I'm looking at a mid range laptop

[Da Killa]

Something that will play Skyrim Oblivion, a few older games not big games. I was looking into this setup:
Intel(R) UHD Graphics
8GB Ram
1TB SSD
12th Gen Core i7-1255U Quad-Core, 8GB

It's a Gateway touchscreen laptop. Thanks!

[MonkehMaster]

just buy what you can afford or feel comfortable spending the money on, thats your best answer.

edit: and with the comments below, you can see what i meant.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

1 those specs are very low end.
**no dedicated gpu
**only 8gb of ram in an era, no laptop should be sold without 32gb

but than again skyrim and oblivion are decade old games.

even so.. you likely will want a laptop with at least a dedicated gpu..
that embedded cpu has only halve the grafic power of an gtx 1050.. if even that.

that means at 1080p it likely gets 20-25fps at best.
which I would not call considerable nice

ofcourse the older the games the less that is an issue

something like an 3050 or 1650 build in.. will likely run skyrim much smoother.
you don't need a massively powerfull gpu to get 60fps in skyrim.. but you do want something more than embedded gpu.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Let's hope they aren't into modding.. if they try and throw a lot of mods on older games like that then the system requirements go up exponentially. They might end up with a nice laptop that can run the vanilla game fine but then load mods and cause it to slow to a crawl.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Da Killa:

Something that will play Skyrim Oblivion, a few older games not big games. I was looking into this setup:
Intel(R) UHD Graphics
8GB Ram
1TB SSD
12th Gen Core i7-1255U Quad-Core, 8GB

It's a Gateway touchscreen laptop. Thanks!

No NVIDIA GPU = Don't buy it. Waste of your time and money.
That's just very basic for school/media.

Laptops for Gaming, even under $1000 should have RTX 3070 / 4060, and at least 16GB RAM and at least 1x 1TB SSD

Can get ones with 15 inch 144Hz Display
12th Gen i5 + 16GB DDR5 + RTX 4060
for around $699

[Electric Cupcake]

Midrange means it'll wear out and/or be obsolete in 2-3 years. Since upgrading options are limited, and starting parts aren't usually very good to begin with, a laptop is one thing you want to splurge for the best SKU available if you want it to remain usable for a reasonable period.

That's why I support Framework and Sager. Pretty pricy, but an easily-replaceable battery alone makes it worth it.

Also, touchscreens are pretty useless unless it's a 2 in 1 convertible.

[Talby]

not sure what the exact budget is, so...

extreme budget:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YKDYWK5?th=1
$382 - ryzen 5 5500u / 8g ram / 256g ssd / 14" FHD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKDPC4V6/?th=1
$479 - ryzen 5 5500u / 16g ram / 1tb ssd / 15.6" FHD

mid-range:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B7D19CDC?th=1
$585 - i5-11400H, RTX 3050, 16G RAM, 512G SSD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSLWGFXD?th=1
$798 - i5-12500H | RTX 3050 Ti | 15.6" FHD 144Hz IPS | 16GB DDR4 | 512GB Gen 4 SSD

I am still using my old i5-8400H / 1050ti / 16g ram / 128g ssd + 1Tb hdd for very similar use, still going strong just needed a new fan + battery...

[De Hollandse Ezel]

personally i must say i do hate that all laptops have gotten thin and small these days btw.

i found my old 17.4 inch laptop in 2008 already to small.
not minded its 4.5 kg could easely have lived with 8-10kg if that boosted its size.

15 inch is baby screen.. gaming laptops wouldbe 8cm thick to haver the proper cooling amd battery to handle things likrly with double removable batteries.. and be 6-9 kg heavy.
and 21 or 23 inch in size..

why no conpagny makes gamimg laptops like that anymore.. is stupid.

i much rather have an 8kg 8cm thick 23 imch laptop to properly game on.

than rhose 12mm thinbooks with idiotioc 15"screens that are smaller than i gamed on in freaking 1986..

