Who's still rocking a GTX 1080?

[Bullett00th]

Stumbled upon this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=516OexsGlO0

And it gave me extra appreciation of my GPU. Mine isn't TI, but at the same time it was very affordable for the performance, and soon to be 8 years old.


Alan Wake 2 is the first game that I can't afford to run at all, and that still has me raising an eyebrow given that I've comfortably played through Resident Evil 4 on close to max settings in 1080p, no RT of course.



I dread upgrading because money is tight and my i7-7700k would need replacing as well, along with the 650w PSU probably. Plus I just don't know what to replace it with. 3070 comes to mind, but how long will that last? I doubt that as long as my 1080 did.

[joefig44]

1070 Ti user up until today - just upgraded to a 4070 Ti.

[EricOfMelnibone]

7800X3D + GTX 1080 here. Working fine with the games I own, but newer games aren't going to run on it so I'll probably replace it next year if the Nvidia Super 4000 series actually are released.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

İlk olarak EricOfMelnibone tarafından gönderildi:

7800X3D + GTX 1080 here. Working fine with the games I own, but newer games aren't going to run on it so I'll probably replace it next year if the Nvidia Super 4000 series actually are released.

Yes because it is not the 1080Ti which were developed from the Titan X chips and not the standard GTX 1080 chips so those that are not Ti are not going to be as good.

Always go with titanium.

[plat]

İlk olarak Wynters tarafından gönderildi:

"Woe is you" is correct as I am a legit and excited buyer. :p

How much and where are you located. I wanna SLI these things but idk I paid only $600 for the one I have now and it was a binned model with maxed out settings.

Are we allowed to discuss these kinds of things? I don't want to go against any forum rules. I'm happy to talk about it, maybe this is not the right place though.

This is a Founders Edition gtx with the blower cooler.

OP: you might research the pluses and minuses of the mid tier 3000. There are four styles to choose from. An example of a comparison, there are a few others out there.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3060-vs-3060-ti-vs-3070/

[Bullett00th]

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OP: you might research the pluses and minuses of the mid tier 3000. There are four styles to choose from. An example of a comparison, there are a few others out there.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3060-vs-3060-ti-vs-3070/

you hit the nail, that's exactly what I'm doing right now.

by this point I know I'm not upgrading anything else anytime soon, so I'm considering whether to save money and get 3060 or go for ti or even 3070. I was a bit surprised at how much performance 3060ti gains over the regular version in benchmarks

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

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İlk olarak plat tarafından gönderildi:

OP: you might research the pluses and minuses of the mid tier 3000. There are four styles to choose from. An example of a comparison, there are a few others out there.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3060-vs-3060-ti-vs-3070/

you hit the nail, that's exactly what I'm doing right now.

by this point I know I'm not upgrading anything else anytime soon, so I'm considering whether to save money and get 3060 or go for ti or even 3070. I was a bit surprised at how much performance 3060ti gains over the regular version in benchmarks

Titaniums are built better. Always go with Ti.

[Illusion of Progress]

İlk olarak Bullett00th tarafından gönderildi:

I dread upgrading because money is tight and my i7-7700k would need replacing as well, along with the 650w PSU probably. Plus I just don't know what to replace it with. 3070 comes to mind, but how long will that last? I doubt that as long as my 1080 did.

The RTX 30 series, especially the RTX 3070, shouldn't even be on the table at this point in my opinion (the RTX 3060 12 GB for lower budgets is the singular one I think that still has some merit). It definitely won't age anywhere near as well as your GTX 1080. It already had concerns out the gate and it's over three years old now. I mean if you're getting it for $250 used maybe, but I wouldn't buy one new.

Yes, you would ideally want a CPU upgrade for something relatively modern and justifiably faster than the GTX 1080 you already have. A quad core, and one with slower per core performance, wouldn't justify something a whole lot faster than what you have now in my mind. Anything older than the 8th to 10th generation CPUs is where I would more call into question pairing the latest generations of GPUs with them, and I'm the opposite of someone who things you need to upgrade just because a bottleneck might exist, because they actually always exist; but the quad core era is just too slow enough in my mind for the modern mid-range and up GPUs that I'd be looking to replace it.

