Looking for GPU to upgrade that support mesh shaders under $250?

[Chouchers]

It can be new,used and refurbished. However my PSU is only 500 watts.

[Cathulhu]

A DX12 capable videocard for under 250 bucks? Maybe an Intel ARC 580. Or an AMD RX 6600.

[r.linder]

RX 6600 is probably your best bet

[Chouchers]

I'm keeping on RX6600. Alan wake 2 is game i'm upgrade my rx580 8gb over was plan just stay with it until I seen show poor Alan wake 2 runs on my gpu duo lack of mesh shaders. I'm fine with low framerates around 30's but 2 fps is way too low.

[wesnef]

Newegg has some 6650xt's for $230-250.

edit: although those might be pushing it for your PSU. /hmmm

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Chouchers:

I'm keeping on RX6600. Alan wake 2 is game i'm upgrade my rx580 8gb over was plan just stay with it until I seen show poor Alan wake 2 runs on my gpu duo lack of mesh shaders. I'm fine with low framerates around 30's but 2 fps is way too low.

6600 is the listed minimum, should be playable if the requirements are accurate but you could always use FSR

[Chouchers]

Ok I going get a 6650xt AMD list Minimum PSU Recommendation is 500 W so my PSU should be fine.

[Illusion of Progress]

For $250, the best options seem to be the RTX 3050 on nVidia's side or the RX 6650 XT on AMD's side. The RTX 3060 8 GB is a bit above this, but don't bother. Even the RTX 4060 is comparable at best to the cheaper RX 6650 XT. The RX 7600 is also a bit above this. If you were to spend up past that, the RX 6700 XT is the only thing that makes sense to do it to. That would likely want a better PSU though, which would add to the cost a bit (what is the exact PSU you're using though?)

As for your RX 580 running Alan Wake 2, it probably won't be pretty. Cards without mesh shader support incur a huge penalty. For support of that, you'd need an RTX 2000 series or above on nVidia's side or an RX 6000 series or above on AMD's side. Pascal (GTX 1000 series) and RDNA1 (RX 5000 series) or older don't support mesh shaders. I think the GTX 1600 series might (?) as it's based on Turning and simply lacks the Tensor (RTX) cores, but whether they are fast enough when the RTX 2060 is listed as a minimum is another matter.

Supposedly, the GTX 1080 was able to run the game... but spoiler alert, at the absolute lowest settings (!), and at 1080p, and that is upscaled from 360p (!) using AMD's FSR Ultra, it still only averages 30 FPS with dips half as low.

https://www.pcgamer.com/alan-wake-2-mesh-shader-support/

The game apparently needs an RTX 3070 just to run 1080 upscaled (that means less than 1080p internally to 1080p) at high settings at 60 FPS, and an RTX 4070 or above for full ray tracing (AMD doesn't even show up there). So with a $250 GPU, I'd temper expectations with this one.

That's not me saying "you need to buy more". That's not me saying "give up on the game you want to play". It is just pointing out "be aware you might be left unsatisfied even after the upgrade" because this game looks rough, and it's sad that's even a possibility in today's graphics card market.

[Chouchers]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

For $250, the best options seem to be the RTX 3050 on nVidia's side or the RX 6650 XT on AMD's side. The RTX 3060 8 GB is a bit above this, but don't bother. Even the RTX 4060 is comparable at best to the cheaper RX 6650 XT. The RX 7600 is also a bit above this. If you were to spend up past that, the RX 6700 XT is the only thing that makes sense to do it to. That would likely want a better PSU though, which would add to the cost a bit (what is the exact PSU you're using though?)

As for your RX 580 running Alan Wake 2, it probably won't be pretty. Cards without mesh shader support incur a huge penalty. For support of that, you'd need an RTX 2000 series or above on nVidia's side or an RX 6000 series or above on AMD's side. Pascal (GTX 1000 series) and RDNA1 (RX 5000 series) or older don't support mesh shaders. I think the GTX 1600 series might (?) as it's based on Turning and simply lacks the Tensor (RTX) cores, but whether they are fast enough when the RTX 2060 is listed as a minimum is another matter.

Supposedly, the GTX 1080 was able to run the game... but spoiler alert, at the absolute lowest settings (!), and at 1080p, and that is upscaled from 360p (!) using AMD's FSR Ultra, it still only averages 30 FPS with dips half as low.

https://www.pcgamer.com/alan-wake-2-mesh-shader-support/

The game apparently needs an RTX 3070 just to run 1080 upscaled (that means less than 1080p internally to 1080p) at high settings at 60 FPS, and an RTX 4070 or above for full ray tracing (AMD doesn't even show up there). So with a $250 GPU, I'd temper expectations with this one.

