SilentlyWicked 2023 年 11 月 24 日 下午 5:37
Vram issue?
Good evening, I was wondering if someone could help me out with this, I've been countlessly working on trying to fix this, so whenever I play a game, I get this error, "Out of memory trying to allocate a rendering resource" so to fix this, I've verified game files, Uninstalled reinstalled the game, deleted the game completely, replaced my GPU and Memory sticks and still nothing, I have even tried RESETTING my entire computer and I am still getting the error. Please tell me someone would have an answer...
最后由 SilentlyWicked 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 24 日 下午 5:38
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Rin 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 1:02 
I highly suggest to turn off pagefile if you have 32GB (or even 16GB if you know what you're doing) RAM. I've been gaming on PC since 2003 and was the first thing I turned off and never looked back. It is also a way to slowly degrade your SSD for no reason kinda like how Apple kills their soldered NAND.

There is absolutely no reason to have a pagefile running, especially as a gamer post 2007 unless you're running on <4GB VRAM because "it's fun and interesting" as some liked to put it. The game will allocate what is avail and flush the RAM if need be unless you play very specific trash titles like GTA5 which'll just keep writing into RAM ad infinitum.
Freqsync 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 1:29 
引用自 ŠÌŁÉNT
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K

GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 Black 10Gb
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 GT, 80 Plus Gold

RAM: CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 32GB x4

HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 4TB

Seagate BarraCuda 1TB

SDD: Seagate Barracuda 510 1TB SSD (HAS OS ONLY)

Seagate FireCuda 530 4TB x2 (Games and other things)


And the game trying to play is? Ark?
Render in lower resolution lowest possible?
Render GPU to power saving mode?
Kill any and all non windows running through msconfig?
Since already installed windows still run sfc and dism repairs.
Turn off cortana, turn off printers, stop sharing folders printers, kill emoji onscreen keyboard mode, just stop anything obviously useless during gaming
Make sure in desktop mode not tablet mode
Stop eating parts of the computer sub conscientiously.
check and alter sleep mode and other power options how hardrive wifi and gpu power is


If go through list and is not one of these. Train for and Run a marathon for a some years.


Course there is take a course on computers. Check bios make sure motherboard is okay with the ram and the port to the gpu was not damaged from changing from one to another. The memory could be either gpu or ram.. and then always almighty eventvwr.
最后由 Freqsync 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 1:52
SilentlyWicked 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:27 
If I wanted to do that Pagefile has nothing in it, if i try opening it tries to write it and then doesnt

引用自 Robotnik
I highly suggest to turn off pagefile if you have 32GB (or even 16GB if you know what you're doing) RAM. I've been gaming on PC since 2003 and was the first thing I turned off and never looked back. It is also a way to slowly degrade your SSD for no reason kinda like how Apple kills their soldered NAND.

There is absolutely no reason to have a pagefile running, especially as a gamer post 2007 unless you're running on <4GB VRAM because "it's fun and interesting" as some liked to put it. The game will allocate what is avail and flush the RAM if need be unless you play very specific trash titles like GTA5 which'll just keep writing into RAM ad infinitum.
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:52 
引用自 Robotnik
I highly suggest to turn off pagefile if you have 32GB (or even 16GB if you know what you're doing) RAM. I've been gaming on PC since 2003 and was the first thing I turned off and never looked back. It is also a way to slowly degrade your SSD for no reason kinda like how Apple kills their soldered NAND.

There is absolutely no reason to have a pagefile running, especially as a gamer post 2007 unless you're running on <4GB VRAM because "it's fun and interesting" as some liked to put it. The game will allocate what is avail and flush the RAM if need be unless you play very specific trash titles like GTA5 which'll just keep writing into RAM ad infinitum.

The OS ans many games will not function properly if you totally turn that off.
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:55
Rin 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:55 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
引用自 Robotnik
I highly suggest to turn off pagefile if you have 32GB (or even 16GB if you know what you're doing) RAM. I've been gaming on PC since 2003 and was the first thing I turned off and never looked back. It is also a way to slowly degrade your SSD for no reason kinda like how Apple kills their soldered NAND.

There is absolutely no reason to have a pagefile running, especially as a gamer post 2007 unless you're running on <4GB VRAM because "it's fun and interesting" as some liked to put it. The game will allocate what is avail and flush the RAM if need be unless you play very specific trash titles like GTA5 which'll just keep writing into RAM ad infinitum.

The OS ans many games will not function proif you totally turn that off.
And LP is superior to digital audio right? What year is this? 2003?
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:57 
引用自 Robotnik
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha

The OS ans many games will not function proif you totally turn that off.
And LP is superior to digital audio right? What year is this? 2003?

