Intel CPU or AMD CPU ?

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

I'm thinking about purchasing a new PC.

For GPU, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti (the best one I can buy with low budget)
(No, I can't upgrade it to 4070, I aint living in America or EU countries).
But I'm very confused about CPU.

Which one should I purchase, AMD or Intel ?

AMD is cheap, gives decent performance and has really good compability with most motherboards and sockets.

While Intel also very good, but changes sockets often and a bit expensive.


Like, what you guys think ?
I'm not an expert at building PC's soo..
Yeah...

Edit:

I'm not going to play at 4k, I'm only going to play at 2k at max
I do think about taking videos and streaming (on discord to my friends or something) but not on twitch or youtube.
I do think about making videos for youtube (like taking random moments I had in games, etc etc)

I need single core performance as well as multi core, but since there is like.. No CPU that does that, I think I'll go with multicore performance. Or with cores idk.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von simon.pete15:

AMD RX 7... uses FSR3, which is software run rather than hardware run extra frames. And mine does ray tracing, I think all of the latest release AMD GPU's do. Probably not quite up to Nvidia standard, but improving all the time.
If I remember right, the Radeon RX 7800 XT is roughly equivalent to an Nvidia 4070.

Check out some comparison sites, Gamers Nexus is a respected YouTube channel, Hardware Unboxed, Jay zee two cents are also respected channels. They'll keep you on the right track, they do testing and comparison of all computer hardware, cases, PSU's, cooling, monitors, CPU's, everything.
I find they speak very quickly and use a lot of jargon which can be not easy to follow. Once you start to figure out the jargon it gets easier. But be prepared for that. You might be fine with the jargon, but if English isn't your first language.......... Just warning you to be prepared, with your mouse pointer over the rewind button

Thanks for the information and recommendations

For now, I'm learning about the numbers and letters on CPU's.
Then I will look for some tips as well.

[r.linder]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

It’s common sense, the 7700XT would be the same price range and similar performance as the 4060 Ti and the 7800XT is not much more and much faster. It takes a one minute google search to find that information because of the vast wealth of information on AMD vs Nvidia GPUs.

If you can’t afford it immediately, then work harder? It’s pretty simple, don’t know what to tell you. I know it’s difficult to hear, but most people who complain about money could solve their issue if they just put in the effort.

And that wasn’t me being rude, it was me being blunt. There are a lot of people who will honestly rip themselves off because they don’t like AMD, which is circus logic.

Work "HARDER"

Dude, I'm working up to 45 hours a week.
What the hell are you talking about, I barely have enough time for my self.

There are people working 60+ hours and 7 days a week, 40~50 is standard. Showing good work ethic and the willingness to put effort in can get you opportunities for better paying jobs as well.

[Tiberius]

Get 7950x if you have the budget. Cpu doesnt matter that much for gaming (aside for certain genres. Simulation mostly), so it's better to get a cpu that's suited for your non-gaming activity

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Work "HARDER"

Dude, I'm working up to 45 hours a week.
What the hell are you talking about, I barely have enough time for my self.

There are people working 60+ hours and 7 days a week, 40~50 is standard. Showing good work ethic and the willingness to put effort in can get you opportunities for better paying jobs as well.

You have 18k hours on Black Desert. Do you even know what "outside" is?

Also, show me one person who works 60+ hours. You only work that much if you need a lot of money or are trying to buy a new house or something.

And what do you mean by "working on better-paying jobs"? That's not a thing in my country.

Jesus Christ, stop criticizing people and the way they make money. I'm looking for a budget PC, not for someone to criticize me.

You can leave this thread now, or I will report you for derailing.

[r.linder]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

There are people working 60+ hours and 7 days a week, 40~50 is standard. Showing good work ethic and the willingness to put effort in can get you opportunities for better paying jobs as well.

You have 18k hours on Black Desert. Do you even know what "outside" is?

Also, show me one person who works 60+ hours. You only work that much if you need a lot of money or are trying to buy a new house or something.

And what do you mean by "working on better-paying jobs"? That's not a thing in my country.

Jesus Christ, stop criticizing people and the way they make money. I'm looking for a budget PC, not for someone to criticize me.

You can leave this thread now, or I will report you for derailing.

First of all, most of those hours are AFK lifeskilling and grinding because the game has a feature that allows you to minimize it to the taskbar and reduce the system resource cost to almost nothing. But it's really funny how you went to my profile to try to find something to use as ammunition to try to belittle me because you were offended at me suggesting that you buckle up and put more effort in if you want more money for a better system.

I work with people who work overtime every weekend and have worked 60+ hour weeks myself in past. Depending on what you do for a living, it ranges from barely much worse to a lot worse, but there are jobs out there that automatically expect you to work 7 days a week or a minimum of 50 hours (but pay handsomely) because of the demand of their industry.

I wasn't criticising, it was a suggestion, because if a 4060 Ti is the best GPU you can afford when picking a 7800X3D, then maybe you should be getting a cheaper CPU instead, because the 4060 Ti isn't worth the money, period. The alternative is to save up for a bit more instead of rushing to buy a system that isn't as good as it could be because of a lack of patience.

But whatever, I'll leave, I don't really care about what you have to say anymore. Not going to waste more time on people who get offended at the thought of working a little bit harder every day for something better.

[C1REX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von C1REX:

Why is there such a strong focus on the 4060Ti? The 16GB model offers horrible value. A regular 4070 can be bought for just a little bit more and it's approximately 40% faster. There's a massive difference in performance and a way value.

Please read my previous posts:

In my country:

Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti values at 29K

That’s why I talk about 4070 that is significantly less expensive than 4070 Ti.

4070 and 4070 Ti are not the same. Two different GPUs.

[C1REX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

However, I have never seen an AMD card able to use "Ray Tracing" in any game.
I want to use Ray Tracing as well. If I'm going to pay a lot of money, I want it to be worth it.

Like, whats the equilevent of 4070 on AMD GPU's ?

4060Ti can’t realistically do proper Ray Tracing. It’s to slow in genaral and adding RT will be too much of FPS drop.

4060Ti 16GB is slower at Ray Tracing on average than 7800XT at the same price.
So if AMD is bad at Ray Tracing then this GPU is even worse at this price bracket.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/35.html

4080 super review but there is a huge comparison of different GPUs at Ray Tracing.

[humboldt]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von C1REX:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

However, I have never seen an AMD card able to use "Ray Tracing" in any game.
I want to use Ray Tracing as well. If I'm going to pay a lot of money, I want it to be worth it.

Like, whats the equilevent of 4070 on AMD GPU's ?

4060Ti can’t realistically do proper Ray Tracing. It’s to slow in genaral and adding RT will be too much of FPS drop.

4060Ti 16GB is slower at Ray Tracing on average than 7800XT at the same price.
So if AMD is bad at Ray Tracing then this GPU is even worse at this price bracket.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/35.html

4080 super reviews but there is a huge comparison of different GPUs at Ray Tracing.

my comment: raytracing might be useable with a 4090/ nividia...just an idea.. i had a look at the technique and my setup is too slow, but i have been reading on the www and i think that the ray tracing effects are some kind of obsolete...i have seen this in youtube videos with games like batltefield and cyperpunk. the difference is very small to me. i dont need raytracing to play pc games.
thx for reading.
byebye