Bullett00th 29. nov. 2023 kl. 6.48
Who's still rocking a GTX 1080?
Stumbled upon this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=516OexsGlO0

And it gave me extra appreciation of my GPU. Mine isn't TI, but at the same time it was very affordable for the performance, and soon to be 8 years old.


Alan Wake 2 is the first game that I can't afford to run at all, and that still has me raising an eyebrow given that I've comfortably played through Resident Evil 4 on close to max settings in 1080p, no RT of course.



I dread upgrading because money is tight and my i7-7700k would need replacing as well, along with the 650w PSU probably. Plus I just don't know what to replace it with. 3070 comes to mind, but how long will that last? I doubt that as long as my 1080 did.
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Pasi123 1. des. 2023 kl. 19.21 
I use a GTX 1080 non-Ti, it runs all the games I play just fine at 1080p. Though I've been thinking of upgrading to a 1440p monitor which would require a faster card.
Maybe I'll buy a RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT in few years if their prices drop enough. RTX 30 cards are quite VRAM limited and 3070 Ti and above have really high power consumption.
The GTX 1080 would go back to my old X58 build
UserNotFound 1. des. 2023 kl. 19.43 
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I use a GTX 1080 non-Ti, it runs all the games I play just fine at 1080p. Though I've been thinking of upgrading to a 1440p monitor which would require a faster card.
Maybe I'll buy a RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT in few years if their prices drop enough. RTX 30 cards are quite VRAM limited and 3070 Ti and above have really high power consumption.
The GTX 1080 would go back to my old X58 build
IF you wanna go with the RTX 4k series, go for the two top dogs (RTX 4080 and RTX 4090/4090Ti), okay, the three top dogs. I don't believe the RTX 4070 Ti and lower have the GPU grunt and VRAM to fully leverage RT and PT at higher res. The RX 7800 XT has been praised by a few review sites for having good price/performance it brings to the table at pure rasterize gaming, perhaps with a little RT thrown in. With newer games chewing up more and more VRAM, 16GB VRAM on the RX 7800XT has 'longer legs' than the 12GB VRAM on the RTX 4070/4070 Ti.
Opprinnelig skrevet av Pasi123:
I use a GTX 1080 non-Ti, it runs all the games I play just fine at 1080p. Though I've been thinking of upgrading to a 1440p monitor which would require a faster card.
Maybe I'll buy a RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT in few years if their prices drop enough. RTX 30 cards are quite VRAM limited and 3070 Ti and above have really high power consumption.
The GTX 1080 would go back to my old X58 build
The RTX 3060 Ti is good as far as i have used one and i can get them at a reasonable price of approx £280, the GTX 1080 is a fossil , I had one got really hot , replace heat sink paste on it - sold
Pasi123 1. des. 2023 kl. 21.07 
Opprinnelig skrevet av UserNotFound:
IF you wanna go with the RTX 4k series, go for the two top dogs (RTX 4080 and RTX 4090/4090Ti), okay, the three top dogs. I don't believe the RTX 4070 Ti and lower have the GPU grunt and VRAM to fully leverage RT and PT at higher res. The RX 7800 XT has been praised by a few review sites for having good price/performance it brings to the table at pure rasterize gaming, perhaps with a little RT thrown in. With newer games chewing up more and more VRAM, 16GB VRAM on the RX 7800XT has 'longer legs' than the 12GB VRAM on the RTX 4070/4070 Ti.
RTX 4080 and 4090 have extremely high power consumption and are really expensive. The cheapest 4080 is 1250€ and 4090 is 1800€. For comparison the 4070 is 630€ and 7800 XT is 580€.


Opprinnelig skrevet av sTiGgA:
The RTX 3060 Ti is good as far as i have used one and i can get them at a reasonable price of approx £280, the GTX 1080 is a fossil , I had one got really hot , replace heat sink paste on it - sold
I don't think that's a big enough upgrade and it only has 8GB VRAM. I'd be going from 1080p to 1440p with the new card so it would have to be fast enough to overcome the resolution increase and still have higher performance than the GTX 1080.
The cheapest RTX 3060 Ti is 373€
Bullett00th 2. des. 2023 kl. 1.56 
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The RTX 3060 Ti is good as far as i have used one and i can get them at a reasonable price of approx £280, the GTX 1080 is a fossil , I had one got really hot , replace heat sink paste on it - sold
I can't help but wonder if 3060 is a better investment for the next 2-3 years given that I mostly play at 1080p and the 12GB VRAM bonus
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That's absolutely situational.

You should buy what fits within your budget and what gives you the best performance for that price.

