4090s will be in short supply for the next 2 years

[River]

Is this true?

Just asking not looking to sell.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

引用自 ★Sinon★ <3：

But EVGA also made literal garbage like the EVGA W1
Had 4 Thermaltake PSUs personally and only 1 of them survived the test of time
Didn't have experience with Antec or going through products but nothing off seems to be about them.

While I agree that reviewers aren't the end game. they do represent general expectations and do it well if you go with trusted sources.
Not to mention that it depends on which reviewer as well. I would take Gamers Nexus's word far more seriously than Linus Tech Tips's word for example
both Guru3D and AnandTech exist since the late 90s with very much proven track record

So far there hasn't ever been any examples of any power supplies from EVGA, Antec, or Thermaltake that caught fire, melted, or exploded at least.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

There are still 47 models of 4090 in sale.

I checked and 38 of them have current stock.

25 have current stock at brick&mortar store locations (walk in purchase)

but yes prices are rising and suppply is drying up.. likely production has ceased to launch 4090ti?

but the 4xxx series is also slowly nearing and stores not want to be left with 2000 euro cards as that happens so more stores move to we order one when a customer orders one.

the rare top models like galax hof and similair top models are indeed sold out but those were limited from the getgo.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I still don't get the point of this thread. Was it meant to be like all those other fake news who are trying to scare people and hope they rush out and buy more 4090 GPUs sooner rather then later?

If you want one, I would think you'd have it by now. If not, then really who cares. The prices aren't going to come down until future GPUs come out.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

I still don't get the point of this thread. Was it meant to be like all those other fake news who are trying to scare people and hope they rush out and buy more 4090 GPUs sooner rather then later?

If you want one, I would think you'd have it by now. If not, then really who cares. The prices aren't going to come down until future GPUs come out.

also : my 980ti was 700 euro
also my 2080ti was 1600 euro.

a 4080ti has not yet released..
but it likely sits between the 1200 of a 4080 and 2000 of a 4090.

them old prices aint returning.
and its for the better..

better pay 5000 euro and get the card of the exact brand and model you want from a local shop with warranty.

than to pay 2000 euro and have to settle for "any model or brand"

and certainly than to pay 1000 euro but have 2 year waiting lists.

[River]

It was a honest and genuine question.

[ChickenBalls]

just wait for 5090

[Amuro0079]

引用自 PopinFRESH：

I think you guys should actually read the ban. It is banning the sales of those devices in China It is an export ban.

Ban on the GPU chips themselves or the actual retail cards or both? Last I checked they're banning commercial use and manufacturing of 4090 in China, but consumer retail cards are exempted or at least licenses can be applied. It's all very confusing.

Hong Kong's HKPEC pointed out that RTX 4090 can still be sold in the Chinese consumer market, meaning that Chinese gamers can still buy the 4090. Chinese media also noted that the import of RTX 4090 into China has not been severely affected. After a brief period of hoarding and speculation, market prices are expected to return to normal ranges. However, the import of HPC chips into China is increasingly limited, which is an undeniable fact.

Based on the details published by the Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS), Chinese consumer market can be exempted from the latest restrictions, as the ban on HPC chips primarily targets data center applications. Even though the performance of RTX 4090 has surpassed the threshold placed by the US, its positioning for consumer entertainment purposes allows it to be imported into China.

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20231023PD213/gpu-china-nvidia.html

[Illusion of Progress]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

Personally I will only ever spend money on actual trusted name brand power supply makers like Antec, Thermaltake, and EVGA. None of the models from any of those 3 have ever had issues even their cheap ones. They're known reliable at all tiers for 15+ years without even thinking about it and we don't need some "review personality person" to tell us that.

I'm not sure I'd use Thermaltake as an example of "trusted" or "for decades, all of their units were known to be reliable" when you had the original TR2 series from back then that was known overrated and mediocre (the only reason the TR2 430W didn't burn up was because the over power protection tripped at ~350W, which... still doesn't make it reliable for what it's presenting itself as, especially when it was an old design adapted from the Pentium III days when most of the power was drawn on the 5V rail instead of the 12V rail, so the 12V rail itself couldn't even do 250W), and the whole situation where they were sending Pure Power models to review outlets and then changing them later to just be that same TR2 430W inside a different housing, and then getting caught, and then changing the name back.

[hackintoshchap]

引用自 gamer：

It was a honest and genuine question.

Nvidia have been not been shipping RTX 4090 parts to AIB partners for months in order to tighten supply and therefor keep the RTX 4090 price from dropping. Nvidia want to maintain a premium for their flagship consumer model.

Will they keep this up until the 5090 releases in 12-18 months, I don't see why not, people have demonstrated a willingness to pay top dollar, its the best consumer card available and it has better value for money on a cost per frame basis than lower tier card have.

Why reduce margins?.

[Electric Cupcake]

Nvidia is overrated trash anyway.

[Jamebonds1]

引用自 Monk：

The majority of the 'melting' issues was from ables not being fully pressed in and faulty aftermarket cables, especially with the cablemod 90 degree adaptor.

Further issues (which I suffered) was with the 2 very thin sensor cables ring easily damaged or nudged so that the gpu would have its power turned off (cablemods new cable fixes this).

Honestly, the new cable design is stupid, multiple 8 pins worked fine without any of these problems and I think they looked far better also.

Looking at my custom cables, the triple bridged 8 pins on my 3090 vs the single 12vhpwr on the 4090 is a step backwards in looks and reliability, plus the new cable definetly gets warmer to the touch.

I prefer to use third-party 12vhpwr for good reasons. PCI-SIG was never responsible for doing safety tests, except for manufacturers. I used the 12vhpwr cable that come with my new PSU.

[ChickenBalls]

引用自 Electric Cupcake：

Nvidia is overrated trash anyway.

overrated and overpriced

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

引用自 Illusion of Progress：

I'm not sure I'd use Thermaltake as an example of "trusted" or "for decades

I have 4 different power supplies from ThermalTake ranging from 400 watts to 700 watts in the house in various computers. They have been fine for 10~12 years so far. EVGA power supplies go in computers that I overclock a lot for the low ripple noise too and my router computer is powered by an old 350W Antec EarthWatts. None of these have ever died on me yet. By sticking to these 3 brands I haven't had to replace a power supply in any computer since we moved into this house about 13 years ago.

[Illusion of Progress]

*shrugs*

I wasn't saying they didn't work for you, and to be clear, you do you. If you like them, use what you want.

I was just saying it caught my eye that someone would describe Thermaltake's history that way, because that's unusual for the reputation they are typically known to have.

Antec and EVGA, on the other hand, are typically considered pretty good on almost all of their units, yes (though I've heard some of EVGA's recent really low end stuff is bad, but I can't comment as I haven't been following PSUs).

[N0REGARD4LIFE]

引用自 Naughtius Maximus：

Is this the ones that keep burning out because Nvidia has zero quality control

Another parrot who doesn't know what they are talking about. It never ends with your turds.