Crazy Gsync flickering

[Cheetah]

I noticed crazy Flickering while I use Gsync in some games.
For Example in the crew motorfest, if I start this game and it loads, the whole loading screen flickering like crazy. If I am in the game, it still flicker a few second and then it is away. Is my asus Monitor damaged?

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I can't read all these comments...

If the monitor is G-Sync rated internally - I would reinstall the last best driver you know of that was stable.

If this is a Free-Sync monitor with G-Sync software backing - check to see if you are even using G-Sync (soft).

From my experience with flickering, and Nvidia GPU's, a few settings are WRONG as Default -

Low Latency Mode (especially when running G-Sync) - set to Ultra (default is wrong)

Power Management Mode - set to Prefer Max Performance (default is again WRONG for Desktop systems)

These are the major two that are totally wrong with Nvidia settings.

Artifacts are NOT "bust-outs" in which "flickering" does NOT mean the GPU is dying - artifacts CAN be but that is if you are OC or stressing heat. "Bust-outs/flickering" can be fairly non-damaging as with artifacts could be very extreme.

Flickering, IMO, is not a "death sentence" for any GPU but artifacts can be...

A good test is always to lower all GPU settings and see if the flickering still exists - if so - go from there but in this case scenario, personally, I would suspect the GPU and to use GPU-Z, or similar software, to monitor the heat sensors and see if it's a thermal throttle.

If the "hotspot" is above recommended, you could attempt reapplying proper thermal paste (but please refrain from cheap-ass silicone-based thermal paste and go with either silver or graphene-based paste for longevity).

If the GPU was bought on say eBay, totally check the therms...

Hope this helps a bit.

[Piston Smashed™]

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

Publicado originalmente por Piston Smashed™:

What screen tearing? I haven't seen screen tearing since the early 2000's. Besides that why I have GSync monitors, it stops screen tearing. I have plenty of frame rates, I don't get a half or a third of the frames, how can I if I have my settings set to unlimited...

Even if you have gsync on it doesn't do anything for you when you exceed the refresh rate of your screen. If you have a 240hz screen and play a game at 300 FPS you get tearing. I can see it myself with my own eyes. If I turn off vsync (or any other frame limiter) and play a game at say 160 or 200 FPS on my 144hz screen I get tearing. Even with gsync on.

You said you play games with gsync on and no frame limiter so you get tearing then at some point.

I do but I don't just crank up everything to get the max FPS possible. I actually prefer to have eye candy over performance but it must have smooth game play. So, I also set my settings to high quality in Nvidia plus one or two others, then in game if I don't set everything to max. I'll mess around with the settings to get the game looking good while also performing well if the max settings don't quite feel right. After all whats the point in having a decent graphics card if you're not going to take advantage of the eye candy and high FPS they can produce.

I have never had any problems in my games, games like Counter-Strike I can get 300 FPS or so with it upscaled to 4K and everything maxed out but I have never once seen any tearing in game or any game. I'm also running Netflix or something on my second monitor while playing games.

I also do use Geforce Experience at times, I will allow it to set the games settings and see how they feel while playing. If I find something not quite right then I will tweak them to something I feel is better but for the most part I find Geforce Experience along with my settings works pretty well. I know a lot of people don't like Geforce Experience but I find it OK.

You're not the first person to call me a liar for having a PC which runs smooth with no problems and you'll not be the last but end of the day I know my PC. I built my PC with good parts, I know that I have no problems with heating or screen tearing because had I had any of those things happening then I would take action to stop them from happening right away because I have maintained and looked after my PC's for over 25 years of PC gaming.

[Pocahawtness]

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

Publicado originalmente por Piston Smashed™:

What screen tearing? I haven't seen screen tearing since the early 2000's. Besides that why I have GSync monitors, it stops screen tearing. I have plenty of frame rates, I don't get a half or a third of the frames, how can I if I have my settings set to unlimited...

Even if you have gsync on it doesn't do anything for you when you exceed the refresh rate of your screen. If you have a 240hz screen and play a game at 300 FPS you get tearing. I can see it myself with my own eyes. If I turn off vsync (or any other frame limiter) and play a game at say 160 or 200 FPS on my 144hz screen I get tearing. Even with gsync on.

You said you play games with gsync on and no frame limiter so you get tearing then at some point.

