PC Blu Ray drives

[Masque]

Was wondering: are internal PC Blu Rays better looking (in 1080p) than PC DVDs?

Thinking about getting a Blu Ray player, but only if the quality is better than DVD at 1080p.

None of the entries at Amazon for either internal or external PC Blu Ray drives mention literally ANYTHING about playback of Blu Ray discs. None of the comments and reviews mention anything about disc playback either. Which is why I ask here. It seems that 99.9 percent of the people using Blu Ray drives on their PC are using it to rip their movies -- not play them from disc.

[_I_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sigma957:

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

the drive has no idea if the disc is 4k or not
there is no difference in how the data is read from the disc
the drive does no decoding or anything

its the player software that decodes and plays the media, 4k or 1080p

The firmware of that particular LG drive does.

its probably the bundled software that limits playback to 1080p after a more recent patch, it cannot be the drive

iv seen that done with a hd-dvd+bd combo drive
bundled software plays hd-dvd and bd, newer software version no longer supports hd-dvd even tho the drive can see and read the hd-dvd disc

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

lol all these little problems is why blunray failed kinda and old ancient dvd won out

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Megami Blanc:

lol all these little problems is why blunray failed kinda and old ancient dvd won out

Not really. It just failed to go anywhere on PC. Most people who use Bluray do so by stand alone player or via game console.

The failure is the PC industry never cared for it since games stopped being on disc long ago and no one cares about movies on discs when online streaming everything has been very strong since as far back as approx 2010 or so

[emoticorpse]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Bad 💀 Motha:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Megami Blanc:

lol all these little problems is why blunray failed kinda and old ancient dvd won out

Not really. It just failed to go anywhere on PC. Most people who use Bluray do so by stand alone player or via game console.

The failure is the PC industry never cared for it since games stopped being on disc long ago and no one cares about movies on discs when online streaming everything has been very strong since as far back as approx 2010 or so

I think the streaming thing is what really did it. The culmination of high speed internet, hardware and apps to deliver high quality content so conveniently.

The fact that if all that was available when dvd was around, I would assume a gigantic chunk of people would have opted for that leaving dvd to look less successful just like bluray is now.

Can't ever prove it of course. But that's why I think bluray looks so bad in comparison.

[_I_]

bd doesnt look bad, but its limited by the players speed to read data off the disc
its very slow compared to hdd or even flash storage, most high speed internet is even faster than that

15+ years ago, it was faster to download a mp3 album vs digitally ripping it yourself with 52x drive

same thing now but with 4k bd

optical had a good run for around 30 years, but its gone the way of tape and other magnetic media

[Corona Scurrae]

why do you need blue-ray in the first place? do you have a 7.1 dolby surround sound and a 3 grand qd-oled?

blue-ray is only good if you have the hardware to take advantage of it. it has better picture quality and sound for dolby surround sound.

my gf buys all her movies and tv shows from apple and so far I haven't noticed anything out of the order. the picture quality is decent but not as sublime as blue-ray and the sound is fine enough considering we have a stereo setup and listen with audio compression ( loudness equalization to ensure your eardrum don't burst when anything loud happens )

[NIGROMANTE]

GEG

[_I_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av RIP Heihachi:

qd-oled?

mixing buzzwords
qd = quantum dot, led backlit lcd panel
oled = each sub pixel is its own led

[Corona Scurrae]

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

Opprinnelig skrevet av RIP Heihachi:

qd-oled?

mixing buzzwords
qd = quantum dot, led backlit lcd panel
oled = each sub pixel is its own led

I'm not. quantum dots are not only used in lcd displays. they exist in oled too. samsung's qd oled is testament to that.

in fact in the near future we will see qd nanorods. sharp already showcased their engineering sample. has all the benefits of oled but better color gamut and no organic components that will inevitably and eventually lead to permanent image retention.

my claim stands. if he has no true black hdr display ( mini-led with FALD doesn't cound because it's awful and the response time leaves a lot to be desired ) which can only be said about samsung qd oleds considering lg's oled lineup is terrible, then there is no point in blue-ray

