Good CPU upgrade from i5 8600k

[Bing Chilling]

willing to upgrade mobo aswell

budget is around 500 CAD for mobo and CPU (ill stick with my ddr4 for now if i can)

thanks in advance

full spec:

i5 8600k
gtx 1070 (upgrading to a rx 6650xt soon)
16gb ddr 3200mhz
750w evga 80+ gold

[r.linder]

It's not really worth keeping to DDR4 considering the performance is generally worse and DDR5 prices aren't bad at all. But if you want to stick to DDR4 regardless, your only options are socket AM4 and socket LGA1700 (i.e. Ryzen 5000 series or Intel 12th~14th gen)

You should be able to get a 7600 or 7700X, a half decent B650 board, and 32GB DDR5 within 500$ USD

Step up to a 6700-XT, not much point in getting a 6650-XT because it's just inferior in value and performance

[nullable]

The wife had an i5 8600k and I put her in a i7 12700k, but I opted for a DDR5 based motherboard.

A 12th or 13th gen i5 would be a good upgrade. There's DDR4 boards available for either. If you were to go AMD, you may be limited to the 5000 series Ryzen CPU's, I don't think the 7000/AM5 CPU's support DDR4.

Although I would generally agree with 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺 DDR5 is pretty cheap (about half as much when I early adopted) so if it's me, I'm going to jump to DDR5. Reusing your DDR4 won't cripple your system or anything, but if you end up having the budget for it. New CPU/Motherboard might benefit from some new RAM.

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por nullable:

If you were to go AMD, you may be limited to the 5000 series Ryzen CPU's, I don't think the 7000/AM5 CPU's support DDR4.

They do not, correct, because there are no DDR4 motherboards for AM5 and AMD specifically wanted to leave it out likely because of EXPO

[Bing Chilling]

Publicado originalmente por 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺:

It's not really worth keeping to DDR4 considering the performance is generally worse and DDR5 prices aren't bad at all. But if you want to stick to DDR4 regardless, your only options are socket AM4 and socket LGA1700 (i.e. Ryzen 5000 series or Intel 12th~14th gen)

You should be able to get a 7600 or 7700X, a half decent B650 board, and 32GB DDR5 within 500$ USD

Step up to a 6700-XT, not much point in getting a 6650-XT because it's just inferior in value and performance

if i'd have to go upto ddr5 for a cpu worth getting, i would.

as for the 6700-XT, it's basically $600 cad out here
the 6650xt is only $305 cad, it's not really in the budget
not to mention the 6700xt is only like 20% ish faster

il def take a look into the 7600 and 7700x though

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por Bing Chilling:

Publicado originalmente por 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺:

It's not really worth keeping to DDR4 considering the performance is generally worse and DDR5 prices aren't bad at all. But if you want to stick to DDR4 regardless, your only options are socket AM4 and socket LGA1700 (i.e. Ryzen 5000 series or Intel 12th~14th gen)

You should be able to get a 7600 or 7700X, a half decent B650 board, and 32GB DDR5 within 500$ USD

Step up to a 6700-XT, not much point in getting a 6650-XT because it's just inferior in value and performance

if i'd have to go upto ddr5 for a cpu worth getting, i would.

as for the 6700-XT, it's basically $600 cad out here
the 6650xt is only $305 cad, it's not really in the budget
not to mention the 6700xt is only like 20% ish faster

il def take a look into the 7600 and 7700x though

Didn't notice that it was CAD and not USD, so yeah AM5 isn't going to fit in your budget because it's way too low for quality parts, even just a 7600 and the cheapest B650 is around 450$ and the cheapest DDR5 kit is another 110$

AM4 is probably in your best interest because LGA1700 would be too expensive to be worth it, even with DDR4, with AM4 you can almost squeeze in a 5800X3D if you go with the cheapest motherboard you can find for around 60 bucks and it would stomp most CPUs

I would wait for motherboard deals or try to find a used B450, B550, or X570 motherboard for a good price because the 5800X3D is worth the price

[Bing Chilling]

Publicado originalmente por 尺．し工几ᗪヨ尺:

Publicado originalmente por Bing Chilling:

if i'd have to go upto ddr5 for a cpu worth getting, i would.

as for the 6700-XT, it's basically $600 cad out here
the 6650xt is only $305 cad, it's not really in the budget
not to mention the 6700xt is only like 20% ish faster

il def take a look into the 7600 and 7700x though

Didn't notice that it was CAD and not USD, so yeah AM5 isn't going to fit in your budget because it's way too low for quality parts, even just a 7600 and the cheapest B650 is around 450$ and the cheapest DDR5 kit is another 110$

AM4 is probably in your best interest because LGA1700 would be too expensive even with DDR4, with AM4 you can almost squeeze in a 5800X3D if you go with the cheapest motherboard you can find for around 60 bucks and it would stomp most CPUs

yeah i was just looking at those cpus you mention previously,they don't fit into that budget
but i see that 5800x3d for a decent price

also, this upgrade is in 2 parts
gpu now, cpu next month

[N3tRunn3r]

If you really want to upgrade your CPU/Motherboard by now, I recommend to wait for upcoming 14th Gen. If you can wait a year longer, I highly recommend to get Intel 15th Gen as these will be their real upgrade. 14th Gen is just a 13th Gen revamp..

