Intel CPU or AMD CPU ?

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

I'm thinking about purchasing a new PC.

For GPU, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti (the best one I can buy with low budget)
(No, I can't upgrade it to 4070, I aint living in America or EU countries).
But I'm very confused about CPU.

Which one should I purchase, AMD or Intel ?

AMD is cheap, gives decent performance and has really good compability with most motherboards and sockets.

While Intel also very good, but changes sockets often and a bit expensive.


Like, what you guys think ?
I'm not an expert at building PC's soo..
Yeah...

Edit:

I'm not going to play at 4k, I'm only going to play at 2k at max
I do think about taking videos and streaming (on discord to my friends or something) but not on twitch or youtube.
I do think about making videos for youtube (like taking random moments I had in games, etc etc)

I need single core performance as well as multi core, but since there is like.. No CPU that does that, I think I'll go with multicore performance. Or with cores idk.

[mtono]

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

I'm thinking about purchasing a new PC.

For GPU, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti (the best one I can buy with low budget)
(No, I can't upgrade it to 4070, I aint living in America or EU countries).
But I'm very confused about CPU.

Which one should I purchase, AMD or Intel ?

AMD is cheap, gives decent performance and has really good compability with most motherboards and sockets.

While Intel also very good, but changes sockets often and a bit expensive.


Like, what you guys think ?
I'm not an expert at building PC's soo..
Yeah...

Edit:

I'm not going to play at 4k, I'm only going to play at 2k at max
I do think about taking videos and streaming (on discord to my friends or something) but not on twitch or youtube.
I do think about making videos for youtube (like taking random moments I had in games, etc etc)

I need single core performance as well as multi core, but since there is like.. No CPU that does that, I think I'll go with multicore performance. Or with cores idk.

i dont want to read teh whole thread, but tell my opinion.
i would buy amd ryzen 5800x3d...why? am4 with ddr 4 is a good option,, if you do not want to change teh system. your garphics board, nvidia 4060 ti, may harmonize with the amd cpu and the prizes are low. you may not be able to upgrade your cpu and if you want the newest stuff, i cant tell you soemthing about it, i dont own it.
my2ct
byebye

[C1REX]

Why is there such a strong focus on the 4060Ti? The 16GB model offers horrible value. A regular 4070 can be bought for just a little bit more and it's approximately 40% faster. There's a massive difference in performance and a way value.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Escrito originalmente por C1REX:

Why is there such a strong focus on the 4060Ti? The 16GB model offers horrible value. A regular 4070 can be bought for just a little bit more and it's approximately 40% faster. There's a massive difference in performance and a way value.

Please read my previous posts:

In my country:

Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti values at 29K

Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti with some other decent computer parts (Like Motherboard and CPU, PSU, Ram) costs 23k

Edit:

I CANNOT give that much money for a single GPU.
I rather have a 4060Ti with a few other parts, rather than buying a single GPU.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Like, you guys are right.
I should purchase a 4070 Ti, but I cannot, it's TOO expensive.


I checked to some recent benchmarks and, 4060Ti is better than 3060 Ti.
Which was the GPU I was going to purchase before.

And now, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti instead of 3060 Ti

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por secret_agent_man:

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

I'm thinking about purchasing a new PC.

For GPU, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti (the best one I can buy with low budget)
(No, I can't upgrade it to 4070, I aint living in America or EU countries).
But I'm very confused about CPU.

Which one should I purchase, AMD or Intel ?

AMD is cheap, gives decent performance and has really good compability with most motherboards and sockets.

While Intel also very good, but changes sockets often and a bit expensive.


Like, what you guys think ?
I'm not an expert at building PC's soo..
Yeah...

Edit:

I'm not going to play at 4k, I'm only going to play at 2k at max
I do think about taking videos and streaming (on discord to my friends or something) but not on twitch or youtube.
I do think about making videos for youtube (like taking random moments I had in games, etc etc)

I need single core performance as well as multi core, but since there is like.. No CPU that does that, I think I'll go with multicore performance. Or with cores idk.

i dont want to read teh whole thread, but tell my opinion.
i would buy amd ryzen 5800x3d...why? am4 with ddr 4 is a good option,, if you do not want to change teh system. your garphics board, nvidia 4060 ti, may harmonize with the amd cpu and the prizes are low. you may not be able to upgrade your cpu and if you want the newest stuff, i cant tell you soemthing about it, i dont own it.
my2ct
byebye

It's not worth buying into AM4 for that CPU specifically, even the R5 7600 is close to matching its performance, the overall system cost with that CPU would be similar but you get the upgrade headroom, whereas 5800X3D is likely going to never be surpassed on its own socket for gaming performance.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Like, you guys are right.
I should purchase a 4070 Ti, but I cannot, it's TOO expensive.


I checked to some recent benchmarks and, 4060Ti is better than 3060 Ti.
Which was the GPU I was going to purchase before.

