De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 3시 47분
so steam likes to loose halve a billion in revenue a year.
there are 120 million active users.
about 1% of those still use windows 7 thats 1.2 million.

i as one of those spend easely 400 euro a year on steam on average.
last 6 years it be more like 600 euro a year.

400 euro x 1.2 million users is well over half a billion usd

because steam drops win 7 support without providing the common decency of creating a way forcwin 7 users to install and launch theit games under windows 7 as they should

i and many lile me vow to never spend a cent on steam anymore.

you rotten drm service when added to fysical copies
robbed me of the right to 2dhand trade and obtain games after they are no longer for salle in store
to launch more than 1 game I own at the same time
and heavely reduced my right of return..

but to turn games in perishable goods is where i draw the line..
that is the one that truelly is unforgivable!
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Shaggy 2023년 12월 15일 오후 3시 49분 
It is time to upgrade your potato.
emoticorpse 2023년 12월 15일 오후 3시 55분 
I suck at math
Oz Gaming 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 02분 
Windows 7 is Old, Outdated and Unsupported By Microsoft. You need to come and live in 2023 not in the Past. As stated above you need to go and read what you signed up for when you created your Steam account. Steam can legally drop support for any Old outdated operating system any time they want. Nothing you or anybody else can do about it.
C1REX 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 05분 
Steam wouldn't have dropped Windows 7 support if it had been profitable for them.
It was likely costing them too much.
De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 10분 
Shaggy님이 먼저 게시:
It is time to upgrade your potato.

i own a freakinf ufo.. not a potaro.
128gb ram 2080ti.. 1600 euro cpu..

whole system waswell over 7000 euro
and to build something with equal performance today still will cost 3500 euro.

i can run win 10 fine.
i can run win 11 fine.
i paid good money to stick with windows 7 prefered paying 300 euro to obtain win 7 over spenfing 10 euro on win 10.. put in much work to prevent it from upsaring to win 10.

i really hate win 10 and not want it.
thats not the issue

the issue is : not all my games will run on win 10
and those that do wont run on windows 12 or 13 when steam deciedes to drop ein 1p or 11 support too..

you are are an idiot if you dont see that and still buy games with steam.

this involves ALL even those on win 10 or 11.

steam is not the saviour of pc gaming it is the arch enemy! steam must go bankrupt! users must stop funding corps with practices like this.

I for one wont be handing them anything anymore.
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De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 18분 
C1REX님이 먼저 게시:
Steam wouldn't have dropped Windows 7 support if it had been profitable for them.
It was likely costing them too much.

no they just greedt bastards.

they are billionaira yet use chrome embedded for steam.
chrome drips?win 7 suppprt and steam just to lazy to do anything about it.

they could have easel6 hired a fed devs to creste a non embedded version pf steam.

they could create some wsy to download .iso on a win 10 system that you than can install and run on an win 7 sysyem in offline mode

i can think of at least 10 other ways how with a bit of programming time win 7 users
they choose not too.

thart shows steam has 0 respobsibility to keep retro gaming alove and pisses on users like me who have spends thousanda with them..

its ofcourse cheaper to do nothing and just blame chrome.
but a billion dollar conpagny should not rely on embedded services of another party. they should build their own shell.

and such corps usually only start lisening when it hurts their bottomline.. well than thats what we have to do.
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C1REX 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 21분 
De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
no they just greedt bastards.
Who does it better than steam?
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De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 23분 
C1REX님이 먼저 게시:
De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
no they just greedt bastards.
Who does it better than steam?

1 old cdrom before stream drm was addes to them

2 pirated copies
(was steams motto not once to be cheaper and easier that piracy)

3 gog : no drm means you can install straight from the iso you downloaded.
shiel 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 24분 
De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
C1REX님이 먼저 게시:
Steam wouldn't have dropped Windows 7 support if it had been profitable for them.
It was likely costing them too much.

no they just greedt bastards.

they are billionaira yet use chrome embedded for steam.
chrome drips?win 7 suppprt and steam just to lazy to do anything about it.

they could have easel6 hired a fed devs to creste a non embedded version pf steam.

they could create some wsy to download .iso on a win 10 system that you than can install and run on an win 7 sysyem in offline mode

i can think of at least 10 other ways how with a bit of programming time win 7 users
they choose not too.

thart shows steam has 0 respobsibility to keep retro gaming alove and pisses on users like me who have spends thousanda with them..

its ofcourse cheaper to do nothing and just blame chrome.
but a billion dollar conpagny should not rely on embedded services of another party. they should build their own shell.

and such corps usually only start lisening when it hurts their bottomline.. well than thats what we have to do.
What are you even going on about? I play a ton of older titles and have had pretty well the same difficulties getting them to work with Windows 10 and 11 as I had with 7. You not knowing how to do something isn't the same as it being impossible.

Also, reasonably sure that the vast majority of those Win7 accounts will move on to 10/11 at some point. I'm sure Valve will be absolutely devastated by the lack of your few hundred bucks a year though.
plat 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 28분 
Valve can afford some of the best market analysts and attorneys around. Valve acts in a manner that has been hashed over in the board room for decades. Everything is calculated to the nth degree in order to minimize losses and retain the most users.

