Is it safe to always overclock my GTX 1650 with ASUS GPU TweakII ?

[cate]

I recently upgraded a GT730 to a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650. The box containing the GPU had a disk which let me install some stuff. One thing from the installs was 'ASUS GPU TweakII'.

-There's different premade profiles for the setting of the GPU, notably one being 'OC (overclocked).

I'm wondering if it's a good idea to keep this enabled (overclocked) 24/7? Or should I only use it when playing intense games? In fact, should I ever use it?
My computer isn't too great, and it's an old pre made one which has upgraded parts.

CPU: Intel Celeron G1840
Motherboard: H81M-DS2
RAM: 8gb
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650

[DarthSidious666]

I have an Aorus 1070ti and keep the OC profile on all the time. It helps with all games.
It's a manufacturer safe OC so it's much safer to use than a user made one.

[cate]

Originally posted by DarthSidious666:

I have an Aorus 1070ti and keep the OC profile on all the time. It helps with all games.
It's a manufacturer safe OC so it's much safer to use than a user made one.

Alright, thanks, and is it fine to always have it on? I'm concerned it'd wear significantly faster and or cause problems with the computer in general (hardware)

[DarthSidious666]

Yes it's absolutely fine, I've had mine running since day one of my computer build which is about a year or 2 old now.

The only issues I've had is drivers but that's completely separate.

[Porky Pig]

Won't that CPU bottleneck the GPU?

[Dryspace]

Honestly, I don't think NVIDIA's current cards are capable of overclocking much at all. I'd be surprised if you even managed a 5% increase. They're actually designed to clock as high as possible when necessary, and clock down when utilization is low.

But yeah, it's safe to use the profiles that came with your GPU. You could probably use the card for 10+ years, but you'll be upgrading it long before that.

[DarthSidious666]

Entirely depends on whether it's aftermarket or not and whether it's been 'binned'.
I was lucky to get a non-binned card which means it's not locked and can be OC'd well.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Theres no point overclocking that GPU when the CPU is so weak, the GPU is already much stronger than the CPU.
But yes, its safe for the GPU to keep an OC

[cate]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Theres no point overclocking that GPU when the CPU is so weak, the GPU is already much stronger than the CPU.
But yes, its safe for the GPU to keep an OC

Alright cheers, and how does the CPU bottleneck the GPU? Does the CPU receive all orders and gives some to the GPU?

[r.linder]

Originally posted by cate:

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Theres no point overclocking that GPU when the CPU is so weak, the GPU is already much stronger than the CPU.
But yes, its safe for the GPU to keep an OC

Alright cheers, and how does the CPU bottleneck the GPU? Does the CPU receive all orders and gives some to the GPU?

In basic terms, CPU is responsible for preparing the frames for the GPU to render. If your CPU is slower, problems like stuttering and FPS will be pretty disappointing in comparison to another build with a faster CPU but the same GPU.

Also, more games these days are becoming more multi-threaded, so older CPUs with less than 6 cores are at a disadvantage in those particular games. Dual cores are no longer viable for many modern games, and quad core CPUs without Intel hyperthreading or AMD simultaneous multi-threading (aka 4C/4T) can have a hard time in some games as well.

No matter what you do, that celeron will hold you back and there's nothing on that socket and board really worth upgrading to because it'll be rendered obsolete long before you'd want to upgrade again anyway.

[cate]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by cate:

Alright cheers, and how does the CPU bottleneck the GPU? Does the CPU receive all orders and gives some to the GPU?

In basic terms, CPU is responsible for preparing the frames for the GPU to render. If your CPU is slower, problems like stuttering and FPS will be pretty disappointing in comparison to another build with a faster CPU but the same GPU.

Also, more games these days are becoming more multi-threaded, so older CPUs with less than 6 cores are at a disadvantage in those particular games. Dual cores are no longer viable for many modern games, and quad core CPUs without Intel hyperthreading or AMD simultaneous multi-threading (aka 4C/4T) can have a hard time in some games as well.

No matter what you do, that celeron will hold you back and there's nothing on that socket and board really worth upgrading to because it'll be rendered obsolete long before you'd want to upgrade again anyway.

Alright thanks, and what do you mean by upgrading a 'socket and board'? It sounds like for my next birthday I'll buy myself a good pricey CPU, but would that mean I need to upgrade some other bits of hardware?
Like, what would be stuff on the 'socket and board' I could upgrade that'd be a bad idea? And to resolve my issue I'd buy a completely new CPU?
Anyways, I really appreciate your response!

[r.linder]

Originally posted by cate:

Originally posted by Escorve:

In basic terms, CPU is responsible for preparing the frames for the GPU to render. If your CPU is slower, problems like stuttering and FPS will be pretty disappointing in comparison to another build with a faster CPU but the same GPU.

