165 hz vs 180 hz

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Hi

Is there a big difference in 165 hz to 180 hz monitors? Will i notice a difference in fps?

[Revelene]

You probably wouldn't be able to notice. Higher refresh rates have diminishing returns. Between 165hz and 180hz, it is only about a half millisecond difference of latency.

[RMJ]

ROFL where you start seeing a real difference is when you step up to 4k, Mine is only 60 hz I will take a 60 fps limit any day with 4k than 160 on a "screen door" display. And then struggle to see stuff at distances .

[MBK]

No, you won't notice it

[N3tRunn3r]

the more important is to have a monitor with a 1 ms response time, 120 or 144 Hz are enough. anything around 165 Hz and up are just "overkill"..

[_I_]

120-144 isnt much of a diff either

above 100 is harder to tell
but just because a monitor is rated at 165+hz, does not mean the panel can keep up
with moving images, pixels may never be the correct color

just enable gsync/freesync and its ok

[Guydodge]

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ROFL where you start seeing a real difference is when you step up to 4k, Mine is only 60 hz I will take a 60 fps limit any day with 4k than 160 on a "screen door" display. And then struggle to see stuff at distances .

ROFL i'll take it all with great gameplay,,ultra'd out graphics all effects in tack,RTX
@1440 while you turn everything down effects off no RTX with janky gameplay.and
strruggle to hold 60fps..wow sounds cool !!! i'd rather play at 1080p anyday.
4k is nothing more than a fools bid enjoy your 4k... lmao

and i own a 13900k with a 4090,so forget trying to BS me i know exactly how 4k
is.and i know exactly how it runs even if you own the best.ha NEWBS

[Guydodge]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από T_E_R_M_I_N_A_T_O_R:

Hi

Is there a big difference in 165 hz to 180 hz monitors? Will i notice a difference in fps?

most of those monitors that claim 165-180 are with a overclock that normally cause
issues when oc'd better to stick with 144hz.more than likely both the 165 and the 180hz
your looking at are actually a 144hz that can be overclocked.

[Andrius227]

I have a 165hz monitor but i run it at 120hz because anything more than that is a waste of power in my opinion. During summer i drop it down to 100hz or even 85hz to minimise the heat. Literally anything above 60hz looks perfectly fine to me.

[Min]

I bought monitor with 144hz but in games i can choose 165, is it possible ? Or it’s just seller mistake .. or 144 is almost same as 165

[De Hollandse Ezel]

you cannot display the frames per second if you dont have the hz to dispkay it.

as such if your fps is lower than your screens hz.. you might have a less optimal exoerience.. tjough g-sync/freesync does solce most those issues.

the reverse is true also.. if you have a 60hz screen you in effect are locjed at 60fps any ectra fps are not dispkayed.

fir the human eyes we see the world at around 60hz.. but hz hz on a screen is not perfectly timed.. there is a delay..
plus 6ohz is humab average some humabs can ser well above that.


persobally I find 60hz unwatchable.. 80hz acceorable.. 100hz I really cannot see much above
anything above 120hz.. I really doubt anybody cam see.


dlso to answer your question.. do higher hz monitirs have effect.. to a degree yes.
it sllows for bette4 spacing
if your fps is 100 and your screen has 180 hz.. and with sync on..

you will get
frame - dropped -frame - dropped - frame - dropped -frame - dropped - frame - ....
it us?as if you have 90hz for your eyes.. and its smooth with a repeat only every 9 frames.


if you instead have 120hz with that same 100fps it will sync as
frame -frame - frame - -frame - frame - dropped - .......
the more irregulair dropped frame makes it to your eyes more tiresome yo watch.


so for your eyes : anything under 60fps anything over 100fps is a waste
but for monitors the higher the hz the smoother and less stressfull for your eyes.

[Agent]

1440p 165 hz > 360 hz 1080p minecraft lookin panel.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

if you have 100 fps.. in 165hz

the sequence woulf be :
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped
it would watch as if you had 82.5fps

while in 180hz it would be

frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame

which would be smoother.. as it woukdxwatch as if you had 90fps

[Andrius227]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Min:

I bought monitor with 144hz but in games i can choose 165, is it possible ? Or it’s just seller mistake .. or 144 is almost same as 165

Many 144hz monitors come with 165hz overclock mode built in. Usually it can be enabled by pressing a single button on the monitor and it has no downsides. Might even be enabled by default.

So you probably have such monitor. Mine is like that too.

[_I_]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από De Hollandse Ezel:

if you have 100 fps.. in 165hz

the sequence woulf be :
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped
it would watch as if you had 82.5fps

while in 180hz it would be

frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame

which would be smoother.. as it woukdxwatch as if you had 90fps

not dropped, its duplicates the previous frame

frame pacing would be uneven, which is why you should use gsync/.vsync to lower the refresh rate to match the output

[De Hollandse Ezel]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από De Hollandse Ezel:

if you have 100 fps.. in 165hz

the sequence woulf be :
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped - frame - dropped
frame - frame - dropped
it would watch as if you had 82.5fps

while in 180hz it would be

frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame - dropped - frame

which would be smoother.. as it woukdxwatch as if you had 90fps

not dropped, its duplicates the previous frame

frame pacing would be uneven, which is why you should use gsync/.vsync to lower the refresh rate to match the output

I already said "I presume with sync on"
and yes you are correct in the repeating frame before.. I just called it dropped which indeed technicaally is the wrong term.

point remains.. a screen with a higher hz.. will give more evenly timed frames... which gives a visual higher fps.. and is calmer on the eyes.. even if you don't notice consiencely.. a more irregulair display will feel uneasy on the eyes.

so if you want it said correclty :

180 hz, sync on, 100fps
11.1ms frame 1,6,11,16,...
11.1ms frame 2,7,12,17....
11.1ms frame 3,8,13,18....
11.1ms frame 4,9,14,19.....
5.6ms frame 5,10,15,20......

165hz, sync on, 100fps
6.1ms frame 1,4,7,10,13,16,19
12.1ms frame 2,5,8,11,14,17, 20
12.1 ms frame 3,6,9,12,15,18
(repeat)

so longer per frame... (12.1 vs 11.1) and more irregulair (2 long frames vs 1 short.. vs 180hhz 4 long on 1 short)


so a higher hz screen will always give a better display than one with a lower hz.. regardless of the fps you are outputting.