For example, an RTX 4070 Ti is faster than an RTX 4070. But an RTX 4070 is also better than an RTX 4060 Ti, and the RTX 4080 is better than an RTX 4070 Ti.
what if I shoot straight for 4060 though?
It wouldn't be my first choice, but if you're not fussed with only having 8 GB instead of 12 GB, then it is a bit faster bit than then RTX 3060 while being about the same price. It's slower than the RTX 3060 Ti, though. If you want the 12 GB, I'd trade the slight speed off and go for the RTX 3060 personally.

Alternatively, the 6700 XT is a similar price (just a bit higher) than the RTX 3060 and RTX 4060, and it basically gets you the combination of RTX 3060 Ti performance with 12 GB. It won't have the ray tracing performance and it will consume more power though (especially compared to the RTX 4060). That's why the RTX 4060 wouldn't be my first choice, but if you're partial to nVidia, the RTX 4060 might be the best that fits in your budget. And while it might not be great, it's still quite a bit better than your GTX 1080.

Pascal hasn't been aging well the last year or so. The RTX 2060 launched with just above GTX 1070 performance, but now it's closer to GTX 1070 Ti/GTX 1080 performance.

Likewise, the RTX 3060 was a bit around/above the GTX 1080 and now the RXT 3050 matches it at times.

Pascal is just aging at an accelerated rate lately. It's still not bad; the GTX 1080 in particular is still doing okay, but it's aging ever faster. You certainly got your money worth if you kept Pascal this long. I just replaced my GTX 1060 a few months ago.
Sist redigert av Illusion of Progress; 2. des. 2023 kl. 2.38
Bullett00th 2. des. 2023 kl. 3.02 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Illusion of Progress:
If you want the 12 GB, I'd trade the slight speed off and go for the RTX 3060 personally.
That's the choice that's killing me here, I'm not sure if I should go for 12GB VRAM or more performance in 3060ti.

Researching this topic led me to the conclusion that despite the higher memory it actually works slower in the 3060, but then again it MIGHT be a bit more future proof purely in terms of texture quality.
For pure performance benchmarks show the 3060ti is significantly faster than the regular one because it's pretty much a nerfed 3070.

WTF Nvidia, why did you make it so chaotic?!

Opprinnelig skrevet av Illusion of Progress:
Alternatively, the 6700 XT
Not looking into AMD options at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against team Red, but like I said seeing DLSS in action just won me over. FSR just isn't there yet and I'm not sure if it ever will be.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Illusion of Progress:
Pascal is just aging at an accelerated rate lately. It's still not bad; the GTX 1080 in particular is still doing okay, but it's aging ever faster. You certainly got your money worth if you kept Pascal this long. I just replaced my GTX 1060 a few months ago.
I'll probably be telling my grandchildren about how epic the Pascal generation was.
The RTX 3060 Ti is only ~10% slower than the RTX 3070. The RTX 4060 Ti about matches the RTX 3070. Then the RTX 3060 is a fair bit slower than the RTX 3060 Ti, and the RTX 4060 is somewhat in between them.

RTX 4060 Ti (8 GB) = RTX 3070 > RTX 3060 Ti > RTX 4060 > RTX 3060.

Keep in mind the gap is only 10% between the first two and the third, and a 10% gap is within the edge of the range that most people call "similar or near identical performance". The issue is the higher you go on these cards, the higher the performance and price goes and the higher the 8 GB becomes a concern. The RTX 4060 is $300 or a bit less so I'd disappointingly accept it there, but not higher. And I'd probably take an RTX 3060 over the RTX 4060, but that's merely because my own uses need VRAM.

The way I'd look at it is this. Less VRAM might limit you from using higher quality textures, which may impact scene quality a lot. The lower performance of the RTX 3060 instead of the RTX 4060 loses you some frames overall, but you can turn down some other settings which might not impact scene quality as much. You have to pick which you think is better. I don't envy you having to make that choice; I used to love nVidia's x60 tier and often bought them, but I skipped it this time. I genuinely think the RTX 4070 is the minimum to go with, but it has too steep of a price for many people.

DLSS3 will further help the RTX 4060, although keep in mind DLSS, as good as it is, does best when the native frame rate is already high (~60 FPS) to gain even more. It doesn't save an incapable card, so I think DLSS's advantage might either be muted or have its edge wear off sooner for these lower tier cards than when compared to the higher tier cards. That's sort of a guess more than a statement, though. But since you mention this as a big reason you're avoiding AMD to begin with, I honestly think that makes it sound like the RTX 4060 is the better choice over the RTX 30 series for the same reason.
Amuro0079 2. des. 2023 kl. 3.51 
The PC behind me is a i7 3960x Sandy Bridge-E with a GTX 1080. I had been using it for almost 12 years (CPU). Upgraded to 7950X3D + 4090. I'm not sure what to do with this old rig behind me. I could call free government E-waste collection to get rid of the computer but the Corsair 760T case is only 5 years old, a bit outdated but very well built case. I guess I could strip the parts and keep the case if hadn't been lazy all this time or maybe just leave the whole thing be and use it as furniture.
Angry Gandalf 2. des. 2023 kl. 5.51 
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The PC behind me is a i7 3960x Sandy Bridge-E with a GTX 1080. I had been using it for almost 12 years (CPU). Upgraded to 7950X3D + 4090. I'm not sure what to do with this old rig behind me. I could call free government E-waste collection to get rid of the computer but the Corsair 760T case is only 5 years old, a bit outdated but very well built case. I guess I could strip the parts and keep the case if hadn't been lazy all this time or maybe just leave the whole thing be and use it as furniture.