And now, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti instead of 3060 Ti

It's basically 10% better at best, though the 16GB variant is stupid because it's an extra 20~25% in USD MSRP for an extra 8GB VRAM that it can't even take full advantage of because the core is weak and the memory bandwidth is garbage anyway, which is why the 3060 Ti was matching it in some games, they killed the bandwidth and tried to fix it with L2 cache. Why? Money, it was probably cheaper and it entices people to go for the 4070, which is much faster.

Speaking of, we've said that the 4070 Ti is pointless but you keep mentioning it. Screw the Ti and look at base 4070s, they're miles ahead of the 4060 Ti because it's the same rough performance as a 3080, whereas the 4060 Ti is weaker than a 3070. It's worth the difference, don't give money to Nvidia on crap GPUs that should've never left the drawing board.

[simon.pete15]

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

In my country:

Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti values at 29K

Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti with some other decent computer parts (Like Motherboard and CPU, PSU, Ram) costs 23k

Edit:

I CANNOT give that much money for a single GPU.
I rather have a 4060Ti with a few other parts, rather than buying a single GPU.

How do AMD's GPU's compare price wise, to Nvidia?
I've just bought an Asus Radeon RX 7900 XT, which is going to be beyond your budget. But the 7800 XT is also a pretty good card, roughly conparable to a 4070 in performance, with 16GB VRAM. But priced between 4060 and 4070.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por simon.pete15:

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

In my country:

Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti values at 29K

Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti with some other decent computer parts (Like Motherboard and CPU, PSU, Ram) costs 23k

Edit:

I CANNOT give that much money for a single GPU.
I rather have a 4060Ti with a few other parts, rather than buying a single GPU.

How do AMD's GPU's compare price wise, to Nvidia?
I've just bought an Asus Radeon RX 7900 XT, which is going to be beyond your budget. But the 7800 XT is also a pretty good card, roughly conparable to a 4070 in performance, with 16GB VRAM. But priced between 4060 and 4070.

7800-XT is around 2~3K TRY more than the 4060 Ti and 3K less than the 4070, so it seems like even in Turkey, the 7800-XT is still the best value mid-range GPU, faster and cheaper than the 4070 and 10K+ cheaper than the 4070 Ti while being less than 10% slower in many instances

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt/34.html

Raytracing performance is also higher than the 4060 Ti in most games, they're in completely different tiers.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

Escrito originalmente por simon.pete15:

How do AMD's GPU's compare price wise, to Nvidia?
I've just bought an Asus Radeon RX 7900 XT, which is going to be beyond your budget. But the 7800 XT is also a pretty good card, roughly conparable to a 4070 in performance, with 16GB VRAM. But priced between 4060 and 4070.

7800-XT is around 2~3K TRY more than the 4060 Ti and 3K less than the 4070, so it seems like even in Turkey, the 7800-XT is still the best value mid-range GPU, faster and cheaper than the 4070 and 10K+ cheaper than the 4070 Ti while being less than 10% slower in many instances

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt/34.html

Raytracing performance is also higher than the 4060 Ti in most games, they're in completely different tiers.

There is no 4070 on the site I'm looking at.

Okay, the reason why I want Nvidia cards is that, let's be honest, Nvidia cards are superior in general when it comes to technology.

While AMD cards may have better raw power (I think).

However, I have never seen an AMD card able to use "Ray Tracing" in any game.
I want to use Ray Tracing as well. If I'm going to pay a lot of money, I want it to be worth it.

Like, whats the equilevent of 4070 on AMD GPU's ?

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

7800-XT is around 2~3K TRY more than the 4060 Ti and 3K less than the 4070, so it seems like even in Turkey, the 7800-XT is still the best value mid-range GPU, faster and cheaper than the 4070 and 10K+ cheaper than the 4070 Ti while being less than 10% slower in many instances

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt/34.html

Raytracing performance is also higher than the 4060 Ti in most games, they're in completely different tiers.

There is no 4070 on the site I'm looking at.

Okay, the reason why I want Nvidia cards is that, let's be honest, Nvidia cards are superior in general when it comes to technology.

While AMD cards may have better raw power (I think).

However, I have never seen an AMD card able to use "Ray Tracing" in any game.
I want to use Ray Tracing as well. If I'm going to pay a lot of money, I want it to be worth it.

Like, whats the equilevent of 4070 on AMD GPU's ?

I checked on the Turkey site of Newegg, they're there.

7800-XT is cheaper and faster than the 4070 in rasterization, faster than the 4060-Ti in raytracing.

NVIDIA's superior technology is partially subjective because the GPU is being used for gaming in this case, they only thing they really have to offer is slightly better raytracing performance (the 7800-XT sits just behind the 4070 in most instances for RT, it's not much slower for that and definitely still worth the price difference) and DLSS, but FSR has wider support because it's open source whereas NVIDIA only lends DLSS to devs they directly work with.

It's fine to be biased but if you're going to cost yourself a lot of performance because of it, may as well buy some clown makeup

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

There is no 4070 on the site I'm looking at.

Okay, the reason why I want Nvidia cards is that, let's be honest, Nvidia cards are superior in general when it comes to technology.

While AMD cards may have better raw power (I think).