15 inch has no right to be called "gaming laptop" who is going to game on such a small screen?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

personally i must say i do hate that all laptops have gotten thin and small these days btw.

i found my old 17.4 inch laptop in 2008 already to small.
not minded its 4.5 kg could easely have lived with 8-10kg if that boosted its size.

15 inch is baby screen.. gaming laptops wouldbe 8cm thick to haver the proper cooling amd battery to handle things likrly with double removable batteries.. and be 6-9 kg heavy.
and 21 or 23 inch in size..

why no conpagny makes gamimg laptops like that anymore.. is stupid.

i much rather have an 8kg 8cm thick 23 imch laptop to properly game on.

than rhose 12mm thinbooks with idiotioc 15"screens that are smaller than i gamed on in freaking 1986..

15 inch has no right to be called "gaming laptop" who is going to game on such a small screen?

Everything about a Laptop is all about On-The-Go.

You are always free to hookup external keyboard, mouse, game controller, display(s)

It be rather ridiculous to have Laptops larger then 17 or 18 inches

IMHO, who the hell games on the screen the Laptop comes with? Very very rarely do I do that. Why? Because I hook up to external everything; screen, keyboard, mouse, game controller; etc. It makes perfect sense to do that.

[SlowClick]

I was happy playing Half Life on a 13" lappy.

[Da Killa]

Thanks for the feedback. Any thoughts on this laptop?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CC2NMQJW/?coliid=I3C6T2Z7V5KQP7&colid=181BCQFZW76SI&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

ryzen 5 2500u wont do skyrim or new battlefront 2, or battlefield 1just fyi

it will play tekken 7, warthunder, stuff like that on low

cost $150-175 used on ebay

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Even midrange Laptops under $600 have Ryzen 7xxx apus now. Don't go buying stuff older then approx 2020/2021. It won't be good for Win11. When you get the Laptop go make the latest version of Win11 usb flash drive. Then wipe the laptop drive clean and do a clean install of Win11. Before you do, enter the bios and disable WIFI ans BT until after the OS is installed. During Win11 install choose an EU country so you will then have options after the install completes to uninstall things like Edge and OneDrive

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Even midrange Laptops under $600 have Ryzen 7xxx apus now. Don't go buying stuff older then approx 2020/2021. It won't be good for Win11. When you get the Laptop go make the latest version of Win11 usb flash drive. Then wipe the laptop drive clean and do a clean install of Win11. Before you do, enter the bios and disable WIFI ans BT until after the OS is installed. During Win11 install choose an EU country so you will then have options after the install completes to uninstall things like Edge and OneDrive

The country thing really works? I didn't even think about that. Brilliant. I'll have to test this in a virtual machine later.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Even midrange Laptops under $600 have Ryzen 7xxx apus now. Don't go buying stuff older then approx 2020/2021. It won't be good for Win11. When you get the Laptop go make the latest version of Win11 usb flash drive. Then wipe the laptop drive clean and do a clean install of Win11. Before you do, enter the bios and disable WIFI ans BT until after the OS is installed. During Win11 install choose an EU country so you will then have options after the install completes to uninstall things like Edge and OneDrive

win 11 runs fine on older hardware.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Even midrange Laptops under $600 have Ryzen 7xxx apus now. Don't go buying stuff older then approx 2020/2021. It won't be good for Win11. When you get the Laptop go make the latest version of Win11 usb flash drive. Then wipe the laptop drive clean and do a clean install of Win11. Before you do, enter the bios and disable WIFI ans BT until after the OS is installed. During Win11 install choose an EU country so you will then have options after the install completes to uninstall things like Edge and OneDrive

The country thing really works? I didn't even think about that. Brilliant. I'll have to test this in a virtual machine later.

Yes it does. Due to.new EU laws that Microsoft was forced to abide with with Win11 23H2 and later. It doesn't work on Win10 though but if you need a clean install of that, it's not that hard to disable stuff.


Once Win11 is installed do all the Windows Updates and Microsoft Store app library updates first. Reboot when done, then install web browser of choice and make it default, then uninstall things like Edge and OneDrive. Once the bloatware is Uninstalled and you've rebooted again, then change Country and TimeZone to what you really want it to be.