Well that's the sad part, it's 2023 and yet Windows still does need a PageFile even with 32GB of RAM

Trust me, things may appear to work properly but with that disabled many games will crash after a while of playing without a PageFile
Rin 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:07 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
引用自 Robotnik
And LP is superior to digital audio right? What year is this? 2003?

Well that's the sad part, it's 2023 and yet Windows still does need a PageFile even with 32GB of RAM

Trust me, things may appear to work properly but with that disabled many games will crash after a while of playing without a PageFile
Show me these applications then. The only ones I can think is a few EOL/abandonware apps from the early 2000s that has memory leaks and where x86-64 support was poorly implemented (i.e early Adobe apps) that was never fixed, Chromium which again is poorly coded and GTA5 which again is poorly coded. But GTA5 is a bad example because of how poorly coded it is. As it'll gladly eat 256GB if need be or even 512GB.

The only special use case would be VMs but then we are no longer talking about general usage are we?

And if it's about x86 apps then things such as https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/ does exist and can be fixed. Okami comes to mind which still only has a x86 client.
最后由 Rin 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:12
Crashed 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:20 
引用自 ŠÌŁÉNT
yup Im sure.

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
You sure you official NVIDIA GPU Driver and not one from MS WU?
If it is a desktop, the monitor is plugged into the GPU and not the motherboard? If a laptop you may need to use Windows Graphics Settings to override the preferred GPU for the game.
Freqsync 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 6:44 
引用自 ŠÌŁÉNT
If I wanted to do that Pagefile has nothing in it, if i try opening it tries to write it and then doesnt

Turn off pagefile, restart computer

Then follow this advise
引用自 xSOSxHawkens
Try setting it manually to 8192-16384mb range. I typically run 2:1 Page to Ram for 4GB physical ram or under, I run 1:1 on 10-16gb, and I tend to jump down to a 1:4 Page:Ram ratio once more than 32GB of physical ram is installed.

That did alleviate some issues couple years back yet now more ram and so forth was not necessary. Page file is definitely still necessary unless you like to reboot ever 12 hours. Even at 48 see this. 64 well that is gonna be tested with ddr6, ha.

Can add vulkan shaders through steam settings in DOWNLOADS.

There is also a shader cache size for nvidia gpu now you can set.

Course could upgrade driver for gpu and just the gpu no extra apps clean install and let default take over might prevent a memory leak.

Shut down overlay or just move all of steamapp out of steam folder, uninstall steam, restart, install move back steamapp go through process of each user agreement. Ack forgot to add gonna have to commit to finding everyone one of your saves and backing them up or the cloud might ruin everything.

Task manager is your friend open it and check thoroughly during one of those ram crashes create dump files.
WER\ReportArchive could house some important information. Reading however is another matter.
最后由 Freqsync 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 9:47
引用自 Robotnik
I highly suggest to turn off pagefile if you have 32GB (or even 16GB if you know what you're doing) RAM.
Very bad idea.

引用自 Robotnik
There is absolutely no reason to have a pagefile running
If the OP is doing this (they haven't told us yet what their page file is configured to even despite multiple people asking about that), that is disabling the page file, then this is most likely the cause of their problems. Even if we have say 64GB of ram and 10GB video card none of that matters. Many games actually require we configure the page file in windows and it be enabled and allowed to grow to a couple GB or they will throw up this "not enough memory available" errors.

We have to have the page file enabled and configured or some games will not run at all.

@ŠÌŁÉNT: If you disabled your page file then go re-enable it and see if this error goes away.
最后由 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 7:33
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 8:05 
Nothing to do with the PageFile if this is occurring at game launch though. That being an issue usually would only present itself later during gameplay.

Sounds more like an error you'd get when using an Intel iGPU
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Nothing to do with the PageFile if this is occurring at game launch though. That being an issue usually would only present itself later during gameplay.

Sounds more like an error you'd get when using an Intel iGPU
I have seen "no page file" causing "out of memory" errors when just starting a game many times in the past. For years and years I used to run with no pagefile then I started seeing the error and now I leave it enabled.
Illusion of Progress 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 8:55 
引用自 Robotnik
I highly suggest to turn off pagefile if you have 32GB (or even 16GB if you know what you're doing) RAM.
Very bad idea.
This!

I highly suggest that disabling the page file is a very bad idea, unless you want a high chance of being disallowed from having access to all of your physical RAM.

