Buying a new PC

[deadshot$$]

I want your opinion on these specs

Allied Patriot 6-Fan RGB Gaming PC Case
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 | 4.2GHz | 6 Core 12 Thread Processor
Allied Sidewinder [180W] ARGB 120mm Air Cooler
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 12GB Graphics Card
AMD B550 [M-ATX] Motherboard
RGB 16GB [3200MHz] DDR4 RAM
1TB Gen 4 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
650W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply
Allied Premium White Sleeved Cable Kit
AX1800 (1800Mbps) Dual-Band USB Wi-Fi 6 Adapter

Are they good for games like the Last Of Us Part 1, Cyberpunk 2077 and Elden Ring at the highest possible graphics at 1080p?

What will be my estimated FPS in each game?

[emoticorpse]

What resolution/hz you playing at? What you plan on paying for all that?

[ugafan]

If I were starting from scratch, I would go with an am5 motherboard and 7000 series processor.

[emoticorpse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WvtVdBufjs

[ugafan]

Publicado originalmente por Saveer Singh:

What do you mean by starting from scratch?

I’ve bought a gaming PC before but the parts were not chosen by me.

I mean that I would only buy a Ryzen 5000 series processor as an upgrade to place in a motherboard I already have. If I were to buy an entirely new computer, I would get the newer Ryzen 7000 series processor.

If you've already purchased this PC and would like to know about the performance in different games, your best bet is to check out videos on Youtube with people playing the games with a 4070. Like the one posted by emoticorpse.

[󠁳⁧⁧ boii]

i would wait for the SUPER series of the graphics cards tbh.
even if you dont get them(ye, dont focus on price, but..)

[emoticorpse]

Publicado originalmente por Saveer Singh:

Thank you for the video!

Would anyone still know how long this PC will last for playing the newest games at 1080p in the highest possible settings?

It's a wild guess, but my guess is three years.

[emoticorpse]

Publicado originalmente por Saveer Singh:

Should I maybe spend a little bit more for a longer lasting PC?

Or should I wait for the SUPER series?

This is a built PC and it costs 2.5k

Not really possible. Spending a little more really won't get you much longer lasting pc. Spending a lot more might, but even then is it worth it for a 4090 which still won't keep you relevant too much longer, especially when you're at 1080p and you see newer generations come out and you just want something newer anyways.

Pretty much why the only thing people do is build one they know is good enough for right now and plan on upgrading later on in a couple years to the product that isn't out and available at the moment.

What you can do is try to "cheat" yourself into relevancy by using DLSS and FSR and stuff like that. Might help out.

This is how I see it at the moment.

[C1REX]

Publicado originalmente por Saveer Singh:

Thank you for the video!

Would anyone still know how long this PC will last for playing the newest games at 1080p in the highest possible settings?

The CPU and GPU are stronger than the PS5, so they should comfortably last you until the PS6 launch, especially for 60fps gaming. This could be around 4 years. The 5070 may launch this year, pushing system requirements higher. Then, expect the 6070 in 2026 and the 7070 in 2028. New GPUs will continue to push requirements higher, but the PS6 will make the biggest difference, similar to how the PS4 and PS5 did, especially if it has more VRAM.

[C1REX]

Publicado originalmente por emoticorpse:

Should I maybe spend a little bit more for a longer lasting PC?

Or should I wait for the SUPER series?

This is a built PC and it costs 2.5k

Future proofing is often a trap.
The most cost efficient is to buy a mid tier sweet spot and keep the saved money ready for a 5070 or 6070 or whatever upgrade will be a good value.

[C1REX]

Publicado originalmente por Saveer Singh:

How would it be good to upgrade in the future if my other parts are older?

Or would it only be good to upgrade around 2 years after I get my PC?

The GPU is the core of a gaming PC. If other parts don't bottleneck it, then you're fine. All parts become outdated in 1-2 years. The 4070 was just replaced by the 4070 Super, which may potentially be replaced by the 5070 in less than a year. You could opt for the 14900 + 4090, which would last a bit longer, but it would cost significantly more than an upgrade further down the road.

[Mathius]

Publicado originalmente por C1REX:

The GPU is the core of a gaming PC. If other parts don't bottleneck it, then you're fine. All parts become outdated in 1-2 years. The 4070 was just replaced by the 4070 Super, which may potentially be replaced by the 5070 in less than a year. You could opt for the 14900 + 4090, which would last a bit longer, but it would cost significantly more than an upgrade further down the road.

I'm not trying to hijack his thread, but I keep hearing the 14900 runs very hot and should be water cooled. Thoughts? I'd like to avoid water cooling, personally.

[Wampum Biskit]

Publicado originalmente por Mathius:

I'd like to avoid water cooling, personally.

why ? , just genuinely curious...

[kiwikev]

Here is 1 NZ site that you can check out and see if you could save some cash if you built it yourself : https://www.pbtech.co.nz/

[Zef]

If you're going to stay on AM4 at least get a 5600X3D - 5800X3D.

Also that 4070 only has 12Gb Vram, i'd go for a 7800 XT that outperforms it in most scenarios and has more Vram to boot.

[Zef]

Publicado originalmente por Wampum Biskit:

Publicado originalmente por Mathius:

I'd like to avoid water cooling, personally.

why ? , just genuinely curious...

For 95% of gamers it's not worth the hassle when a high end air cooling block from Noctua can do the same job with same temperature output's compared to AIO.

Personally, i like air coolers because they are more reliable and easier to fix (change fan) then AIO, especially if you only build a (gaming) pc every +6 years or so.

The only downside of air coolers that can compete with AIO is the size, they are chunky boys leaving you not much clearance to work with sometimes.