If you're looking to sticking to nVidia, the RTX 4070 is the lowest I'd look at considering your GTX 1080 starting point.

[Illusion of Progress]

İlk olarak Wynters tarafından gönderildi:

Titaniums are built better. Always go with Ti. :csdsmile:

That's absolutely situational.

You should buy what fits within your budget and what gives you the best performance for that price.

For example, an RTX 4070 Ti is faster than an RTX 4070. But an RTX 4070 is also better than an RTX 4060 Ti, and the RTX 4080 is better than an RTX 4070 Ti.

So I'm not sure where "always buy Ti" comes in. You buy based on budget, but I will say this; I personally wouldn't want to have a budget that gives me the RTX 4070 Ti as the best thing. That's just about nVidia's worst value right now. And the RTX 4060 Ti has the same issue the RTX 3070 and to a lesser extent even the RTX 3060 Ti had; they're pretty iffy on having low VRAM and in order to fix that with the RTX 4060 Ti, you need to spend too much. Instead of choosing between 8 GB or 16 GB the thing should have just had 12 GB. So why choose an RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB when the RTX 4070 is so much better and not much more expensive? The Ti models are actually the worst value spots in the current generation.

These days they just fill the price gaps and are are part of the regular lineup anyway. They aren't even refreshes anymore like they used to be. That's the Super now, and those are coming soon.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

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İlk olarak Wynters tarafından gönderildi:

Titaniums are built better. Always go with Ti.

That's absolutely situational.

You should buy what fits within your budget and what gives you the best performance for that price.

For example, an RTX 4070 Ti is faster than an RTX 4070. But an RTX 4070 is also better than an RTX 4060 Ti, and the RTX 4080 is better than an RTX 4070 Ti.

So I'm not sure where "always buy Ti" comes in. You buy based on budget, but I will say this; I personally wouldn't want to have a budget that gives me the RTX 4070 Ti as the best thing. That's just about nVidia's worst value right now. And the RTX 4060 Ti has the same issue the RTX 3070 and to a lesser extent even the RTX 3060 Ti had; they're pretty iffy on having low VRAM and in order to fix that with the RTX 4060 Ti, you need to spend too much. Instead of choosing between 8 GB or 16 GB the thing should have just had 12 GB. So why choose an RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB when the RTX 4070 is so much better and not much more expensive? The Ti models are actually the worst value spots in the current generation.

These days they just fill the price gaps and are are part of the regular lineup anyway. They aren't even refreshes anymore like they used to be. That's the Super now, and those are coming soon.

Every Ti I have owned has outperformed the regular model. The GTX 750Ti went until 2016 playing any game on epic settings. They handle OC better and have better thermals. So not so situational now is it...

I buy everything based on how things are built, strength, performance, and durability ratings, not budget - as I have unlimited flow there.

→ Different countries have different budgets but never assume.

Besides I bought the Ti for $300 lower than the standard models as these were limited binned. So idk what you are talking about as some Ti cost less even if they perform better...

So perhaps, depending on country, it could be situational as some countries prices are extremely high to where some people cannot afford Ti versions and designer clothing.

Have a lovely evening/day.

[Bullett00th]

İlk olarak Wynters tarafından gönderildi:

Titaniums are built better. Always go with Ti. :csdsmile:

I mean, between 3060 and 3060ti - sure.
3070ti might be a bit of a stretch for me though

İlk olarak Illusion of Progress tarafından gönderildi:

If you're looking to sticking to nVidia, the RTX 4070 is the lowest I'd look at considering your GTX 1080 starting point.

way out of my budget, which I barely have any of.
At best I'm looking to sell my 1080 and buy a used 30xx so my total spending is around $150-200

here's the thing: I bought myself an RTX 3060 laptop and basically it outperforms my GTX1080 desktop PC in most titles with DLSS support, while it's the other way around in everything else or when playing without DLSS.
So I'm not looking for a huge upgrade, just figured selling the 1080 while I still can and getting me the benefit of DLSS for the time being.

