cincinni 26 jan. 2024 às 6:16
Custom windows 11 bypasses TPM?
My PC doesn't have TPM 2.0 or something, I think I am just going to use a custom windows 11.
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ChickenTacos 26 jan. 2024 às 6:17 
Or, good ole Windows 10.

You don't 'need' to upgrade to Windows 11 until October of 2025.

That is when Micro$oft is going to pull the plug on Windows 10 support.
cincinni 26 jan. 2024 às 6:21 
Originalmente postado por ChickenTacos:
Or, good ole Windows 10.

You don't 'need' to upgrade to Windows 11 until October of 2025.

That is when Micro$oft is going to pull the plug on Windows 10 support.
rn I am using my own custom windows 10 cuz the stock clean windows 10 sucks, it is full of crapware, also I wanna upgrade to windows 11 just for the look :) haha.
Krypto 26 jan. 2024 às 6:22 
Or use Linux.
ChickenTacos 26 jan. 2024 às 6:31 
Windows 12 looks much better, but, I can't talk about it, so...
ともり 26 jan. 2024 às 6:36 
Originalmente postado por Krypto:
Or use Linux.
The best choice out of this list,sadly the anticheats are pain to get them working
Crashed 26 jan. 2024 às 6:45 
Originalmente postado por dks:
My PC doesn't have TPM 2.0 or something, I think I am just going to use a custom windows 11.
If TPM 2.0 is your only reason it won't install check your BIOS for support, which may be called Platform Trust Technology (PTT) or fTPM depending on your CPU vendor.
All CPUs designated as supported by Windows 11 have one of these technologies to provide TPM 2.0 support.
If you don't have support at all, instead of downloading a "custom" version of Windows 11 from a sketchy site, just download the official version from the Media Creation Tool then use the program Rufus to create an installation USB that bypasses the requirements.
Raelic 26 jan. 2024 às 6:46 
Is it bad to not have TPM?
Without TPM 2.0, Windows 11 may not be able to properly secure the boot process or data encryption, which could impact the performance and security of the operating system. Additionally, some features and functions of Windows 11 may not work as intended, or may not be available at all, without TPM 2.0.
Última alteração por Raelic; 26 jan. 2024 às 6:48
ChickenTacos 26 jan. 2024 às 6:51 
Originalmente postado por Krypto:
Or use Linux.
Tell us all about the most recent distro, how it is setup, and what it looks like.

:steamlaughter:
ともり 26 jan. 2024 às 6:54 
Originalmente postado por Raelic:
Is it bad to not have TPM?
Without TPM 2.0, Windows 11 may not be able to properly secure the boot process or data encryption, which could impact the performance and security of the operating system. Additionally, some features and functions of Windows 11 may not work as intended, or may not be available at all, without TPM 2.0.
TPM is good for security,and most 2012+ CPUs already have it built in.

But whatever Microsoft doing - locking an OS behind an arbitrary processor generation limit (intel 8th gen minimum - AMD 3rd gen minimum), making their OS harder to navigate and add more unnecessary preloaded crap like Clipchamp and Candy Crush Saga - is anti customer,and bad. I also hate the fact that there are TWO app types for windows since 2012 - Win32 Apps and UWP Apps (no one really used them in 8,so they made bunch of essential apps utilise their god awful UWP framework with 10).

I also don't like Windows 10 for this very same reason. But hey,it's plug and play and that's all I need since my computer is being used by others too,so that sadly leaves Linux out as an option.

Originalmente postado por ChickenTacos:
Originalmente postado por Krypto:
Or use Linux.
Tell us all about the most recent distro, how it is setup, and what it looks like.

:steamlaughter:
Most distros are the same down to the core nowadays,so it's just mostly a preference thing. I like how I can set arch Linux up though so that's my go to distro.
Última alteração por ともり; 26 jan. 2024 às 6:56
Raelic 26 jan. 2024 às 6:58 
Originalmente postado por h@ruhi:
Originalmente postado por Raelic:
Is it bad to not have TPM?
Without TPM 2.0, Windows 11 may not be able to properly secure the boot process or data encryption, which could impact the performance and security of the operating system. Additionally, some features and functions of Windows 11 may not work as intended, or may not be available at all, without TPM 2.0.
TPM is good for security,and most 2012+ CPUs already have it built in.

But whatever Microsoft doing - locking an OS behind an arbitrary processor generation limit (intel 8th gen minimum - AMD 3rd gen minimum), making their OS harder to navigate and add more unnecessary preloaded crap like Clipchamp and Candy Crush Saga - is anti customer,and bad. I also hate the fact that there are TWO app types for windows since 2012 - Win32 Apps and UWP Apps (no one really used them in 8,so they made bunch of essential apps utilise their god awful UWP framework with 10).

I also don't like Windows 10 for this very same reason. But hey,it's plug and play and that's all I need since my computer is being used by others too,so that sadly leaves Linux out as an option.

