Is cherry MX red suppose to feel mushy like a membrane KB?

[THE LORD]

First time using a cherry MX red and it's the cherry G80 3000S full size.

Is red switch suppose to feel that way?

Still, it's way better and easier to type on than my previous galax with blue switch. This garbage is way too stiff and way too loud, and within a few months started to have multiple registration issues.

[Pocahawtness]

Origineel geplaatst door THE LORD:

Origineel geplaatst door 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺:

No, It's not supposed to, probably just how the KB was made

So what is it supposed to feel like? People say reds are noisy but mine is not. Surely it couldn't be a fake cherry KB, right?

Note: It's not the silent red version. Just plain red.

Exactly what I was going to ask!! The Silent Red are soft feeling. Having said that, you get used to them in a few days. But if its not that, then really I have no idea why they would be mushy feeling.

[r.linder]

Silent red switches also have a more washed out red or salmon coloured stem when you take off the keycap, not the regular red stem.

[Guydodge]

Origineel geplaatst door 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺:

KBs with better construction, actual sound dampening in the chassis, and good switches (not Cherry) are so much better even though some of them end up costing more than even some of the most expensive "complete" keyboards on the shelf from brands like Mountain.

Exhibit A: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3125266539

Cherry switches aren't that good these days, the clones and originals from other brands like Akko, EPOMAKER, TTC, Gateron, Kailh, etc. have surpassed Cherry. Gateron's Aliaz silent switches are actually almost silent in a board that's properly set up for noise, Box Kailh are just a tad nicer than Cherry and I really liked their Blues compared to Cherry's Blues, and I've used both EPOMAKER Flamingos and Akko Cream Black Pro V3s which I vastly prefer over any Cherry switch I used in the past.

With linear and tactile switches, the majority of the sound doesn't even come from the switch itself, it comes from the keycaps and the keyboard itself. A case without any dampening will always sound pretty rough. When MX SIlent first launched only on Corsair, I had the first Strafes that had them, and they were TERRIBLE. Terribly mushy, not very quiet, and the spacebar was a regular Red switch and was so loud that it ruined the whole point of the board.

keyboards are a personal preference you could have 10 people and you would get varied
results for feel and sound.just like a monitor its user specific.one size does not fit all.
build and reliability are another discussion.

[r.linder]

Origineel geplaatst door Guydodge:

Origineel geplaatst door 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺:

KBs with better construction, actual sound dampening in the chassis, and good switches (not Cherry) are so much better even though some of them end up costing more than even some of the most expensive "complete" keyboards on the shelf from brands like Mountain.

Exhibit A: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3125266539

Cherry switches aren't that good these days, the clones and originals from other brands like Akko, EPOMAKER, TTC, Gateron, Kailh, etc. have surpassed Cherry. Gateron's Aliaz silent switches are actually almost silent in a board that's properly set up for noise, Box Kailh are just a tad nicer than Cherry and I really liked their Blues compared to Cherry's Blues, and I've used both EPOMAKER Flamingos and Akko Cream Black Pro V3s which I vastly prefer over any Cherry switch I used in the past.

With linear and tactile switches, the majority of the sound doesn't even come from the switch itself, it comes from the keycaps and the keyboard itself. A case without any dampening will always sound pretty rough. When MX SIlent first launched only on Corsair, I had the first Strafes that had them, and they were TERRIBLE. Terribly mushy, not very quiet, and the spacebar was a regular Red switch and was so loud that it ruined the whole point of the board.

keyboards are a personal preference you could have 10 people and you would get varied
results for feel and sound.just like a monitor its user specific.one size does not fit all.
build and reliability are another discussion.

You say that as if I don't know that people can have preferences.

I was stating actual facts that a lot of people who actually bothered to try different things have echoed over the years since Cherry's patent expired and other manufacturers (as well as individuals) started creating their own mechanical switches and experimenting with keyboards.
Cherry's switches are not the best switches on the market by far, they're hardly ever even recommended by people in the DIY keyboard fanbase because they're nothing more than the baseline for mechanical switches, and there's no such thing as a preference when it comes to a quality keyboard that includes proper construction and materials to minimise or eliminate things like case and switch ping, a hollow sounding case, KB/PCB flex, etc.
There is knowledge from experience, ignorance from a lack of experience, or a complete lack of care for reasons usually based in finance (but even cheap kits can sound better than keyboards over 200 bucks if you put the effort in). If you prefer a crap sounding/feeling keyboard (not including how the switch sounds because obviously there's a small difference in sound due to its construction), then good for you, but you're wrong.

[kingjames488]

membrane keyboards are getting pretty good these days... tho I think one could still tell by the travel that it's a real switch.

[Revelene]

You aren't feeling the switch, but rather the rest of the board. Most gaming keyboards are like this.