win 7

[bub1881]

I have win 7 pro. The games run on my system. There is nothing in the way except a greedy company that desires more control over what we do, and how we interact with it. ♥♥♥♥♥♥ middlemen trying to wrest control of a business that is between me and the developer.
pretty sad to steal all my games away, whatever. Refund me full price of everything I can no longer use. I can't POSSIBLY afford to upgrade this system, must be nice for you peeps with the funds to always push ♥♥♥♥ further and faster, cant sit still for 2 seconds ADHD and all, have to have latest and newest even when you have that in your hands already
sad. Yea i finally noticed the little red thing in the top of my screen saying i have just
ONE MONTH
to enjoy my games before this ♥♥♥♥ company pulls the plug on me, because "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ n stuff" admit your noses are jammed up microsoft ass as far as they can possibly fit and you follow orders from above.
Anywho thanks for the memories i guess you got every right nowadays to just reclaim ♥♥♥♥ I paid for fairly. Some BS about intellectual property and ♥♥♥♥. Tell that to a chef. Taking advantage of the fact i mentioned above, that vast audience of twits who can't still long enough for the next best thing so you can make a better profit, and have much more control, over those developers and the consumers. We won't own ♥♥♥♥ in the future, I doubt I will like what you are bringing to the table, either.

[Komarimaru]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 Komarimaru：

On Windows, yes. Since most just opt out of it. I'm sure there are some who choose to enable recommendation ads from Windows Store, but those are casual PC users and generally not gamers or PC enthusiasts.

doubt half or more of the "gamers" even bother, messing with their pc's/laptops at all aside from turning it on, browsing the web and playing games.

in general, most people just turn them on and use them, they have no knowledge on them and only do what they know.

i have seen loads of people throw perfectly good pc's/laptops out because it runs slow, all because they never maintained it, seen others throw them away due to bluescreens, overheating, the list goes on...

us "gamers" are a minority compared to the world around us and not all "gamers", know anything about what they are using.

Exactly my point. Like people screaming Windows 10 has ads, when it's a simple turn off in Windows Store to disable recommendations.

[r.linder]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

doubt half or more of the "gamers" even bother, messing with their pc's/laptops at all aside from turning it on, browsing the web and playing games.

in general, most people just turn them on and use them, they have no knowledge on them and only do what they know.

i have seen loads of people throw perfectly good pc's/laptops out because it runs slow, all because they never maintained it, seen others throw them away due to bluescreens, overheating, the list goes on...

us "gamers" are a minority compared to the world around us and not all "gamers", know anything about what they are using.

Exactly my point. Like people screaming Windows 10 has ads, when it's a simple turn off in Windows Store to disable recommendations.

It's also simple to just not use garbage Windows versions, hence why there is some validity in Windows 7 users that don't like 10/11, though they're better off using Linux than sticking with 7.

They're effectively not giving people a choice but to either accept the latest trash, or learn something fundamentally different that may not work with a lot of their usual software.

[MonkehMaster]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

doubt half or more of the "gamers" even bother, messing with their pc's/laptops at all aside from turning it on, browsing the web and playing games.

in general, most people just turn them on and use them, they have no knowledge on them and only do what they know.

i have seen loads of people throw perfectly good pc's/laptops out because it runs slow, all because they never maintained it, seen others throw them away due to bluescreens, overheating, the list goes on...

us "gamers" are a minority compared to the world around us and not all "gamers", know anything about what they are using.

Exactly my point. Like people screaming Windows 10 has ads, when it's a simple turn off in Windows Store to disable recommendations.

everything has ads... why do you think people hate ads so much, people are getting tired of it...

turning it off, isnt the issue, its the fact its there to begin with...., all the hassle you have to go through to disable, remove, block, workaround, ect...

they not only use our data to target and serve us ads, but they use our internet (that we pay for) to send back said data they harvested.... and we get nothing for it, aside from harassment, annoyances and microsoft using our money to feed them with our data.

now they are shoving crappy AI in our OS's.... why do i need it? why wont it uninstall without force? or other programs microsoft feels like baking in...

[r.linder]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 Komarimaru：

Exactly my point. Like people screaming Windows 10 has ads, when it's a simple turn off in Windows Store to disable recommendations.

everything has ads... why do you think people hate ads so much, people are getting tired of it...

turning it off, isnt the issue, its the fact its there to begin with...., all the hassle you have to go through to disable, remove, block, workaround, ect...

they not only use our data to target and serve us ads, but they use our internet (that we pay for) to send back said data they harvested.... and we get nothing for it, aside from harassment, annoyances and microsoft using our money to feed them with our data.

now they are shoving crappy AI in our OS's.... why do i need it? why wont it uninstall without force? or other programs microsoft feels like baking in...

