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Maybe I'll buy a RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT in few years if their prices drop enough. RTX 30 cards are quite VRAM limited and 3070 Ti and above have really high power consumption.
The GTX 1080 would go back to my old X58 build
I don't think that's a big enough upgrade and it only has 8GB VRAM. I'd be going from 1080p to 1440p with the new card so it would have to be fast enough to overcome the resolution increase and still have higher performance than the GTX 1080.
The cheapest RTX 3060 Ti is 373€
Alternatively, the 6700 XT is a similar price (just a bit higher) than the RTX 3060 and RTX 4060, and it basically gets you the combination of RTX 3060 Ti performance with 12 GB. It won't have the ray tracing performance and it will consume more power though (especially compared to the RTX 4060). That's why the RTX 4060 wouldn't be my first choice, but if you're partial to nVidia, the RTX 4060 might be the best that fits in your budget. And while it might not be great, it's still quite a bit better than your GTX 1080.
Pascal hasn't been aging well the last year or so. The RTX 2060 launched with just above GTX 1070 performance, but now it's closer to GTX 1070 Ti/GTX 1080 performance.
Likewise, the RTX 3060 was a bit around/above the GTX 1080 and now the RXT 3050 matches it at times.
Pascal is just aging at an accelerated rate lately. It's still not bad; the GTX 1080 in particular is still doing okay, but it's aging ever faster. You certainly got your money worth if you kept Pascal this long. I just replaced my GTX 1060 a few months ago.
Researching this topic led me to the conclusion that despite the higher memory it actually works slower in the 3060, but then again it MIGHT be a bit more future proof purely in terms of texture quality.
For pure performance benchmarks show the 3060ti is significantly faster than the regular one because it's pretty much a nerfed 3070.
WTF Nvidia, why did you make it so chaotic?!
Not looking into AMD options at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against team Red, but like I said seeing DLSS in action just won me over. FSR just isn't there yet and I'm not sure if it ever will be.
I'll probably be telling my grandchildren about how epic the Pascal generation was.
RTX 4060 Ti (8 GB) = RTX 3070 > RTX 3060 Ti > RTX 4060 > RTX 3060.
Keep in mind the gap is only 10% between the first two and the third, and a 10% gap is within the edge of the range that most people call "similar or near identical performance". The issue is the higher you go on these cards, the higher the performance and price goes and the higher the 8 GB becomes a concern. The RTX 4060 is $300 or a bit less so I'd disappointingly accept it there, but not higher. And I'd probably take an RTX 3060 over the RTX 4060, but that's merely because my own uses need VRAM.
The way I'd look at it is this. Less VRAM might limit you from using higher quality textures, which may impact scene quality a lot. The lower performance of the RTX 3060 instead of the RTX 4060 loses you some frames overall, but you can turn down some other settings which might not impact scene quality as much. You have to pick which you think is better. I don't envy you having to make that choice; I used to love nVidia's x60 tier and often bought them, but I skipped it this time. I genuinely think the RTX 4070 is the minimum to go with, but it has too steep of a price for many people.
DLSS3 will further help the RTX 4060, although keep in mind DLSS, as good as it is, does best when the native frame rate is already high (~60 FPS) to gain even more. It doesn't save an incapable card, so I think DLSS's advantage might either be muted or have its edge wear off sooner for these lower tier cards than when compared to the higher tier cards. That's sort of a guess more than a statement, though. But since you mention this as a big reason you're avoiding AMD to begin with, I honestly think that makes it sound like the RTX 4060 is the better choice over the RTX 30 series for the same reason.
The PC behind you ........... WHAT?
English pls.
I have a MSI GTX1070 TI which is very similar, still can play a lot of VR games with it
bought a new pc with a 980ti in may 2016.
was very pissed thec1xxx series launched just 2 weeks after I bought my pc.
when my 980ti broke in november 2016 due bending.. the stupid store took an unrealistic 4 months to handle my rma (never buy at that store again they did send it back trough multiple suppliers in between instead of testing it themselves..)
this placed me in march 2017.. the start of the 1st cryptocraze.. no grafic card to be found.
store payed back what I spend on my 980ti but they could simply not give ANY other card.
at the time I offered 5000 euro for a galax 1080ti HOF (i had a white build I not wanted to ruin with another look)
which was enough to buy 3 1080ti of any other type and brand eve at scalper price..
but nobody ever offered me one.
it was not untill the 2080ti released carda fibally became avaulable again.
this was in march 2018.. yes my pc had been in rma in the store for 15 months out of the 21 I had owned it upto than.
imagine how much of the 6000 purchase price evaporated duw not using that top end system in at that time!
the 2080ti I had to pick up from another store.
it was from the wrong brand.
it was not white ruining my cases look.
and worst of all it was stock with a waterblock (bringing extra costs and later even more headaches)
1600 euro for a 2080ti of a horrible colour + 600 euro in watercooling parts to replave a 700 euro 980ti.
but at least I could game again.
one lightpoint when the 3xxx series released just a year after that.. seeing 2080ti go for 500 euro.. less than a THIRD of what I paid. hurted. I saw one of the same brand and type I owned.. I bought it.
whe the 2d cryptograze hit and the price of used 2080tis rose back to 2500 euro I made a nice profit by selling that one I bought.. recouping some of the loss the original 980ti headache caused me.
had I not suffered all this I would not have blowd 5000 euro in repairs since 2016 to keep this 6000 euro system running.
and I likely would by now have a succesor system amd my 980ti system as server in the corner.
the 2080ti is still to potent to make that move.
Sold that and got a RTX 3060 as a placeholder. I wasn’t all that impressed with this card as I also was using 1440p at that point.
Now I picked up an RTX 4070 and have been very impressed with it. No dips below 60, power usage is about the same and it still uses only a single 8 pin connector.
During this time I went from an i5 4590 to i5 10400 and to now with a Ryzen 7800x3D and wow this CPU has impressed me very much as an avid strategy and simulation gamer.
I really want DLSS but it seems like NVIDIA just decided to be complete freaking a-holes towards anyone considering anything lower than a 4060ti, which in itself isn't the best price-performance combo.
The VRAM issue is pretty big and it will only get worse it seems