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5600X3D you can get away with just sticking an EVO 212 Black Edition on it. The problem with this cooler is the fan, it belongs in the trash. A better cooling fan from brands like Corsair or BeQuiet would be much better.
It all depends on pricing and availability. A cheaper version of the 5800x3D in the form of the 5700x3D, which might even work with a stock cooler and actually be available, unlike the 5600x3D, could be interesting. AMD tends to price their products too high at launch just to get bad reviews, but they are quick to lower their prices soon after.
I'm not sure if I see AMD including cooling with this though, and I'm not sure I would expect it to cost less than a 5600X3D either. And if not, it's going to end up being too close in price to the 5800X3D while performing a fair bit worse (and even losing to the 5600X3D more often than not).
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-launching-ryzen-7-5700x3d-am4-cpu-in-q1-2024
Apparently, there's possibly also two more supposed AM4 CPUs though besides these supposed X3Ds? They are called the "5000GT" series that will be even more budget end?
At this point AM4 will be stumbling around still when AM5 is getting put to rest. Or, more likely, AM5 will assume an elongated budget role itself when AM6 replaces it.
AM4 was promised support until 2020, and here it might be getting releases in 2024. That's seven years on one platform. The starting Ryzen CPUs were on par Sky Lake in per core performance (though with more cores) and the fastest one is on par with Alder Lake/Zen 4 in gaming. Imagine that much of a performance span on Intel's side. It'd be like if a Sandy Bridge owner could drop a 10th generation chip in. That's crazy to imagine.
Here's my prediction if this does release. The 5700X3D is going to have a clock speed deficit beyond what the existing X3D CPUs already have, so that means it will gain less relative to its non-X3D counterpart. With the 5800X3D being ~20% faster than the 5800X, this means the 5700X3D will be closer to maybe ~15% faster than the 5700X? It definitely should be slower than the 5600X3D as well, despite the model number irony, but since the 5600X3D was a limited thing and probably mostly sold out now (let alone come 2024), then it won't matter much. AMD will therefore have all the room between the 5700X (which has been as low as $160) and 5800X3D (typically ~$320) to price it. At ~$200 yo $220, it might do well for those who find the 5800X3D too costly, and with the slight added performance deficit due to the lower clock speeds, it won't threaten the AM5 CPUs as much so it won't hurt AM5 to launch it, but it should still surpass everything on the AM4 platform in gaming besides the 5800X3D and 5600X3D, so it might tempt some AM4 owners to buy it. I'm putting it between 5% an 10% slower than the 5800X3D, and more towards the 10% figure. And If it's 65W it might lose a few % more?
And if the 5500X3D releases, it will be in a similar spot, but ~3% to 5% slower than the 5700X3D (reason for 3% is I believe this is the same disadvantage the 5600X3D has against the 5800X3D, which are using the same clock speeds so we can presume that is what is lost due to the difference in core count).
It was, as expected based on recent rumors, an 8 core/16 thread CPU with a 3 GHz base frequency and 4.1GHz boost frequency. We have an answer to the unknown from the rumors and that is the TDP; it's 105W instead of 65W. We also have a price. It will cost $249.
I'm mixed.
Pricing is okay. Not phenomenal enough to make the 5800X3D a better choice but not too high it makes the 5700X3D entirely pointless. And this is presuming the price doesn't go lower later. AMD's MSRPs are sometimes higher and then drop in relation to that later. The 5800X3D seldomly sells for as high as its $449 MSRP after all.
Performance is where I'm more mixed. Missing out on 400 MHz that the 5800X3D has over it will hurt it. While the X3D's make up for clock speed with cache, it's going to be missing even more. I still expect this outperform the non-X3D Ryzen 5000 parts (5600, 5700, 5800, 5900, etc.), but not by as much, and perhaps with some bigger losses in the cases where the cache doesn't help. I think the 5800X3D will be worth the premium over it as long as it stays around $320, but lower cost options are nice. Saving ~$70 for anyone on a really old AM4 CPU like a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series isn't nothing. More amusingly though, the 5600X3D will likely outperform this more often than not, namely whenever core count isn't limiting it, and that's not often. That's because the 5600X3D is only missing 100 MHz compared to the 5800X3D, compared to the 400 MHz this 5700X3D will be missing. Since the 5600X3D was limited in availability, maybe the 5600X3D outperforming it on average won't matter. Maybe the 5600X3D itself was a test run for interest in lesser AM4 X3D CPUs.
There were other CPUs and APUs announced for both AM4 and AM5 but those are beyond the original discussion of this thread.
The Ryzen 5 5500X3D, however, was not mentioned or announced. If this one happens later, and especially if it is 65W and $200 or under, I could see appeal for it.
No they want you to upgrade to AM4 5700X3D, just have to sell the DDR5, MB, old cpu for the swap, EZ.
5700X3D is more for someone who doesn't mind staying on AM4 but has an older Ryzen and needs an affordable step-up
The 5800X3D/5600X3D are about as fast as the Ryzen 7000 series non-X3D. I expect the 5700X3D in particular to lag a bit behind though. The extra 400 MHz deficit is going to hurt. I expect it to sort of be between the 5000 and 7000 series. Better than the 5700X, 5800X, 5900X, etc., but not as good as the 7600X, 7700X, etc.
The 7800X3D (and Ryzen 9s) are probably going to be similar to Zen 5 non-X3D in gaming. And then the Zen 5 X3Ds will be unmatched for that by anything else AMD has.
Yes the 5700X3D will have a value spot, but it's still going to be less of a value than the 5600 and 5700X ($180 to $210), while not being near as good on performance as the 5600X3D/5800X3D, so I have my doubts on how popular it will be. But that all depends on pricing. If the 5700X3D sticks to $250, then with the 5800X3D going up $340 to $360 lately, it's losing some appeal there. I think the 5800X3D becomes a better option in the $300 to $320 range but the 5700X3D gains viability if it's above that.
Either way you wouldn't want to look at either of these CPUs if building new. The only point to go for AM4 new is if you're doing it for value and only the 5600 and 5700X have that. The 5700X3D and 5800X3D have value only if you're already on AM4. Once Zen 5 releases and is out for a bit I see AM4 starting to fade finally. So these are are likely the last substantial releases for the AM4 platform but it's been quite a life for it. Eight years later and it's still right there. This is probably going to go down as the most legendary socket of all time. The only thing that comes close is socket 775 (since it held both the disastrous Pentium 4 and much better Core 2 Duo which made it capable of big jumps too) and even that doesn't compare.
Only time will tell. As it is, I find the 7900X3D odd yet it exists, so who knows. There was a 5600X3D (and rumored 5500X3D) but that was limited. I think if it comes at all it will be later. It's clear AMD is using AM4 for the budget role still while AM5 can't quite fulfill that as well, so maybe a Zen 4-based hex core X3D doesn't make much sense yet.