Publicado originalmente por PopinFRESH:

It's odd how you changed to that tone after Rod gave an actual reputable source that says your claims were wrong.

It doesn't matter how "reputable" you think someone is. All "screen testing" is done in a sandboxed testing environment where they repeat the same thing over and over to try and find some tiny little 1ms or 1 FPS difference. That's what "review websites" do. As I said before: That has nothing at all to do with actually playing games for hours on end where the scenes and situations are always changing.

Anyone trying to quote or point at some "review website" as "truth" is just laughable.

I didn't read all the posts but what M3GA is saying is correct.

If you are using GSYNC then the correct way is disable VSYNC in the game and use the NVIDIA control panel to limit the frame rate to two below the refresh rate of the monitor.

I believe it is possible to use VSYNC and GSYNC at the same time, although I know nothing about that and honestly I don't see the point. I have not seen any problems in years.

When NVIDIA first introduced GSYNC, it turned out that my monitor was compatible and they backdated Freesync compatibility so my GPU worked too. But it wasn't very good. Some games worked, some didn't and in general it was not so good.

But that situation has slowly changed over the years. It is now pretty rare to find a monitor that won't work flawlessly with a modern GPU.

At present, my monitor and GPU are less than a year old, so they are quite new. I never see any issues at all. Games that were dodgy before, now work perfectly. I have both GSYNC and Freesync monitors and it just doesn't make any difference. Well, provided you stay above 48fps, which I don't have a problem doing.

[PopinFRESH]

Publicado originalmente por Ghostly👻Pocah:

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

Even if you have gsync on it doesn't do anything for you when you exceed the refresh rate of your screen. If you have a 240hz screen and play a game at 300 FPS you get tearing. I can see it myself with my own eyes. If I turn off vsync (or any other frame limiter) and play a game at say 160 or 200 FPS on my 144hz screen I get tearing. Even with gsync on.

You said you play games with gsync on and no frame limiter so you get tearing then at some point.


It doesn't matter how "reputable" you think someone is. All "screen testing" is done in a sandboxed testing environment where they repeat the same thing over and over to try and find some tiny little 1ms or 1 FPS difference. That's what "review websites" do. As I said before: That has nothing at all to do with actually playing games for hours on end where the scenes and situations are always changing.

Anyone trying to quote or point at some "review website" as "truth" is just laughable.

I didn't read all the posts but what M3GA is saying is correct.

If you are using GSYNC then the correct way is disable VSYNC in the game and use the NVIDIA control panel to limit the frame rate to two below the refresh rate of the monitor.

....

They are saying the exact opposite of that. They are saying to enable VSYNC in-game which will only add input delay for no benefit in comparison to disabling VSYNC in-game and enabling VSYNC in NVCP and setting a frame rate limit just near your monitors max Gsync range refresh rate.

[Pocahawtness]

Publicado originalmente por PopinFRESH:

Publicado originalmente por Ghostly👻Pocah:

I didn't read all the posts but what M3GA is saying is correct.

If you are using GSYNC then the correct way is disable VSYNC in the game and use the NVIDIA control panel to limit the frame rate to two below the refresh rate of the monitor.

....

They are saying the exact opposite of that. They are saying to enable VSYNC in-game which will only add input delay for no benefit in comparison to disabling VSYNC in-game and enabling VSYNC in NVCP and setting a frame rate limit just near your monitors max Gsync range refresh rate.

Oh right. OK. I misunderstood then.

From a personal point of view, I have never seen any point in enabling VSYNC. The system I described works flawlessly, so why mess?

[Pocahawtness]

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

Publicado originalmente por Ghostly👻Pocah:

Oh right. OK. I misunderstood then.

From a personal point of view, I have never seen any point in enabling VSYNC. The system I described works flawlessly, so why mess?

I use it because it's quick, simple, and easy to use. The people in this thread want us to instead go in the nvidia control panel -> look through the list of 5000 nvidia supported games to find the 1 game we want to play -> set a frame limiter setting there. For each and every game that we want to play and again every time we install a new game.

Ha ha! That's what I do.

Well, actually, no. I usually set the global limit and then just tweak it for an individual game if it struggles to achieve global limit.

Luckily there are only a few games that won't achieve that limit.

They don't get reset, though. I suspect you must be doing a thorough uninstall/install. I'm more slutty than that.