However, I have never seen an AMD card able to use "Ray Tracing" in any game.
I want to use Ray Tracing as well. If I'm going to pay a lot of money, I want it to be worth it.

Like, whats the equilevent of 4070 on AMD GPU's ?

I checked on the Turkey site of Newegg, they're there.

7800-XT is cheaper and faster than the 4070 in rasterization, faster than the 4060-Ti in raytracing.

NVIDIA's superior technology is partially subjective because the GPU is being used for gaming in this case, they only thing they really have to offer is slightly better raytracing performance (the 7800-XT sits just behind the 4070 in most instances for RT, it's not much slower for that and definitely still worth the price difference) and DLSS, but FSR has wider support because it's open source whereas NVIDIA only lends DLSS to devs they directly work with.

It's fine to be biased but if you're going to cost yourself a lot of performance because of it, may as well buy some clown makeup

What are you talking about? Why are you being argumentative?

I don't know much about computers, so I decided to ask here. If you could provide a few videos about AMD ray tracing and FSR, as well as the difference between DLSS, etc., I wouldn't say anything.

It's just that you guys are talking as if it's easy to make money. It's not the case in my country, and I'm trying to find a good GPU and CPU for my PC.

You could have simply said, "No, you're wrong. AMD GPUs have many good features as well and are affordable."

But instead, you chose to be rude.

Okay, thanks for the help anyway.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

I checked on the Turkey site of Newegg, they're there.

7800-XT is cheaper and faster than the 4070 in rasterization, faster than the 4060-Ti in raytracing.

NVIDIA's superior technology is partially subjective because the GPU is being used for gaming in this case, they only thing they really have to offer is slightly better raytracing performance (the 7800-XT sits just behind the 4070 in most instances for RT, it's not much slower for that and definitely still worth the price difference) and DLSS, but FSR has wider support because it's open source whereas NVIDIA only lends DLSS to devs they directly work with.

It's fine to be biased but if you're going to cost yourself a lot of performance because of it, may as well buy some clown makeup

What are you talking about? Why are you being argumentative?

I don't know much about computers, so I decided to ask here. If you could provide a few videos about AMD ray tracing and FSR, as well as the difference between DLSS, etc., I wouldn't say anything.

It's just that you guys are talking as if it's easy to make money. It's not the case in my country, and I'm trying to find a good GPU and CPU for my PC.

You could have simply said, "No, you're wrong. AMD GPUs have many good features as well and are affordable."

But instead, you chose to be rude.

Okay, thanks for the help anyway.

It’s common sense, the 7700XT would be the same price range and similar performance as the 4060 Ti and the 7800XT is not much more and much faster. It takes a one minute google search to find that information because of the vast wealth of information on AMD vs Nvidia GPUs.

If you can’t afford it immediately, then work harder? It’s pretty simple, don’t know what to tell you. I know it’s difficult to hear, but most people who complain about money could solve their issue if they just put in the effort.

And that wasn’t me being rude, it was me being blunt. There are a lot of people who will honestly rip themselves off because they don’t like AMD, which is circus logic.

[simon.pete15]

AMD RX 7... uses FSR3, which is software run rather than hardware run extra frames. And mine does ray tracing, I think all of the latest release AMD GPU's do. Probably not quite up to Nvidia standard, but improving all the time.
If I remember right, the Radeon RX 7800 XT is roughly equivalent to an Nvidia 4070.

Check out some comparison sites, Gamers Nexus is a respected YouTube channel, Hardware Unboxed, Jay zee two cents are also respected channels. They'll keep you on the right track, they do testing and comparison of all computer hardware, cases, PSU's, cooling, monitors, CPU's, everything.
I find they speak very quickly and use a lot of jargon which can be not easy to follow. Once you start to figure out the jargon it gets easier. But be prepared for that. You might be fine with the jargon, but if English isn't your first language.......... Just warning you to be prepared, with your mouse pointer over the rewind button

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

Escrito originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

What are you talking about? Why are you being argumentative?

I don't know much about computers, so I decided to ask here. If you could provide a few videos about AMD ray tracing and FSR, as well as the difference between DLSS, etc., I wouldn't say anything.

It's just that you guys are talking as if it's easy to make money. It's not the case in my country, and I'm trying to find a good GPU and CPU for my PC.

You could have simply said, "No, you're wrong. AMD GPUs have many good features as well and are affordable."

But instead, you chose to be rude.

Okay, thanks for the help anyway.

It’s common sense, the 7700XT would be the same price range and similar performance as the 4060 Ti and the 7800XT is not much more and much faster. It takes a one minute google search to find that information because of the vast wealth of information on AMD vs Nvidia GPUs.

If you can’t afford it immediately, then work harder? It’s pretty simple, don’t know what to tell you. I know it’s difficult to hear, but most people who complain about money could solve their issue if they just put in the effort.

And that wasn’t me being rude, it was me being blunt. There are a lot of people who will honestly rip themselves off because they don’t like AMD, which is circus logic.

Work "HARDER"

Dude, I'm working up to 45 hours a week.
What the hell are you talking about, I barely have enough time for my self.

[mtono]

mr threadsarter: do you have a budget?