Intel is baking AI into their CPUs soon enough as well with actual neural processors, and AMD is set to do the same thing. AI acceleration is inevitable whether it be in software or hardware

[MonkehMaster]

引用自 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

everything has ads... why do you think people hate ads so much, people are getting tired of it...

turning it off, isnt the issue, its the fact its there to begin with...., all the hassle you have to go through to disable, remove, block, workaround, ect...

they not only use our data to target and serve us ads, but they use our internet (that we pay for) to send back said data they harvested.... and we get nothing for it, aside from harassment, annoyances and microsoft using our money to feed them with our data.

now they are shoving crappy AI in our OS's.... why do i need it? why wont it uninstall without force? or other programs microsoft feels like baking in...

Intel is baking AI into their CPUs soon enough as well with actual neural processors, and AMD is set to do the same thing.

havent heard anything about it, likely wont buy any of it anyways, stuffs getting way to expensive and i like living more than playing pc games and with all the hig prices with food, bills, ect... games arent on my list, unless they are dirt cheap.

but ya, no one needs that nonsense on their pc's... maybe for business, but not home users and for sure not "gamers".

[r.linder]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺：

Intel is baking AI into their CPUs soon enough as well with actual neural processors, and AMD is set to do the same thing.

havent heard anything about it, likely wont buy any of it anyways, stuffs getting way to expensive and i like living more than playing pc games.

but ya, no one needs that nonsense on their pc's... maybe for business, but not home users and for sure not "gamers".

It'll be either 15th or 16th generation, whenever Windows 12 launches, because they're probably going to launch side by side.

[MonkehMaster]

引用自 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

havent heard anything about it, likely wont buy any of it anyways, stuffs getting way to expensive and i like living more than playing pc games.

but ya, no one needs that nonsense on their pc's... maybe for business, but not home users and for sure not "gamers".

It'll be either 15th or 16th generation, whenever Windows 12 launches, because they're probably going to launch side by side.

ya, win 11 is likely my last new OS (well, for windows), as for pc's... i dunno, but i never buy the new stuff anyway.

i was rocking a i7 6850k, bumped it up to a 6950x, so im quite far behind on the cpu gens.

[r.linder]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺：

It'll be either 15th or 16th generation, whenever Windows 12 launches, because they're probably going to launch side by side.

ya, win 11 is likely my last OS, as for pc's... i dunno, but i never buy the new stuff anyway.

i was rocking a i7 6850k, bumped it up to a 6950x, so im quite far behind on the cpu gens.

I don't even use Windows anymore. Modern Linux has improved so much that there's few reasons to choose modern Windows.

Gaming wise, the only reason is games with anti-cheat that won't work with Wine/Proton and don't have native support for Linux without compatibility layers. Most of everything else on Steam works fine because of Proton.

For general use it's smoother, usually lighter on resources, more secure, and does what you tell it to. No worries about forced updates and junk. Really old systems running a lightweight version of Linux would remain viable for general use for a good bit longer after 7 becomes completely unusable.

[Komarimaru]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 Komarimaru：

Exactly my point. Like people screaming Windows 10 has ads, when it's a simple turn off in Windows Store to disable recommendations.

everything has ads... why do you think people hate ads so much, people are getting tired of it...

turning it off, isnt the issue, its the fact its there to begin with...., all the hassle you have to go through to disable, remove, block, workaround, ect...

they not only use our data to target and serve us ads, but they use our internet (that we pay for) to send back said data they harvested.... and we get nothing for it, aside from harassment, annoyances and microsoft using our money to feed them with our data.

now they are shoving crappy AI in our OS's.... why do i need it? why wont it uninstall without force? or other programs microsoft feels like baking in...

Well, if the recommendations were hard to disable, I'd agree with you. But it takes 5 seconds. Everything in Windows 10 can be disabled in 7 seconds actually.

Ads have been a thing for decades, TV and Radio etc. But why we have ad blockers for the online stuff.

[MonkehMaster]

引用自 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

ya, win 11 is likely my last OS, as for pc's... i dunno, but i never buy the new stuff anyway.

i was rocking a i7 6850k, bumped it up to a 6950x, so im quite far behind on the cpu gens.

I don't even use Windows anymore. Modern Linux has improved so much that there's few reasons to choose modern Windows.

Gaming wise, the only reason is games with anti-cheat that won't work with Wine/Proton and don't have native support for Linux without compatibility layers. Most of everything else on Steam works fine because of Proton.

For general use it's smoother, usually lighter on resources, more secure, and does what you tell it to. No worries about forced updates and junk. Really old systems running a lightweight version of Linux would remain viable for general use for a good bit longer after 7 becomes completely unusable.

i have messed with quite a few linux distros, but its been awhile and i wasnt feeling it with all the work you have to put in... the last linux distro i bothered touching was kali linux (formerly backtrack 5) and the old steamOS...

actually i wouldnt even mind just running steam through steamOS, instead of on another OS.

[MonkehMaster]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

everything has ads... why do you think people hate ads so much, people are getting tired of it...

turning it off, isnt the issue, its the fact its there to begin with...., all the hassle you have to go through to disable, remove, block, workaround, ect...

they not only use our data to target and serve us ads, but they use our internet (that we pay for) to send back said data they harvested.... and we get nothing for it, aside from harassment, annoyances and microsoft using our money to feed them with our data.

now they are shoving crappy AI in our OS's.... why do i need it? why wont it uninstall without force? or other programs microsoft feels like baking in...