You don't see a lot of action like this in the course of some years because it's such a final step. Chromium is open source, mind you. Pls. do not confuse it with Google/Chrome browser which seems more deserving of your vitriol.

I mean look at YouTube: yammering for subs and blocking videos unless you pay up (or get a content blocker that can handle that nasty script and others). If they could get away w/murder for an extra dollar--cough,cough....
De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 28분 
RentacleTape님이 먼저 게시:
De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
i paid good money to stick with windows 7 prefered paying 300 euro to obtain win 7 over spenfing 10 euro on win 10.. put in much work to prevent it from upsaring to win 10.
I guess I have to repeat it: You agreed to steam doing this when you created your steam account. You also knew steam would do this some day. The time has come. They are doing what they told you they would do. You have no grounds to argue about this.

De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
the issue is : not all my games will run on win 10
Exactly which games do you have that will not run on Windows 10?

De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
steam is not the saviour of pc gaming it is the arch enemy! steam must go bankrupt! users must stop funding corps with practices like this.

I for one wont be handing them anything anymore.
If you don't like that steam is doing this then why did you agree to it and make a steam account?

i bought fysical pc games they not said they needed steam to install.
they neefed steam drm anyway

law here ststes eula with games is valid steam ignores our law has even stated sue me.. an attitude unheared of by compagnies in my country who if you state the law will usually comply.

finally as there litterly was due steam no other way to obtain new games.. fysixal storwswere killed off by steam and no other stores excisted at the tiime..
monopoly...
while i worried bout the what if steam ever goes babkrupt (not even cobsidered deopping support for an os) I always presumed if that ever happened steam would provide us with some fix to keep installing and playing what we bought even after thet were gone...

this pointless drop of win 7 showed they wont... and that all gameson their site are perishable... and pointlrss to buy..
they now showed their true dirty colours..

i always hated their attitidebut this is one line i truelly not expected them to cross..
Bad 💀 Motha 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 28분 
There is only about 0.4% still.using Win7/8

Valve shouldn't be worried about anything cause if you are a Win7/8 user, you obviously don't spend any money on Steam for anything that actually equates to serious revenue
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C1REX 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 28분 
De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:
C1REX님이 먼저 게시:
Who does it better than steam?

1 old cdrom before stream drm was addes to them

2 pirated copies
(was steams motto not once to be cheaper and easier that piracy)

3 gog : no drm means you can install straight from the iso you downloaded.
If you truly believe in what you are saying, then vote with your wallet. Others should too. I vote with mine and mostly stay on Steam.
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De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 30분 
shiel님이 먼저 게시:
De Hollandse Ezel님이 먼저 게시:

no they just greedt bastards.

they are billionaira yet use chrome embedded for steam.
chrome drips?win 7 suppprt and steam just to lazy to do anything about it.

they could have easel6 hired a fed devs to creste a non embedded version pf steam.

they could create some wsy to download .iso on a win 10 system that you than can install and run on an win 7 sysyem in offline mode

i can think of at least 10 other ways how with a bit of programming time win 7 users
they choose not too.

thart shows steam has 0 respobsibility to keep retro gaming alove and pisses on users like me who have spends thousanda with them..

its ofcourse cheaper to do nothing and just blame chrome.
but a billion dollar conpagny should not rely on embedded services of another party. they should build their own shell.

and such corps usually only start lisening when it hurts their bottomline.. well than thats what we have to do.
What are you even going on about? I play a ton of older titles and have had pretty well the same difficulties getting them to work with Windows 10 and 11 as I had with 7. You not knowing how to do something isn't the same as it being impossible.

Also, reasonably sure that the vast majority of those Win7 accounts will move on to 10/11 at some point. I'm sure Valve will be absolutely devastated by the lack of your few hundred bucks a year though.

moving to win 10 to keep acces to some of what i paid for.. very likely.
but paying for that win 10 copy.. or spending another cent in the steam store? never!
De Hollandse Ezel (차단됨) 2023년 12월 15일 오후 4시 31분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
There is only about 0.4% still.using Win7/8

Valve shouldn't be worried about anything cause if you are a Win7/8 user, you obviously don't spend any money on Steam for anything that actually equates to serious revenue

600 euro per year.. is way more than average steam user spends
serious revenue i'd say.

it is looked it up 8.5 billion usd on 120 million users.
or about 50 usd per user per year.. with nesrly 5k euro spend on this accound 3k of it last 5 years.. i am clearly welll above the average custoner in spending.

and they now will lose that.. lets hope they loose a lot more of thar.. so they hopefully learn one day.


i get sick on the theme that win users are all pisspoor people on potato pc who not know or can use win 10. i use win 10 at work (causr i have to sadly) i can program code in multiple lamgueas..

many of us geeks just really hate on win 10 amd 11 sone went linix others stuck to win 7.
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