Bing Chilling 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 7:31
steam deck OLED vs LCD refurbished
512GB OLED = 689.99 CAD
1TB OLED = 819.99
512 GB - Valve Certified Refurbished = 449.00

is it really worth the extra 220$ for an 512gb OLED steam deck?
引用自 xSOSxHawkens:
The OLED screen is the "main" selling point, but the battery is the arguably more valuble selling point (that steam only lightly touches on).

To be clear, the screen is amazing. Vibrant and blindly bright in HDR, and still very bright in SDR.

Outside of that the 6nm APU is possibly better at undervolting and runs a touch cooler. Most people talking about the deck (historically in forums for eg) have mentioned it having cooling issues and hitting 95c... The OLED has better cooling, and a cooler running chip. Combine that with the undervolting Valve added (for LCD too) and you can get it pretty cool. My LE runs max UV at -50mv and peaks at about 70c +/-5 while in a full drband case and under full load. Way cooler than the launch era LCD's for example.

Wifi got an upgrade as did BT, so if those matter to you its worth note.

But the whole package is just the deal. Its hard to get so many gold stars in any other option atm. As for others I mentioned them as they are typically close to OLED in price, but if not in your market then disregard.

Overall I have been super pleased with mine. It just went out on a weekend trip to my best buds and was used for party gaming, pass around gaming, split screen via bock on TV, single player on both deck and TV, etc. Didnt miss a beat ;) Tried things ranging from Wave/GeometryWars to Starfield.

I got one for my dad and have been daily driving mine for a bit, plan at least a full week, as I want to see what it will be like for him to use it as a daily game platform both hand held and on a 4k screen (not running at 4k obviously, just outputting to the screen).
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xSOSxHawkens 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:07 
Yes.

OLED is about battery life. Way longer play times.

Either go ROG Ally - poor battery run times, high performance - 1080p medium/high - GTX1650 comparable with 8c/16t, but only 45-60min full load battery or 2-3hrs light load.

Or go Steam Deck OLED - Much better battery run time with lower performance - 720p with low-medium settings - more comparable to a desktop class iGPU or lower end dGPU (think rx560), with 4c/8t CPU. But the OLED deck will look nicer (outside raw rez) and will run for 2.5-3hrs in high load (read starfield, hogwarts, etc) and run closer to 4-5+hrs for light duty. I can 4hrs +/- about 15 minutes in things like DRG for example.

The LCD decks are like the OLED decks with worse screens, worse, wifi, worse bluetooth, and only a bit better than the Ally on battery run times (why the ally was (keyword was) the more popular option). The oled bumps runtimes up so much that for a mobile gaming device (which all these are) its the only one truly mobile. Think entire game sessions without a cord mobile. The LCD deck, Ally, or any other cant compare here, at all.

Edit: And incase you are like "well I can just run the ally slower on lower TDP" it sadly wont work. At 15w the deck wipes the floor with the ally, even worse if the ally tries to run native rez 1080p.
最後修改者:xSOSxHawkens; 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:09
Bing Chilling 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:17 
引用自 xSOSxHawkens
Yes.

OLED is about battery life. Way longer play times.

Either go ROG Ally - poor battery run times, high performance - 1080p medium/high - GTX1650 comparable with 8c/16t, but only 45-60min full load battery or 2-3hrs light load.

Or go Steam Deck OLED - Much better battery run time with lower performance - 720p with low-medium settings - more comparable to a desktop class iGPU or lower end dGPU (think rx560), with 4c/8t CPU. But the OLED deck will look nicer (outside raw rez) and will run for 2.5-3hrs in high load (read starfield, hogwarts, etc) and run closer to 4-5+hrs for light duty. I can 4hrs +/- about 15 minutes in things like DRG for example.

The LCD decks are like the OLED decks with worse screens, worse, wifi, worse bluetooth, and only a bit better than the Ally on battery run times (why the ally was (keyword was) the more popular option). The oled bumps runtimes up so much that for a mobile gaming device (which all these are) its the only one truly mobile. Think entire game sessions without a cord mobile. The LCD deck, Ally, or any other cant compare here, at all.

