), money is not the issue here. I'm not buying older versions of the same titles for new rigs. I'm buying them for my oldtimers, still perfectly working and tuned up, where new "remastered" editions don't work (just like Win10+)...

There's really no excuse for old car owners not to buy a new one, is it?

There's much more to pleasures in life than just buying new (every fool can do that)...

Software is a completely different animal. Once support is dropped, the quality of the experience degrades as the software continues to be updated while the OS itself remains the same. Eventually the software just won't work properly at all, the vast majority of internet browsers as well as Steam will inevitably fail to work correctly once they fall out of support too much. Windows 7 machines eventually won't even be able to access the download servers for Steam, they won't be able to install games the normal way.

By allowing them to cling to something older that's doomed to become unusable sooner than the hardware itself, you're robbing them of precious time that's better spent teaching them how to use Windows 10+ or even user friendly Linux distros. It's not the way to go, you're hurting them in the long term by taking the easy route in the short term.

For very old systems that struggle to run Windows 10 very snappily or actually won't run at all, lighter Linux distros like Puppy Linux would run far better.

[Anubis.KaraK]

Originally posted by r.linder:

Originally posted by Anubis.KaraK:

You don't understand. I have new computers, from desktops to laptops (atm i'm writing on a win11pro machine), money is not the issue here. I'm not buying older versions of the same titles for new rigs. I'm buying them for my oldtimers, still perfectly working and tuned up, where new "remastered" editions don't work (just like Win10+)...

There's really no excuse for old car owners not to buy a new one, is it?

There's much more to pleasures in life than just buying new (every fool can do that)...

Software is a completely different animal. Once support is dropped, the quality of the experience degrades as the software continues to be updated while the OS itself remains the same. Eventually the software just won't work properly at all, the vast majority of internet browsers as well as Steam will inevitably fail to work correctly once they fall out of support too much. Windows 7 machines eventually won't even be able to access the download servers for Steam, they won't be able to install games the normal way.

By allowing them to cling to something older that's doomed to become unusable sooner than the hardware itself, you're robbing them of precious time that's better spent teaching them how to use Windows 10+ or even user friendly Linux distros. It's not the way to go, you're hurting them in the long term by taking the easy route in the short term.

For very old systems that struggle to run Windows 10 very snappily or actually won't run at all, lighter Linux distros like Puppy Linux would run far better.

I was thinking of installing a SteamOS, but then there is a question of authenticity of the oldtimer...

Anyway, since Steam locked out old Windows users (nobody expects them to waste their time providing support, just like Microsoft is not providing support for older OS, but they do still work), old OS users will have to addapt, and the GOG provides exactly what we need, no extra support needed and no fears that one day all the bought titles for Windows10 will face the simmilar fate...