hello everyone i want to ask, is it fine when your cpu getting temp at 80-86c and the gpu below 78c while gaming on laptop?

[Yukii]

laptop specification: AMD Ryzen 5 5600h with integrated graphics (Radeon Vega 7) 8gb ram single channel

[Mad Scientist]

Depending on what you're doing thats nearly max temp as they note 90c as the limit. But as usual, keeping parts cooler is better.

[metamec]

Depends on the Tjmax, which as Mad Scientist says is 90°C for this CPU:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-5600

Personally I try to keep at least 10°C buffer between maximum temp under stress and Tjmax.

To be honest it's been so long since since I got anywhere close that I'd probably be needlessly panicked even if there was a 10°C difference. 😅

[Yukii]

anyway this proc have tjmax at 105c when i see that in the offician amd website, and its not a desktop cpu but mobile cpu

[_I_]

laptops are generally good for 90-100c
below that is fine

[mtono]

i see no problem. the laptop has security functions. it wont burn, but switch off.
byebye

[metamec]

Ritsu dump. a écrit :

anyway this proc have tjmax at 105c when i see that in the offician amd website, and its not a desktop cpu but mobile cpu

Ah, it would be the AMD Ryzen 5 5600H I guess:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-5600h

In which case, yeah, you are right. 105°C. I wouldn't be too worried about 86°C in that case.

[Pepe]

You're fine. Even if it reaches the max operating temps, it won't fry out. Modern laptops have throttling mechanisms that would make the motherboard pump less power into the CPU, thus producing less heat, keeping it below the actual maximum limit that would fry it out. Even if it's not ideal to have a radiator in your lap (it's a lap-top after all), the 86°C is a normal temperature for more demanding tasks in nowadays laptops. Of course, keeping it at a lower temperature is better for the lifespan of the hardware, in general, yet CPUs are one of the most tested and long standing hardware out there. Usually all the other components would die before a CPU does.

If you don't care that much to squeeze the maximum performance of your CPU, and want to cool down the laptop a bit...
1. ... depending on your laptop motherboard and its BIOS/EFI, you could try to:
- undervolt you CPU a little, if it's possible;
- change the PL1, PL2 power states and Tau value (that's the intel naming, but there's a similar one for AMD), PL2 is responsible for "Turbo Boost". Decreasing the wattage for this one should improve the max temperature on your CPU;
2. ... in your operating system, you could set the power settings to balanced rather than performance, when plugged in (usually the default is performance). This will curve down the power states values on the CPU, thus decreasing the CPU temperature;
3. ... alternatively to 1 and 2, you could try finding an AMD software that let's you further customize the power configuration from the OS. I see there is this AMD Ryzen Master software for Windows. You could give it a go;
4. ... if you like a little bit of tinkering, you could try repasting you CPU cooler with a good thermal paste (e.g. Noctua NT-H2). Sometimes, the factory paste or pads are not optimal, but it depends on the producer and the laptop model. Check the web if other owners have tried it and they have seen any differences. I'd say this option is not worth if you still have the laptop under warranty. Anyway, the idea here is that a good thermal paste would transfer the heat faster to the radiator, thus decreasing the CPU temperature;
5. ... a laptop cooler/stand is a simple way to cool your laptop a few degrees. If money are an issue, rising the bottom of your laptop just one centimetre off the table would still improve the airflow a bit. You can rise the far bottom with whatever you want, the idea is not to add something too big that would cover too much space, two small legs made out of anything is enough: rubber plugs, plastic bottle caps, those kind of fat paper clips, laundry clips, pencils, erasers. Here the logic is that, even if the laptop's thermal design is to suck up fresh air from beneath or blow it out (never heard of it, but who knows, some blow air on the sides, still near the table), eventually, it heats up the desk underneath. Most desks are made out of plastic, wood, glass, those are all insulating materials they don't dissipate heat, eventually they will become hotter than normal. The laptop is hot, the desk is hot under the laptop, so the little air between the laptop and the table is hotter than the normal room temperature. By raising the laptop just a little bit you let a much larger volume of air to circulate between the laptop and the desk, so it won't heat up as much, thus the air taken in by the laptop will be cooler, so it's able to cool down the system better.

[_I_]

Rexali_ a écrit :

Be careful with your temperature. Saints Row 2022 increased my temperature badly and shut down my PC every hour, but every time I turned on my PC and started the game again, that game almost damaged my power supply.

Now, after playing it for 100 hours, there are some other games (not every game) that turn off my PC every 10 minutes, like Shadow Gambit and AEW: Fight Forever. while they were running fine before.

I should buy a new power supply, but since I want to buy a new PC in the near future, it isn't worth it, so I have to wait until I buy a new machine and then continue those games. You definitely need to add some cooling pads if your power supply isn't damaged yet.

if its shutting off, then its a bad psu
cpu/gpu will throttle when hot, before any damage is done
it may crash driver/game if its overheating and throttling

[r.linder]

Laptop temperatures are normally higher, and often have a limit of around 100 degrees because they have much lower power draw than desktop processors, so there's less of a risk of damage at higher temperatures.

[Yukii]

Rexali_ a écrit :

Be careful with your temperature. Saints Row 2022 increased my temperature badly and shut down my PC every hour, but every time I ignored this issue, turned on my PC, and started the game again, that game almost damaged my power supply.

Now, after playing it for 100 hours, there are some other games (not every game) that turn off my PC every 10 minutes, like Shadow Gambit and AEW: Fight Forever. while they were running fine before.

I should buy a new power supply, but since I want to buy a new PC in the near future, it isn't worth it, so I have to wait until I buy a new machine and then continue those games to get all the remaining achievements.

You definitely need to add some cooling pads if your power supply isn't damaged yet.

I never tried playing triple A games that recently released in 2019-2023 (except for any mihoyo games and resident evil series) because i know that my laptop can't handle those games, so just for safety i just playing old games like left4dead 2,human fall flat,etc

[Tiberius]

Thats common on laptop

[Yukii]

metamec a écrit :

Ritsu dump. a écrit :

anyway this proc have tjmax at 105c when i see that in the offician amd website, and its not a desktop cpu but mobile cpu

Ah, it would be the AMD Ryzen 5 5600H I guess:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-5600h

In which case, yeah, you are right. 105°C. I wouldn't be too worried about 86°C in that case.

thanks

[_I_]

Rexali_ a écrit :

_I_ a écrit :

cpu/gpu will throttle when hot, before any damage is done

I mentioned the same; it's the power supply if "psu" stands for that.

I have a 750W Green brand of Power-Supply, but I will buy a new PC in the near future, so it's not worth changing it. The game was the problem. I searched in some other Reddit topics, and many people had the same issue: Saints Row 2022 turned off their machines too.

op has laptop
what psu do you have, labeled wattage is meaningless, brand/model/age?

[_I_]

Rexali_ a écrit :

_I_ a écrit :

what psu do you have, brand/model/age?

Man, I wrote exacly the next line, 750W Green brand, My pc is almost 10 years old but I changed it's video card once couple years ago.

all i can find about 'green brand' is they buy and re-label other psus
throw it away and buy a good one