Also, more games these days are becoming more multi-threaded, so older CPUs with less than 6 cores are at a disadvantage in those particular games. Dual cores are no longer viable for many modern games, and quad core CPUs without Intel hyperthreading or AMD simultaneous multi-threading (aka 4C/4T) can have a hard time in some games as well.

No matter what you do, that celeron will hold you back and there's nothing on that socket and board really worth upgrading to because it'll be rendered obsolete long before you'd want to upgrade again anyway.

Alright thanks, and what do you mean by upgrading a 'socket and board'? It sounds like for my next birthday I'll buy myself a good pricey CPU, but would that mean I need to upgrade some other bits of hardware?
Like, what would be stuff on the 'socket and board' I could upgrade that'd be a bad idea? And to resolve my issue I'd buy a completely new CPU?
Anyways, I really appreciate your response!

Basically just talking about the socket on the motherboard. Your socket is LGA1150, current standard is LGA1151, but 10th gen is LGA1200.
AMD's current standard is socket AM4.

There's other sockets for HEDT CPUs like Threadripper that are pretty niche due to price.

[cate]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Basically just talking about the socket on the motherboard. Your socket is LGA1150, current standard is LGA1151, but 10th gen is LGA1200.
AMD's current standard is socket AM4.

There's other sockets for HEDT CPUs like Threadripper that are pretty niche due to price.

Ah right thanks, I was thinking a CPU as both the motherboard and CPU.
So it sounds like my motherboard is old and should be upgraded for compatibility with newer stuff? (or maybe it's to enhance all those weird dots and lines on the motherboard?), and I really should get my CPU upgraded so I can get the potential outta my GPU? Again, thank you so much for going through this with me

[r.linder]

Originally posted by cate:

Originally posted by Escorve:

Basically just talking about the socket on the motherboard. Your socket is LGA1150, current standard is LGA1151, but 10th gen is LGA1200.
AMD's current standard is socket AM4.

There's other sockets for HEDT CPUs like Threadripper that are pretty niche due to price.

Ah right thanks, I was thinking a CPU as both the motherboard and CPU.
So it sounds like my motherboard is old and should be upgraded for compatibility with newer stuff? (or maybe it's to enhance all those weird dots and lines on the motherboard?), and I really should get my CPU upgraded so I can get the potential outta my GPU? Again, thank you so much for going through this with me

Best value in 2019~2020 is the Ryzen 5 3600 on B450 Tomahawk MAX with 3200 MHz RAM. (Though B450 ends with Ryzen 3000 series, 4000 series won't be supported so the max B450 will support is a 3950X, though logically the max one should throw on a B450 is a 3800X because Ryzen 9 needs serious VRM)

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Best value in 2019~2020 is the Ryzen 5 3600 on B450 Tomahawk MAX with 3200 MHz RAM.

You know, after reading about the hardware in the X Series console, I'm not at all certain that CPU assumptions we've had for over a decade will continue to be valid.

The main reason is that the X Series is supposed to have a CPU that is four times the power of the XBox One. While that still doesn't match the raw power of a 4770K, my point is that, even with the complete lack of PC-focused coding and optimization, we've been able to rely on the fact that our CPUs are 5+ times more powerful than a console in order to get 60 fps, or even 120+.

A huge jump in console CPU power, combined with a lack of PC architecture-specific coding and optimization, could have some distasteful ramifications. My 4770K for example, may suddenly barely do 30 fps at any resolution. It could require ~2.5 times the power of a 4770K for enough overhead just to expect 60 fps.

What are your thoughts?

[cate]

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Originally posted by Escorve:

Best value in 2019~2020 is the Ryzen 5 3600 on B450 Tomahawk MAX with 3200 MHz RAM.

You know, after reading about the hardware in the X Series console, I'm not at all certain that CPU assumptions we've had for over a decade will continue to be valid.

The main reason is that the X Series is supposed to have a CPU that is four times the power of the XBox One. While that still doesn't match the raw power of a 4770K, my point is that, even with the complete lack of PC-focused coding and optimization, we've been able to rely on the fact that our CPUs are 5+ times more powerful than a console in order to get 60 fps, or even 120+.

A huge jump in console CPU power, combined with a lack of PC architecture-specific coding and optimization, could have some distasteful ramifications. My 4770K for example, may suddenly barely do 30 fps at any resolution. It could require ~2.5 times the power of a 4770K for enough overhead just to expect 60 fps.

What are your thoughts?

CPUs aren't optimised for computers? That makes no sense to me, I'd think the main market is pc users. And CPUs are very important pieces of hardware, so there's good money to be made in making a pc specific CPU