Well, if the recommendations were hard to disable, I'd agree with you. But it takes 5 seconds. Everything in Windows 10 can be disabled in 7 seconds actually.

Ads have been a thing for decades, TV and Radio etc. But why we have ad blockers for the online stuff.

and you expect everyone knows where, or knows about in general, said settings? or that the OS even does that?

most of those people, "if" they find out about it, are going to google or youtube to find out, where and how... so its more than "5 seconds", just saying.

and loads of them can watch a whole video, or read about it... and still have to ask for help... or not understand and mess something up.

example, i say "do you see that "insert thing here" in the top corner of steam", using the exact name and where to see it.... and they will still ask "where i dont see anything like that" and you literally have to show them a screenshot/or personally point at it, so they can find something...

[r.linder]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺：

I don't even use Windows anymore. Modern Linux has improved so much that there's few reasons to choose modern Windows.

Gaming wise, the only reason is games with anti-cheat that won't work with Wine/Proton and don't have native support for Linux without compatibility layers. Most of everything else on Steam works fine because of Proton.

For general use it's smoother, usually lighter on resources, more secure, and does what you tell it to. No worries about forced updates and junk. Really old systems running a lightweight version of Linux would remain viable for general use for a good bit longer after 7 becomes completely unusable.

i have messed with quite a few linux distros, but its been awhile and i wasnt feeling it with all the work you have to put in... the last linux distro i bothered touching was kali linux (formerly backtrack 5) and the old steamOS...

actually i wouldnt even mind just running steam through steamOS, instead of on another OS.

Garuda Linux is a variation of Arch Linux that I found really easy to setup, comes with pretty much every game launcher you'd need preinstalled with others easily installed from a GUI. Also comes with performance optimizations so it's the least amount of work to get a good linux gaming OS, but some do consider it a bit bloated and it can be a bit of a RAM hog.

I have the same performance optimizations as Garuda Linux on my copy of EndeavourOS but it's running slightly faster and doesn't use as much memory.

[Komarimaru]

引用自 MonkehMaster：

引用自 Komarimaru：

Well, if the recommendations were hard to disable, I'd agree with you. But it takes 5 seconds. Everything in Windows 10 can be disabled in 7 seconds actually.

Ads have been a thing for decades, TV and Radio etc. But why we have ad blockers for the online stuff.

and you expect everyone knows where, or knows about in general, said settings? or that the OS even does that?

most of those people, "if" they find out about it, are going to google or youtube to find out, where and how... so its more than "5 seconds", just saying.

and loads of them can watch a whole video, or read about it... and still have to ask for help... or not understand and mess something up.

example, i say "do you see that "insert thing here" in the top corner of steam", using the exact name and where to see it.... and they will still ask "where i dont see anything like that" and you literally have to show them a screenshot/or personally point at it, so they can find something...

Well, it literally asks you for 99% of it as you install the Operating System, so not hard to find in that regard.

And the Store one tells you when it happens, if you want to disable recommendations.

If they need to google it, should just a few seconds as well. You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

[MonkehMaster]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

and you expect everyone knows where, or knows about in general, said settings? or that the OS even does that?

most of those people, "if" they find out about it, are going to google or youtube to find out, where and how... so its more than "5 seconds", just saying.

and loads of them can watch a whole video, or read about it... and still have to ask for help... or not understand and mess something up.

example, i say "do you see that "insert thing here" in the top corner of steam", using the exact name and where to see it.... and they will still ask "where i dont see anything like that" and you literally have to show them a screenshot/or personally point at it, so they can find something...

Well, it literally asks you for 99% of it as you install the Operating System, so not hard to find in that regard.

And the Store one tells you when it happens, if you want to disable recommendations.

If they need to google it, should just a few seconds as well. You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

people who build their pc's install the operating system, not laptops and prebuilt desktops.

and the majority of people buy said prebuilts and laptops, so they never see any prompts to set privacy, or whatever and only ever learn about it or to do so after seeing, hearing or being told personally by someone who might know.

[KalGimpa]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 MonkehMaster：

and you expect everyone knows where, or knows about in general, said settings? or that the OS even does that?

most of those people, "if" they find out about it, are going to google or youtube to find out, where and how... so its more than "5 seconds", just saying.

and loads of them can watch a whole video, or read about it... and still have to ask for help... or not understand and mess something up.

example, i say "do you see that "insert thing here" in the top corner of steam", using the exact name and where to see it.... and they will still ask "where i dont see anything like that" and you literally have to show them a screenshot/or personally point at it, so they can find something...

Well, it literally asks you for 99% of it as you install the Operating System, so not hard to find in that regard.

And the Store one tells you when it happens, if you want to disable recommendations.

If they need to google it, should just a few seconds as well. You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

what is weird to me is that all of the major complaints about this are from years ago

win 10 is 8 years old

drivers have been updated in this time

people have created programs for those that do not want to dig though their settings

it is easy to use something like winaerotweak to get this done

it is like they are stuck in '15 and still pissed at how hard ms went at pushing win 10