That's not me saying "you need to buy more". That's not me saying "give up on the game you want to play". It is just pointing out "be aware you might be left unsatisfied even after the upgrade" because this game looks rough, and it's sad that's even a possibility in today's graphics card market.

This PSU that I got.
https://www.amazon.com/ARESGAME-Supply-Certified-Modular-Warranty/dp/B0BDCKFJJT/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?crid=10KU9GZSNFRSN&keywords=ASWG%2B500w&qid=1698620281&sprefix=aswg%2B500w%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-2-fkmr1&th=1

My expectations are not high been running games on laptop with 1050 ti until it stop working duo GPU failed few months ago.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Chouchers:

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

For $250, the best options seem to be the RTX 3050 on nVidia's side or the RX 6650 XT on AMD's side. The RTX 3060 8 GB is a bit above this, but don't bother. Even the RTX 4060 is comparable at best to the cheaper RX 6650 XT. The RX 7600 is also a bit above this. If you were to spend up past that, the RX 6700 XT is the only thing that makes sense to do it to. That would likely want a better PSU though, which would add to the cost a bit (what is the exact PSU you're using though?)

As for your RX 580 running Alan Wake 2, it probably won't be pretty. Cards without mesh shader support incur a huge penalty. For support of that, you'd need an RTX 2000 series or above on nVidia's side or an RX 6000 series or above on AMD's side. Pascal (GTX 1000 series) and RDNA1 (RX 5000 series) or older don't support mesh shaders. I think the GTX 1600 series might (?) as it's based on Turning and simply lacks the Tensor (RTX) cores, but whether they are fast enough when the RTX 2060 is listed as a minimum is another matter.

Supposedly, the GTX 1080 was able to run the game... but spoiler alert, at the absolute lowest settings (!), and at 1080p, and that is upscaled from 360p (!) using AMD's FSR Ultra, it still only averages 30 FPS with dips half as low.

https://www.pcgamer.com/alan-wake-2-mesh-shader-support/

The game apparently needs an RTX 3070 just to run 1080 upscaled (that means less than 1080p internally to 1080p) at high settings at 60 FPS, and an RTX 4070 or above for full ray tracing (AMD doesn't even show up there). So with a $250 GPU, I'd temper expectations with this one.

That's not me saying "you need to buy more". That's not me saying "give up on the game you want to play". It is just pointing out "be aware you might be left unsatisfied even after the upgrade" because this game looks rough, and it's sad that's even a possibility in today's graphics card market.

This PSU that I got.
https://www.amazon.com/ARESGAME-Supply-Certified-Modular-Warranty/dp/B0BDCKFJJT/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?crid=10KU9GZSNFRSN&keywords=ASWG%2B500w&qid=1698620281&sprefix=aswg%2B500w%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-2-fkmr1&th=1

My expectations are not high been running games on laptop with 1050 ti until it stop working duo GPU failed few months ago.

You'll want to replace that unit when you can.

The entire ARESGAME brand can't be trusted because they've been known to manipulate review samples, downgrade their designs after reviews, change components without significant differences in the branding, and they've paid for favourable reviews.

A cheap unit like that isn't going to be very good at all and it might even fail, potentially damaging your hardware.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's not just about the PSU; but also ensure that you have enough 6 and/or 8 pin GPU connections for what a particular GPU will require.

[Felexiia]

Honestly, your best course is buying a used GPU. They work well and you save over 50% depending on what you get.

I bought the RTX 3070 for 250€ to upgrade from a GTX 1080.

A really good upgrade and it should work with a 500W PSU just about, but you really need to upgrade that PSU to atleast 650W, preferrably 700/750W depending on your pcs configuration since in a power spike scenario your pc could shut down.

Also ensure the card you get fits your case and you got enough PSU connectors to power it. You can google the card you want to get and TDP to know what PSU is recommended.

Edit: I just saw you have a cheap PSU, this thing might aswell be a fire cracker and a big one at that. Get a gold or titanium rated SeaSonic PSU, will last you 10 years and upwards.

Also what CPU you got? I got a 7700K for my RTX 3070 and this is a bottleneck already. The GPU cannot use its full potential since the CPU is not fast enough.

[Chouchers]

My PSU has both 6 pin and 8 pin,

My CPU is Ryzen 5 5600g
Motherboard Asrock A520M-ADV