Intel CPU or AMD CPU ?

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

I'm thinking about purchasing a new PC.

For GPU, I decided to purchase 4060 Ti (the best one I can buy with low budget)
(No, I can't upgrade it to 4070, I aint living in America or EU countries).
But I'm very confused about CPU.

Which one should I purchase, AMD or Intel ?

AMD is cheap, gives decent performance and has really good compability with most motherboards and sockets.

While Intel also very good, but changes sockets often and a bit expensive.


Like, what you guys think ?
I'm not an expert at building PC's soo..
Yeah...

Edit:

I'm not going to play at 4k, I'm only going to play at 2k at max
I do think about taking videos and streaming (on discord to my friends or something) but not on twitch or youtube.
I do think about making videos for youtube (like taking random moments I had in games, etc etc)

I need single core performance as well as multi core, but since there is like.. No CPU that does that, I think I'll go with multicore performance. Or with cores idk.

[Omega]

At the moment AMD has the better offerings of the two. AMD CPUs are cheaper, faster, run cooler and are much more energy efficient than the Intel CPUs right now.

And like you yourself mentioned, the sockets stay around for much longer, it is reasonable to assume that on AM5 in 5 years you could drop a new CPU in to the machine should you decide to upgrade, Intel would have gone through 2 more socket itterations by then.

[Mad Scientist]

AMD has been a wise choice basically since the launch of Ryzen, especially performance per dollar it tends to be cheaper as a CPU and for motherboards.

Having gone from Intel to AMD, I recommend it to people especially if they want good performance without breaking their wallet. Intel boards also had a tendency to have very specific issues depending on what you were doing, so that could be a headache creator.

[Bing Chilling]

i have to agree with the above points
AMD at the moment is the better offering and is what i'll be switching to aswel
once i finally upgrade from my i5 8600k

The main reason for me atleast is just their sockets last far longer.
intel is so damn stingy when it comes to upgrading, not to mention
they require specific motherboards and specific cpu versions to overclock.
while on AMD you can OC any of their CPU's aslong as you don't have a
A320 and A520 Which are their lowest end motherboards.
(wouldn't put anything decent on one anyways)

[Mathius]

I'm no expert either, but I'm in need of a new pc myself and I've been looking at a lot of stuff.

From what I can tell, AMD sacrifices performance for cost, while Intel does slightly better at very intense workloads by ramping up the cooling and electrical needs.

From what I can tell most of the newest Intel chips are basically refreshes that require more power and massive air coolers, or liquid coolings.

However, over the last decade there's also been a lot of casual fanboying over AMD going as far back as the older gen Intel security leaks that were revealed in a lot of their older chipsets.

For a lot of people this was the "Aha!" moment that justified their opinion that AMD was better. Large sites like Reddit have become anti-corporation and contributing to the insistent idea that Intel is just cheating their customers.

I've recently become a subscriber of a youtube channel where the author fixes GPUs. He gets a lot of 40 series (4090 etc) video card repairs and points out their design flaws, but he doesn't even like to touch AMD cards.

Myself, I will continue to use an Intel/nVidia setup. I've used it my entire life and never had issues and I suspect most of the AAA studios are using this setup as well, which probably contributes to my lack of issues as well.

[Carlsberg]

Personally I do not think much in terms of performance, they are both close depending on current product lines and sometimes Intel or Amd takes the lead as they chase each other. I price Motherboard, Ram and Cpu as a package and get best offering that gives me what I'm looking for within my budget.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

The reason why I think about purchasing Intel, is about the compability with softwares and performance.

While, I also think about AMD, because of their performance is almost close to Intel, cheaper and effective.

(I think the incompatible one is AMD GPU's but idk)

[Omega]

Publicado originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

The reason why I think about purchasing Intel, is about the compability with softwares and performance.

While, I also think about AMD, because of their performance is almost close to Intel, cheaper and effective.

(I think the incompatible one is AMD GPU's but idk)

Unless you have very specific edgecase requirements compatibility for both AMD and Intel is the same. Anything which works on an Intel will work on an AMD and vice versa.

At the moment AMD tends to be more performant in most games, especially their X3D CPUs.

[Mathius]

Publicado originalmente por Omega:

Unless you have very specific edgecase requirements compatibility for both AMD and Intel is the same. Anything which works on an Intel will work on an AMD and vice versa.

When you're arguing basic system requirements, sure. But on a technical level the differences between different chips and cards is big enough let alone the differences in manufactures when trying to actually get a graphics card to work with a game.

There's a very good reason why a steam review can have 70% of the player base talking about how great the game looks while another 20% are saying it crashes constantly or they can't get it to run.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Publicado originalmente por Omega:

Publicado originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

The reason why I think about purchasing Intel, is about the compability with softwares and performance.

While, I also think about AMD, because of their performance is almost close to Intel, cheaper and effective.