I'll be looking for a total overhaul in a few years down the line

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Every Ti I have owned has outperformed the regular model.

Usually that's the case, but I can't help but raise an eyebrow to 3060ti's 8GB memory vs 3060's 12

[Illusion of Progress]

Apparently declarations of our own intolerance of others not agreeing with us and of our short attention spans are all the things to be prideful of these days. You do you.

No, the Ti models aren't "built better" as an absolute. There's basic and premium models for both and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Yes, the Ti models outperform the same non-Ti models. This doesn't matter, and I addressed why (they cost more). If someone's budget fits an RTX 4070 into it but not an RTX 4070 Ti, what are going to advise? That they only buy if they save up more for the RTX 4070 Ti or step down to the RTX 4060 Ti? That's questionable.

[Illusion of Progress]

İlk olarak Bullett00th tarafından gönderildi:

way out of my budget, which I barely have any of.
At best I'm looking to sell my 1080 and buy a used 30xx so my total spending is around $150-200

Okay, very fair point. The RTX 4070 was more of an idealist thing.

If you can snag any RTX 3060 Ti or RTX 3070 for $200 used I'd say they're fine. I was thinking we were talking about new pricing, where almost none of the RTX 30 series is worth it.

And yes, the RTX 3060 does outperform the GTX 1080 (as I mentioned, even the RTX 3050 sometimes does). But usually going up one tier worth of performance isn't too substantial, and the RTX 3070 has VRAM concerns that wouldn't have it age as well as your GTX 1080 did. You mentioned that as a concern, which is the angle my answer was coming from.

İlk olarak Bullett00th tarafından gönderildi:

Usually that's the case, but I can't help but raise an eyebrow to 3060ti's 8GB memory vs 3060's 12

nVidia's VRAM situation is just... awkward. Let's put it that way. They're basically trying to offer as little as possible and when they get down to the x60 tier, due to how cut down the bus width is (especially on the newest generation), it's too little so have to double it instead. You then end up with one model that's really borderline on VRAM, or one with more than it needs that costs too much.

[Bullett00th]

İlk olarak Illusion of Progress tarafından gönderildi:

Okay, very fair point. The RTX 4070 was more of an idealist thing.

If you can snag any RTX 3060 Ti or RTX 3070 for $200 used I'd say they're fine. I was thinking we were talking about new pricing, where almost none of the RTX 30 series is worth it.

And yes, the RTX 3060 does outperform the GTX 1080 (as I mentioned, even the RTX 3050 sometimes does). But usually going up one tier worth of performance isn't too substantial, and the RTX 3070 has VRAM concerns that wouldn't have it age as well as your GTX 1080 did. You mentioned that as a concern, which is the angle my answer was coming from.

fair enough, and I appreciate all input coming my way.

I'm trying to make up my mind as I go.

I almost never do babystep upgrades like this: my config before the GTX1080 rig was built around Radeon HD5870 in 2010, and I rocked that all the way to late 2016.

Today the situation is different, but witnessing the magic of DLSS and playing most of my games on a 1080p TV (or 1440p monitor), I figured ANY 30xx card will give me another couple of years

[Bullett00th]

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İlk olarak Wynters tarafından gönderildi:

Titaniums are built better. Always go with Ti. :csdsmile:

That's absolutely situational.

You should buy what fits within your budget and what gives you the best performance for that price.

For example, an RTX 4070 Ti is faster than an RTX 4070. But an RTX 4070 is also better than an RTX 4060 Ti, and the RTX 4080 is better than an RTX 4070 Ti.

what if I shoot straight for 4060 though?

[UserNotFound]

I have a GTX 1080 in my i7 4770K HTPC rig, which I've retired a few months back. I recall playing Godfall with FSR at Quality, or Balanced (can't recall, at 4K on my TV and it ran the game well enough to be playable. DLSS is for the RTX series, but with FSR, there's still some performance to be had with the GTX series (especially the higher end ones).

The GTX 1080 is fine for someone who wanna game on a budget, who does not care about RT/PT, and who wants just plain rasterize gaming performance. However, with newer games coming out that requires mesh shaders for better performance, the GTX series will eventually age badly over time.