[_I_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av RIP Heihachi:

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

mixing buzzwords
qd = quantum dot, led backlit lcd panel
oled = each sub pixel is its own led

I'm not. quantum dots are not only used in lcd displays. they exist in oled too. samsung's qd oled is testament to that.

in fact in the near future we will see qd nanorods. sharp already showcased their engineering sample. has all the benefits of oled but better color gamut and no organic components that will inevitably and eventually lead to permanent image retention.

my claim stands. if he has no true black hdr display ( mini-led with FALD doesn't cound because it's awful and the response time leaves a lot to be desired ) which can only be said about samsung qd oleds considering lg's oled lineup is terrible, then there is no point in blue-ray

ok, sry, its its samsung smashing buzzwords
qd-oled is a display type by samsung
its just an oled display

qd by itself is a led backlit lcd panel

[Carlsberg]

Opprinnelig skrevet av emoticorpse:

I think the streaming thing is what really did it. The culmination of high speed internet, hardware and apps to deliver high quality content so conveniently.

The fact that if all that was available when dvd was around, I would assume a gigantic chunk of people would have opted for that leaving dvd to look less successful just like bluray is now.

Can't ever prove it of course. But that's why I think bluray looks so bad in comparison.

You could be right in that thinking, I have a BR-RW in my PC that has never been used at all in the 5/6 years its been there. And I have a standalone BR in the living room that never gets used at all now either.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Carlsberg:

Opprinnelig skrevet av emoticorpse:

I think the streaming thing is what really did it. The culmination of high speed internet, hardware and apps to deliver high quality content so conveniently.

The fact that if all that was available when dvd was around, I would assume a gigantic chunk of people would have opted for that leaving dvd to look less successful just like bluray is now.

Can't ever prove it of course. But that's why I think bluray looks so bad in comparison.

You could be right in that thinking, I have a BR-RW in my PC that has never been used at all in the 5/6 years its been there. And I have a standalone BR in the living room that never gets used at all now either.

Your lack of overall usage speaks for alot of people nowa days too. And also due to the lack of sales of BR drives, players and blank media, this has all kept the prices quite high. Blank BR discs are very expensive and the good quality USB drives haven't really changed price much since their release. Such as the ASUS branded drives for example. The movies are quite expensive as well.

[piet11111]

I use Leawo for playing blurays it supports UHD bluray discs as well.
Along with a Pioneer BDR-XS07TUHD that uses a simple usb c 3.1 cable to power itself and send the video data.

[Obsessive Power]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Bad 💀 Motha:

The movies are quite expensive as well.

Yeah the 4K UHD movies are around £25 - £30 here in the UK. Standard BD disc prices aren't too bad., but still not quite the same as DVD's were for the same time period.

I used to be quite a collector of BD's. I think I've got nearly 200 movies on my last count. I've calmed down since.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Opprinnelig skrevet av _I_:

the drive has no idea if the disc is 4k or not
there is no difference in how the data is read from the disc
the drive does no decoding or anything

its the player software that decodes and plays the media, 4k or 1080p

FWIW this bit (and most of the extended convo around it) is entirely false. There is a hard, physical, difference between standard blu-ray and 4k blu-ray.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray

The capacity per layer is higher, and the length of each pit in the layer is shorter.

Players are hardware compatible, and a 4K hardware player is needed for a 4K specific disc.

Now, there could be a debate over why such discs are needed, as the total max capacity is still 100GB for either disk type. My guess without digging too deeply is bitrate, as you can store more per layer on the 4k options.

But I do know, from first hand experience with a PC BR Drive that is it *not* able to read the higher 4K discs and there is no firmware change to make that happen that will ever even be possible.


@OP - If you actually plan to make use of it, yes, a BR drive on a PC is def worth it. Much better quality. Also useful if you archive your media and want copies nicer than DVD, and desire local copies that are better quality than streaming.