The PC behind you ........... WHAT?
English pls.
Amuro0079 2. des. 2023 kl. 6.10 
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Opprinnelig skrevet av Amuro0079:
The PC behind me is a i7 3960x Sandy Bridge-E with a GTX 1080. I had been using it for almost 12 years (CPU). Upgraded to 7950X3D + 4090. I'm not sure what to do with this old rig behind me. I could call free government E-waste collection to get rid of the computer but the Corsair 760T case is only 5 years old, a bit outdated but very well built case. I guess I could strip the parts and keep the case if hadn't been lazy all this time or maybe just leave the whole thing be and use it as furniture.

The PC behind you ........... WHAT?
English pls.
It's like 5 feet behind my chair next to the wall. It's my previous PC. It's obviously not plugged in at this point.
Sist redigert av Amuro0079; 2. des. 2023 kl. 6.11
Kobs 2. des. 2023 kl. 14.36 
Who's still rocking a GTX 1080?

I have a MSI GTX1070 TI which is very similar, still can play a lot of VR games with it
Dutchgamer1982 2. des. 2023 kl. 14.51 
those were unobtaibable.

bought a new pc with a 980ti in may 2016.

was very pissed thec1xxx series launched just 2 weeks after I bought my pc.

when my 980ti broke in november 2016 due bending.. the stupid store took an unrealistic 4 months to handle my rma (never buy at that store again they did send it back trough multiple suppliers in between instead of testing it themselves..)

this placed me in march 2017.. the start of the 1st cryptocraze.. no grafic card to be found.

store payed back what I spend on my 980ti but they could simply not give ANY other card.
at the time I offered 5000 euro for a galax 1080ti HOF (i had a white build I not wanted to ruin with another look)
which was enough to buy 3 1080ti of any other type and brand eve at scalper price..
but nobody ever offered me one.

it was not untill the 2080ti released carda fibally became avaulable again.
this was in march 2018.. yes my pc had been in rma in the store for 15 months out of the 21 I had owned it upto than.

imagine how much of the 6000 purchase price evaporated duw not using that top end system in at that time!

the 2080ti I had to pick up from another store.
it was from the wrong brand.
it was not white ruining my cases look.
and worst of all it was stock with a waterblock (bringing extra costs and later even more headaches)

1600 euro for a 2080ti of a horrible colour + 600 euro in watercooling parts to replave a 700 euro 980ti.

but at least I could game again.

one lightpoint when the 3xxx series released just a year after that.. seeing 2080ti go for 500 euro.. less than a THIRD of what I paid. hurted. I saw one of the same brand and type I owned.. I bought it.

whe the 2d cryptograze hit and the price of used 2080tis rose back to 2500 euro I made a nice profit by selling that one I bought.. recouping some of the loss the original 980ti headache caused me.

had I not suffered all this I would not have blowd 5000 euro in repairs since 2016 to keep this 6000 euro system running.

and I likely would by now have a succesor system amd my 980ti system as server in the corner.
the 2080ti is still to potent to make that move.
Sist redigert av Dutchgamer1982; 2. des. 2023 kl. 14.53
Marshal 2. des. 2023 kl. 14.56 
70 series has always met my needs. My first serious GPU purchase was the GTX 1070 which lasted me 5 years.

Sold that and got a RTX 3060 as a placeholder. I wasn’t all that impressed with this card as I also was using 1440p at that point.

Now I picked up an RTX 4070 and have been very impressed with it. No dips below 60, power usage is about the same and it still uses only a single 8 pin connector.

During this time I went from an i5 4590 to i5 10400 and to now with a Ryzen 7800x3D and wow this CPU has impressed me very much as an avid strategy and simulation gamer.
Bullett00th 2. des. 2023 kl. 16.58 
I'm starting to consider AMD.

I really want DLSS but it seems like NVIDIA just decided to be complete freaking a-holes towards anyone considering anything lower than a 4060ti, which in itself isn't the best price-performance combo.

The VRAM issue is pretty big and it will only get worse it seems
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