Originalmente postado por ChickenTacos:
Tell us all about the most recent distro, how it is setup, and what it looks like.

:steamlaughter:
Most distros are the same down to the core nowadays,so it's just mostly a preference thing. I like how I can set arch Linux up though so that's my go to distro.
None of your spiel matters. TPM 2.0 is for security and Windows 11 uses it. Without it, you'll be less secure.

That's all that matters.
ともり 26 jan. 2024 às 7:00 
Originalmente postado por Raelic:
Originalmente postado por h@ruhi:
TPM is good for security,and most 2012+ CPUs already have it built in.

But whatever Microsoft doing - locking an OS behind an arbitrary processor generation limit (intel 8th gen minimum - AMD 3rd gen minimum), making their OS harder to navigate and add more unnecessary preloaded crap like Clipchamp and Candy Crush Saga - is anti customer,and bad. I also hate the fact that there are TWO app types for windows since 2012 - Win32 Apps and UWP Apps (no one really used them in 8,so they made bunch of essential apps utilise their god awful UWP framework with 10).

I also don't like Windows 10 for this very same reason. But hey,it's plug and play and that's all I need since my computer is being used by others too,so that sadly leaves Linux out as an option.


Most distros are the same down to the core nowadays,so it's just mostly a preference thing. I like how I can set arch Linux up though so that's my go to distro.
None of your spiel matters. TPM 2.0 is for security and Windows 11 uses it. Without it, you'll be less secure.

That's all that matters.
So does Linux and Windows 10 utilizes TPM 2.0. TPM 2.0 Standard existed since the early 2010s,it's not something new and most CPUs since 2015 already has it built in. (Look up fTPM (firmware TPM))

That makes Windows 11 better... How exactly?

On Windows - TPM is supported since Windows 7 - it's not something new.
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/trusted-platform-module-TPM

When TPM 2.0 was invented - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module
In 2014
And earlier versions were as early as 2009, although TPM baked into CPUs only started to become common in 2015-2016.
Última alteração por ともり; 26 jan. 2024 às 7:03
cincinni 26 jan. 2024 às 7:02 
Originalmente postado por Raelic:
Originalmente postado por h@ruhi:
TPM is good for security,and most 2012+ CPUs already have it built in.

But whatever Microsoft doing - locking an OS behind an arbitrary processor generation limit (intel 8th gen minimum - AMD 3rd gen minimum), making their OS harder to navigate and add more unnecessary preloaded crap like Clipchamp and Candy Crush Saga - is anti customer,and bad. I also hate the fact that there are TWO app types for windows since 2012 - Win32 Apps and UWP Apps (no one really used them in 8,so they made bunch of essential apps utilise their god awful UWP framework with 10).

I also don't like Windows 10 for this very same reason. But hey,it's plug and play and that's all I need since my computer is being used by others too,so that sadly leaves Linux out as an option.


Most distros are the same down to the core nowadays,so it's just mostly a preference thing. I like how I can set arch Linux up though so that's my go to distro.
None of your spiel matters. TPM 2.0 is for security and Windows 11 uses it. Without it, you'll be less secure.

That's all that matters.
Less secure lol. I haven't use antivirus since 2018, I also run windows 7 before without an av, I don't even use TPM, nothing really happens, idc. about the TPM, it is just their way to raise their standard.
Última alteração por cincinni; 26 jan. 2024 às 7:03
ともり 26 jan. 2024 às 7:08 
Originalmente postado por dks:
Originalmente postado por Raelic:
None of your spiel matters. TPM 2.0 is for security and Windows 11 uses it. Without it, you'll be less secure.

That's all that matters.
Less secure lol. I haven't use antivirus since 2018, I also run windows 7 before without an av, I don't even use TPM, nothing really happens, idc. about the TPM, it is just their way to raise their standard.
"Nothing really happens"
Vulernable Windows 7 systems can get easily hacked as Windows 7 no longer receives security updates since 2020.

Just one of the many articles,showing why staying on an up to date system is important if you're connected to the internet.

https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/windows-7-industrial-hack-Oldsmar/595362/
Krypto 26 jan. 2024 às 7:15 
Originalmente postado por ChickenTacos:
Originalmente postado por Krypto:
Or use Linux.
Tell us all about the most recent distro, how it is setup, and what it looks like.

:steamlaughter:

Mint? I suppose it's very minty.
Crashed 26 jan. 2024 às 10:33 
Originalmente postado por dks:
Originalmente postado por Raelic:
None of your spiel matters. TPM 2.0 is for security and Windows 11 uses it. Without it, you'll be less secure.

That's all that matters.
Less secure lol. I haven't use antivirus since 2018, I also run windows 7 before without an av, I don't even use TPM, nothing really happens, idc. about the TPM, it is just their way to raise their standard.
What is your CPU? That is something that hasn't been mentioned in this thread.
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