And be sure to be DDR5 compatible.

Someone already mentioned, your CPU is still ok. Overclock it safely. Thats why you own a K-series..!! Upgrade your GPU first, add additional 16 GB RAM of same brand, and wait for 14th/15th Gen.

You even own a sexy EVGA 80 GOLD 750 W PSU ..

[spicy little monkey]

Publicado originalmente por N3tRunn3r:

If you really want to upgrade your CPU/Motherboard by now, I recommend to wait for upcoming 14th Gen. If you can wait a year longer, I highly recommend to get Intel 15th Gen as these will be their real upgrade. 14th Gen is just a 13th Gen revamp..

And be sure to be DDR5 compatible.

Someone already mentioned, your CPU is still ok. Overclock it safely. Thats why you own a K-series..!! Upgrade your GPU first, add additional 16 GB RAM of same brand, and wait for 14th/15th Gen.

You even own a sexy EVGA 80 GOLD 750 W PSU ..

14th gen is already out and there's nothing really special about it that's improved from 13th gen.

[N3tRunn3r]

Publicado originalmente por Mitsuha:

..
14th gen is already out and there's nothing really special about it that's improved from 13th gen.

Yup.

[Julien, cut it out.]

I'd defenitely not build a new system because of the upgrade to a more modern, but mid-range GPU. The RX 6650 XT is basically an RX 6600 XT, which is comparable in performance to an RTX 2080.
Coffe Lake (8th gen) CPU's performance (IPC) should suffice to power (provide data to GPU) such a GPU without being a limiting factor.

I do not understand the suggestions of the other forum members of an AM5 or a newer Intel build. You'd end up paying more than 500 USD for such a build just to be able to enjoy your new, 250 USD GPU.
The biggest part of a budget for a gaming PC should be spent on the GPU.


The biggest downside of your current CPU is the lack of Hyperthreading; it offers 6 cores and 6 threads. For modern, more heavily multi-threaded titles, the lack of more threads hurts the performance.

If I were you, I'd look at the second-hand market for either a
- 8700k (offers 6 cores with HT) or a
- 9700k (8 cores without HT) or a 9900k (Coffee Lake refresh)

I'd heavily favor a 9900k. The CPU offers 8 cores with HT and its performance should be more than enough for an RX 6650 XT. It is compatible with your motherboard and I've seen 9900k for under 100USD.
Buy some good cooling for it.

[Bing Chilling]

Publicado originalmente por N3tRunn3r:

If you really want to upgrade your CPU/Motherboard by now, I recommend to wait for upcoming 14th Gen. If you can wait a year longer, I highly recommend to get Intel 15th Gen as these will be their real upgrade. 14th Gen is just a 13th Gen revamp..

And be sure to be DDR5 compatible.

Someone already mentioned, your CPU is still ok. Overclock it safely. Thats why you own a K-series..!! Upgrade your GPU first, add additional 16 GB RAM of same brand, and wait for 14th/15th Gen.

You even own a sexy EVGA 80 GOLD 750 W PSU ..

my cpu is fine for single player games but heavily struggles in alot of newer multiplayer titles

[Mr White]

AMD simply because they tend to stick to one motherboard socket for a while. Which means you upgrade your processor without buying a new motherboard each time.

[Monk]

Aren't AMD changing the socket for their next set of chips?

Sticking to ddr4 is fine, ddr5 only really takes the lead on either very expensive or very fast heavily tuned memory, below that ddr4 is fairly equal or potentially faster, depending on the sticks, if you have some decently low CL 3200 sticks it might match the low priced ddr5 stuff.

[N0REGARD4LIFE]

Can’t go wrong with a 13600k on a z690 board. Lots of bundles out there too.

[N0REGARD4LIFE]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

Aren't AMD changing the socket for their next set of chips?

Sticking to ddr4 is fine, ddr5 only really takes the lead on either very expensive or very fast heavily tuned memory, below that ddr4 is fairly equal or potentially faster, depending on the sticks, if you have some decently low CL 3200 sticks it might match the low priced ddr5 stuff.

Haven’t heard that. If so imma be pissed. I just ditched my z790 board and 13700k to have a better upgrade patch with a new AM5 set up.