Gtx970 against a pcie gen 2

[Dustifier]

Will there be any restrictions to putting a gts 970 msi in a pcie gen 2 slot? its 1x16

[_I_]

as long as its not used in sli (2.0 x8) it will be fine

what cpu/mobo do you have?

[Dustifier]

Originally posted by _I_:

as long as its not used in sli (2.0 x8) it will be fine

what cpu/mobo do you have?

Its not my setup its a friend of mine
He has
i5 2500
4 g ram
Gtx 560

And hes upgrading to a
I5 2500
8 gb ram
Gtx 970

his motherboard is a msi
H61MU-E35 (B3)

[_I_]

thatll be just fine

[Dustifier]

Originally posted by _I_:

thatll be just fine

Thanks, its be a big jump for him, a 60 all the way to a 970

[Azza ☠]

Put very simple:
•PCI-Express 1.1 sends 250 MB/s per direction
•PCI-Express 2.0 sends 500 MB/s per direction
•PCI-Express 3.0 doubles again to 1 GB/s per direction

Then you have multiple lanes: 2x, 4x, 8x, or 16x PCI-E...

Therefore 16x PCI-Express 2.0 would be 500 x 16 = 8,000MB (8GB/s)

More than enough and will not saturated by a single very high-end graphics card. It's not until SLI (multiple graphics cards), if the motherboard shares lanes (halving them) between PCI-e slots (8x | 8x | 4x | 2x), that it might start to bottleneck.

[initiaLiSeD]

Not a problem, I have one running fine on this board: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3571#ov

Here's some PCI-E scaling data for the GTX 980, Fury-X, GTX 680 and 7970:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/21.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X_PCI-Express_Scaling/18.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

99% for 16x 2.0, really, don't worry about it, it's still not a limiting factor.

[Dustifier]

Originally posted by initiaLiSeD:

Not a problem, I have one running fine on this board: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3571#ov

Here's some PCI-E scaling data for the GTX 980, Fury-X, GTX 680 and 7970:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/21.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X_PCI-Express_Scaling/18.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

99% for 16x 2.0, really, don't worry about it, it's still not a limiting factor.

Great,
i myself am the rpud owner of these specs
Gtx 980 ti msi
I5 4690k
16 ram
so i dont think i need to upgrade any time soon. Thanks for the help tough :)

[Dustifier]

Originally posted by initiaLiSeD:

Not a problem, I have one running fine on this board: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3571#ov

Here's some PCI-E scaling data for the GTX 980, Fury-X, GTX 680 and 7970:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/21.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X_PCI-Express_Scaling/18.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

99% for 16x 2.0, really, don't worry about it, it's still not a limiting factor.

Got 2 ask how do you release the GPU from its slot? My friend is totally green when it comes to pc. So im going to instal the new parts. Only trouble is that the lock aint a butterfly lock just a little plastick thingy. Do i bend it upwards or?

[_I_]

the mobo has a finger to hold the back of the gpu in the socket

move pull it tward the cpu
https://asset.msi.com/resize/image/global/product/five_pictures1_2307_20110218120021.jpg62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/1024.png

[Dustifier]

Originally posted by _I_:

the mobo has a finger to hold the back of the gpu in the socket

move pull it tward the cpu
https://asset.msi.com/resize/image/global/product/five_pictures1_2307_20110218120021.jpg62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/1024.png

Ty :)

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

Put very simple:
•PCI-Express 1.1 sends 250 MB/s per direction
•PCI-Express 2.0 sends 500 MB/s per direction
•PCI-Express 3.0 doubles again to 1 GB/s per direction

Then you have multiple lanes: 2x, 4x, 8x, or 16x PCI-E...

Therefore 16x PCI-Express 2.0 would be 500 x 16 = 8,000MB (8GB/s)

More than enough and will not saturated by a single very high-end graphics card. It's not until SLI (multiple graphics cards), if the motherboard shares lanes (halving them) between PCI-e slots (8x | 8x | 4x | 2x), that it might start to bottleneck.

^ This, My 980 Ti doesn't use enough bandwith to max out PCI-E 2.0. It's really nothing to worry about.

[hawkeye]

There is a vid on youtube of pcie 1 vs 2 vs 3 benchmarks. There isn't much difference, less than 5%.

[_I_]

the only real advantage of pci-e x16 3.0 is for mobos that divide the lanes for sli/cfx
x8 3.0 for each in sli/cfx is more than enough for current gpus

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes even on PCIE 2.xx specs Mobo; going from an old GTX 560 that can't run games well @ 1080p; any GTX 970 will be a HUGE step up for your gaming.

In SLI though; you should have PCIE 3.xx Mobo so bandwidth can be utilized properly and not bottleneck.

[Dustifier]

Originally posted by Bad-Motha:

Yes even on PCIE 2.xx specs Mobo; going from an old GTX 560 that can't run games well @ 1080p; any GTX 970 will be a HUGE step up for your gaming.

In SLI though; you should have PCIE 3.xx Mobo so bandwidth can be utilized properly and not bottleneck.

Yeah, he said that upgrading the ram and pu cooler was good eniugh for now, so when switiching vores from 2500 roo 4690 is something he will do in the future, or maybe go for skylake