[PopinFRESH]

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

...I'm not going to sit here and re-configure 100+ profiles every time nvidia releases a new driver. That's such a terrible waste of time. We all have a limited amount of time left on this planet. Why waste it with something that isn't necessary to do?

Publicado originalmente por Ghostly👻Pocah:

...They don't get reset, though. I suspect you must be doing a thorough uninstall/install. I'm more slutty than that.

Ironic....

[Cheetah]

I don't want to get too excited, maybe the problem will come back, but it seems that I have fixed the problem. I set the monitor in Windows to 120 instead of 144 hz, the flickering is completely gone, but I'm not getting excited too soon, who knows, maybe it'll come back again. I think I'll buy a Gsync monitor with an IPS panel soon, but first I would test a new cable.

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por Cheetah:

I don't want to get too excited, maybe the problem will come back, but it seems that I have fixed the problem. I set the monitor in Windows to 120 instead of 144 hz, the flickering is completely gone, but I'm not getting excited too soon, who knows, maybe it'll come back again. I think I'll buy a Gsync monitor with an IPS panel soon, but first I would test a new cable.

Could be the cable or could be the monitor itself, I had an ASUS ROG STRIX XG27VQ that developed an issue where the display would intermittently flicker and glitch tf out above 100Hz (both 120 and 144 but 100 worked fine) happens for other machines, regardless of the cable

[Rod]

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

Publicado originalmente por Ghostly👻Pocah:

Oh right. OK. I misunderstood then.

From a personal point of view, I have never seen any point in enabling VSYNC. The system I described works flawlessly, so why mess?

I use it because it's quick, simple, and easy to use. The people in this thread want us to instead go in the nvidia control panel -> look through the list of 5000 nvidia supported games to find the 1 game we want to play -> set a frame limiter setting there. Then they want us to do that for each and every game that we want to play and then do it again every time we install a new game. Which also by the way: Those profiles all get reset when we update to a new nvidia driver and then they think we're going to go in and re-set all of that AGAIN every time we update drivers too. They tell us that's a normal and proper way to use our computer.

Or instead we can just go in the game's settings menu and tick on vsync and enjoy the game, and that setting will stay on through every nvidia driver update without having to re-configure everything again.

I'm not going to sit here and re-configure 100+ profiles every time nvidia releases a new driver. That's such a terrible waste of time. We all have a limited amount of time left on this planet. Why waste it with something that isn't necessary to do?

LOL you do it globally once not per game. Even after being told 3 times this guy doesnt listen. Also your posts are a waste of time where you could be setting it up right.


What else to say really? Just wild imo.

[Rod]

Publicado originalmente por PopinFRESH:

Publicado originalmente por M3GAHURTZ:

...I'm not going to sit here and re-configure 100+ profiles every time nvidia releases a new driver. That's such a terrible waste of time. We all have a limited amount of time left on this planet. Why waste it with something that isn't necessary to do?

Publicado originalmente por Ghostly👻Pocah:

...They don't get reset, though. I suspect you must be doing a thorough uninstall/install. I'm more slutty than that.

Ironic....

Yea they dont always reset LOL and why would you clean install every new driver why not every 90 days and reset the global profile? TLDR hes right we and blurbusters are wrong, Welp ill shut up now.

[gorba]

Hi! I was able to fix this issue for my LG 27GR93U-B by doing a few things:

1. I switched from a DisplayPort cable to an HDMI cable. For G-SYNC, DisplayPort is generally a lower-grade option compared to HDMI, as HDMI supports a stable refresh rate of 120 Hz. For the best experience—especially with cables over 3 feet—go with a high-quality HDMI cable.

2. Opened the NVIDIA Control Panel and selected "Set up G-SYNC." Then, enabled "G-SYNC, G-SYNC Compatible" and chose "Enable for windowed and full screen mode." This ensures G-SYNC works for general use including apps and games running in windowed or borderless window modes.

3. Finally, I went into the display's menu (usually accessed by a button under the screen), opened "Settings", navigated to "Game Adjust", and set "VRR" to "Basic." You typically don't want "Extended." This is designed for lower-end machines trying to push the Hz to 144 or higher, but if you have a powerful setup, you don’t need it. "Extended" can be buggy and often causes constant flickering on and off. LG notes that.

After making these adjustments, I’ve been playing "Elite Dangerous" for about 4 hours with no issues, and the colors and refresh rate look fantastic in 4K!