Too many people lack an understanding of memory management and it shows, because anyone who has even the faintest understanding would never suggest blindly that it be disabled just because a PC has a certain capacity of RAM. Unless you have vetted the needs of the user in question, you are not in a position to tell them they are fine with a lower commit limit. There's way too many realistic and practical workflows that do result in committing a lot more than they "use", and you'll run into issues if you push your RAM and have a limited page file setting in those situations.

This isn't some "optimization setting" thing. This is a "things commit more than they use, sometimes a lot more, and the possibility of headroom for if that disparity ever shows up is good to have" thing.

Your commit charge can not exceed your commit limit on Windows (it sometimes can on Linux... but then very bad things can start to happen [stuff basically just falls apart whereas Windows simply disallows it to get to that point to begin with, because Windows expects you to have responsibility and not set this where it will artificially limit you, whereas Linux takes the training wheels off and says "it's on you"]).

Let's simplify it to two facts, and yes, both are facts.

1. Your commit limit equals your installed physical RAM plus page file maximum.

2. Things tend to commit more memory than they use, sometimes a lot more.

Combining those two things, it's easy to see you will likely lose access to all of your physical RAM with a disabled page file. A manually set, small one is only marginally better.

For clarity, here is what "system managed" does. Your initial page file is ~1/8th your installed physicality memory amount. The maximum it can grow to three times your installed physicality memory amount, and it only does this if it sees your commit charge approaching the current commit limit. In other words, it adjusts this as needed, and this is how it should be. It doesn't reserve space that isn't needed, yet has the ability to when it is needed. It's adaptable. Why would you want it any other way?

"But I've done it since forever and didn't have issues" you say? Sure, that's possible, and even believable. I'm not saying you will have issues. I am saying you will possibly limit your access to your RAM capacity in any workload where the commit value is higher (and it almost always is). So the fact is, if you disable it (or manually set it to some low value) and don't have issues, then you're simply not pushing your RAM to begin with. Meaning you (not you, Fox; I'm agreeing with you/adding on to what you said) are not in a position to give advice on it to begin with. To give an analogy, it's like buying an RTX 4090, pairing it with a low wattage PSU, never actually pushing the GPU too much, and then saying it works. Sure, it does... because you're not actually pushing it, and therefore in a poor position to say what it could need. It's the same here.
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Nothing to do with the PageFile if this is occurring at game launch though. That being an issue usually would only present itself later during gameplay.

Sounds more like an error you'd get when using an Intel iGPU
I have seen "no page file" causing "out of memory" errors when just starting a game many times in the past. For years and years I used to run with no pagefile then I started seeing the error and now I leave it enabled.
Here, here! This was also me, until I learned (a little) better.

I had 16 GB in 2011 and thought maybe the page file was some unnecessary thing.

It sure was fun having Windows tell me I was low on memory with 10 GB/16 GB in use only playing Minecraft. Fun fact is it's worse today as I often play and have ~16 GB (sometimes much more) in use while ~32 GB (ditto) is committed, meaning if I had 32 GB RAM (I have 64 GB) and disable my page file as the above advice suggested, I'd then have issues with Windows saying I was out of memory (hitting commit limit!) at half capacity use and just playing Minecraft! Forget background stuff!
最后由 Illusion of Progress 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 8:59
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 11 月 28 日 下午 10:31 
Yea every time I thought "OK I have enough system RAM now, I can go ahead and turn that off"

Over the years and even as we speak, many games prove me wrong.

Windows OS itself might be fine without it enabled if you have around 32GB or more of RAM and never do gaming or pro-work app stuff. But if you do, then it's a must to not only leave it enabled, but manually set it better then what MS does when it's left on auto. Such as 8GB MIN and 32, 48, or 64 GB Max. All depending on how much system RAM you have installed of course.
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Windows OS itself might be fine without it enabled if you have around 32GB or more of RAM and never do gaming or pro-work app stuff. But if you do, then it's a must to not only leave it enabled, but manually set it better then what MS does when it's left on auto. Such as 8GB MIN and 32, 48, or 64 GB Max. All depending on how much system RAM you have installed of course.
Personally I have my computers configured with the minimum for the page file configured to 800 MB (the windows 10 and 11 minimum) but tell it to have the ability to grow up to twice my system ram if it needs it.

Some further additional information: Some system services just use the page file for their function because they are coded to do so. If the page file is disabled and that system service (I'm not sure which do require it and which do not) tries to run and use the page file and it doesn't exist then that service will fail. If it's a core windows service you could see blue screens and entire system crashes/hangs. In general it's a very bad idea to disable the page file.
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