(I think the incompatible one is AMD GPU's but idk)

Unless you have very specific edgecase requirements compatibility for both AMD and Intel is the same. Anything which works on an Intel will work on an AMD and vice versa.

At the moment AMD tends to be more performant in most games, especially their X3D CPUs.

Welp, I think I decide on AMD for now then.
When search about it.

People always says how easy it is to overclock your CPU, or replace it with a new one.
Like the amount of Quality of Life features it has, while Intel's CPU a bit scummy because new ones doesn't increase the Performance that much, while requires a new socket and spesific motherboards.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Publicado originalmente por Mathius:

Publicado originalmente por Omega:

Unless you have very specific edgecase requirements compatibility for both AMD and Intel is the same. Anything which works on an Intel will work on an AMD and vice versa.

When you're arguing basic system requirements, sure. But on a technical level the differences between different cards is big enough let alone the differences in manufactures when trying to actually get a graphics card to work with a game.

There's a very good reason why a steam review can have 70% of the player base talking about how great the game looks while another 20% are saying it crashes constantly or they can't get it to run.

for the GPU, I agree.
Seems like most games are compatible with Nvidia cards more.

But for CPU.. I don't really know.

Most people who gets black screens or crashes, generally does something wrong to be honest...

[Mathius]

Publicado originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

People always says how easy it is to overclock your CPU, or replace it with a new one.

Which might be another reason why I go against the grain and stick with Intel.

I will never overclock anything. In fact, the advice people seem to be given for the newest Intel chips is to run them at lower wattage/voltages (sorry, I can never quite get electrical specs)

To be clear, I'm no expert and I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying this works of me.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Publicado originalmente por Mathius:

Publicado originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

People always says how easy it is to overclock your CPU, or replace it with a new one.

Which might be another reason why I go against the grain and stick with Intel.

I will never overclock anything. In fact, the advice people seem to be given for the newest Intel chips is to run them at lower wattage/voltages (sorry, I can never quite get electrical specs)

To be clear, I'm no expert and I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying this works of me.

Oh it's completely okay.
You just share you opinion, which is the reason why I made this thread.
To get opinions and some advice from people.

I also like intel,I always used Intel CPU's.
They were always high quality and didn't had any trouble with them.

The reason why I think about AMD, is the features it offers.

[Mathius]

Publicado originalmente por Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Oh it's completely okay.
You just share you opinion, which is the reason why I made this thread.
To get opinions and some advice from people.

I also like intel,I always used Intel CPU's.
They were always high quality and didn't had any trouble with them.

The reason why I think about AMD, is the features it offers.

Brand loyalty is a bad thing. In that regard, I agree with you, you should try to look at all options.

When researching power supplies, the common consensus seem to be that brands don't matter, that you need to look at the individuals power supply performance (for example.)

I can remember when people didn't even acknowledge parts brands and you just need a "VGA video card" or an "SVGA card" and the first hard choice ironically was which process as I had to decide whether or not to get an Intel chip, or a Cyrix (which merged with another company and died out.)

Now there are so many things involved it's intimidating. I'm not afraid of building a PC, I'm afraid of making the wrong parts selection.

[simon.pete15]

My personal opinion is that AMD CPU's are better than Intel, for general computer use and gaming. If you're a professional computer user, I don't know.

Some games apparently don't work well with AMD GPU's, but some games work better with AMD. So it partly depends on your choice of games.

There are several YouTube channels that test and compare CPU's, GPU's, motherboards, etc. Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, are a couple, there are others. They run benchmarking tests by playing tens of games on a rig, compiling and comparing the results to explain. They'll always use games which work better on AMD cards alongside games which work better on Nvidia cards, and point out 'this' game does better on a .... card.

I've just put a new GPU into my computer, an ASUS AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT. That is to go with an AMD R7 7700X. I've preferred AMD CPU's for quite a long time, but Nvidia GPUs have been my preference until now. I think Nvidia have become even more greedy recently, and as I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy (fan grandad?), I decided on a Team Red computer this time.
I was running with a 2070 Super, to tide me over until I decided on which GPU to get and to save the money for it.

[Mathius]

Publicado originalmente por simon.pete15:

I've preferred AMD CPU's for quite a long time, but Nvidia GPUs have been my preference until now. I think Nvidia have become even more greedy recently, and as I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy (fan grandad?), I decided on a Team Red computer this time.

Even though OP is asking about CPUs, GPUs are so important for gaming and it's important to talk about how they work together.

I have almost no experience with AMD cards aside from hearing everyone recommend them for years while devs are more likely to post recommendations for NVidia stuff, but one of the major flaws right now with NVidia stuff is they're just getting so darn big.

It's a well known issue at this point that GPU sag is absolutely a thing and the small "ear" on the card is taking way too much stress.

I don't know if AMD suffers from this issue, but investing in some type of GPU support, is probably a super cheap, super necessary addition.