Edit: And incase you are like "well I can just run the ally slower on lower TDP" it sadly wont work. At 15w the deck wipes the floor with the ally, even worse if the ally tries to run native rez 1080p.
i'm only looking at the steamdeck as it's within my price range
i was just curious if the extra like 250$ is worth it for a OLED version instead of LCD

from the sounds of it the battery life is the main selling point
最後修改者:Bing Chilling; 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:18
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xSOSxHawkens 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:30 
The OLED screen is the "main" selling point, but the battery is the arguably more valuble selling point (that steam only lightly touches on).

To be clear, the screen is amazing. Vibrant and blindly bright in HDR, and still very bright in SDR.

Outside of that the 6nm APU is possibly better at undervolting and runs a touch cooler. Most people talking about the deck (historically in forums for eg) have mentioned it having cooling issues and hitting 95c... The OLED has better cooling, and a cooler running chip. Combine that with the undervolting Valve added (for LCD too) and you can get it pretty cool. My LE runs max UV at -50mv and peaks at about 70c +/-5 while in a full drband case and under full load. Way cooler than the launch era LCD's for example.

Wifi got an upgrade as did BT, so if those matter to you its worth note.

But the whole package is just the deal. Its hard to get so many gold stars in any other option atm. As for others I mentioned them as they are typically close to OLED in price, but if not in your market then disregard.

Overall I have been super pleased with mine. It just went out on a weekend trip to my best buds and was used for party gaming, pass around gaming, split screen via bock on TV, single player on both deck and TV, etc. Didnt miss a beat ;) Tried things ranging from Wave/GeometryWars to Starfield.

I got one for my dad and have been daily driving mine for a bit, plan at least a full week, as I want to see what it will be like for him to use it as a daily game platform both hand held and on a 4k screen (not running at 4k obviously, just outputting to the screen).
Bing Chilling 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:34 
引用自 xSOSxHawkens
The OLED screen is the "main" selling point, but the battery is the arguably more valuble selling point (that steam only lightly touches on).

To be clear, the screen is amazing. Vibrant and blindly bright in HDR, and still very bright in SDR.

Outside of that the 6nm APU is possibly better at undervolting and runs a touch cooler. Most people talking about the deck (historically in forums for eg) have mentioned it having cooling issues and hitting 95c... The OLED has better cooling, and a cooler running chip. Combine that with the undervolting Valve added (for LCD too) and you can get it pretty cool. My LE runs max UV at -50mv and peaks at about 70c +/-5 while in a full drband case and under full load. Way cooler than the launch era LCD's for example.

Wifi got an upgrade as did BT, so if those matter to you its worth note.

But the whole package is just the deal. Its hard to get so many gold stars in any other option atm. As for others I mentioned them as they are typically close to OLED in price, but if not in your market then disregard.

Overall I have been super pleased with mine. It just went out on a weekend trip to my best buds and was used for party gaming, pass around gaming, split screen via bock on TV, single player on both deck and TV, etc. Didnt miss a beat ;) Tried things ranging from Wave/GeometryWars to Starfield.

I got one for my dad and have been daily driving mine for a bit, plan at least a full week, as I want to see what it will be like for him to use it as a daily game platform both hand held and on a 4k screen (not running at 4k obviously, just outputting to the screen).
thanks for your help. i'm gonna go with the oled
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:29 
It's not a simple 220$ for a screen difference the OLED has newer internals and supports WiFi-6 and also other factors. Plus the OLED would be "new" with a full 1 year warranty
Bing Chilling 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 10:45 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
It's not a simple 220$ for a screen difference the OLED has newer internals and supports WiFi-6 and also other factors. Plus the OLED would be "new" with a full 1 year warranty
i did decide to go with the oled, ordered it earlier today
but even refurbished decks have a 1 year warranty according to steams FAQ
Billy M. 2024 年 1 月 5 日 下午 12:06 
Did you at least get it, seems GLS and Parceforce are on a stealing rampage again.
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