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With some of my perennial fav games like Serious Sam series, Crysis Remastered, etc, once such games are installed, I'd hardly be inclined to uninstall them as I have plenty of storage space.
It's not much different then the EVO really and it depends where you are looking for your prices.
870 EVO has quite good prices for 2TB and 4TB though.
870 QVO is one the best to grab up when there is a good deal on 8TB; which is quite often nowa days.
I have purchased over a dozen 870 QVO 8TB to be used as Games drives in various builds; not a single problem with them. Just as fast as 870 EVO series if you really want to know.
But yes sometimes the pricing overall can be hit or miss depending on various sales and such.
Like as we speak the NVME 970 EVO 1TB is on-sale for $30
1TB in my opinion is more for an OS Drive.
For secondary SSDs you will definitely want 2TB minimum; if not 4TB.
All these other brands are junk; like ADATA, TeamGroup. And even many of the drives from Crucial. Stay away from SanDisk stuff and Seagate.
WD and Samsung all the way.
Sabrant Rocket series for NVME needs is also very good.
Could probably just be that it was some of the first really affordable external SSDs to come out; where plenty of the whole use of NVME was blindly tossed around during marketing.
SATA speed M2 SSDs aren't all that bad, but yes I see what you mean.
I'm sure the specs regarding read & write + IOPS would have revealed the bigger picture.
4TB of that model is approx $138 also.
I've just never personally used that brand of SSDs; only their RAM I have used before.
That's not saying the QVO isn't good enough for anything. There's plenty of uses where it's fine.
The thing is, it typically costs almost as much as the MX500 or Blue3D, which are high end SATA drives.
It's like picking a Core i3 10100F over a Core i7 12700K at roughly the same price. Even if the former is "more than good enough", it's still a questionable choice in my eyes.
So I find the QVO hard to recommend because it's priced to close to much faster options.
At 8 TB yes it's a different story since there's simply much fewer options at that capacity point. I was even looking at those a while back (I have a 5 TB HDD and I'd like to move it to an SSD and I'd rather go to 8 TB with it than 4 TB). But at 2 TB and 4 TB, there's better options.
For pricing I usually look at pcpartpicker at a glance, but yes that won't always tell you the cheapest you can find it everywhere in the world (I know it doesn't show Micro Center). If the QVO is priced well then yes it's completely fine. Reason I said avoid it is because at typical pricing for most online e-tailers, it is usually not.
Not from what I'm seeing, so can you source me where it is? Perhaps I am missing something.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&c1=di_sata.60&A=1920000000000,4096000000000&sort=price&page=1
At 2 TB, it's actually more expensive than the MX500 or Blue3D. That's absurd. $103 or $105 respectively compared to $120. Who pays more for a slower drive?
At 4 TB it's actually cheaper... by a whole $7. It's $203 and both the MX500 and Blue3D are $210. I'd personally spend the extra, what, 3% if it meant stepping up to a much better drive, but maybe that's just me.
It needs to be priced around the BX500 to make sense because that's the drive tier it compares to.
Well I'm not saying there's a problem with the drive itself. I'm just saying it seems priced so poorly that I don't see why you'd recommend it.
If you're going to use the "it's as fast as a faster drive" angle (which isn't true), then that simply means you don't need the speed and you could just pick the absolute cheapest thing that exists, and that isn't the QVO.
And if you approach it from the angle of wanting a good drive, better drives are cheaper.
I just don't see any scenario where it's a good choice. At all. Samsung just doesn't seem price competitive in the SATA market these days. They're actually far more competitive in the NVMe market right now, but not the SATA one.
Case in point, and sure, that's fantastic pricing. Like, fantastic. Looking up the SN770 it's $50 so that's a heck of a deal on the 970 Evo.
Though I have certain brands I tend to prioritize myself, I don't entirely agree with this assessment.
There's a number of drives from the brands you're listing as bad that are fine.
And on the other hand, Samsung and Western Digital aren't infallible.
Samsung has made many missteps from the SATA days up until today with NVMe.
Western Digital was fine before because they had good value, but it wasn't until the SN850 (which is relatively recent) that they competed in performance.
870 EVO you will (due to various recent pricing changes online) find that usually the prices for this model in a 2TB or 4TB is very good pricing. But to get a decent price on 8TB may see the need to go with something such as 870 QVO.
QVO might not be good if using for a video dump or editing drive all day long but I have all my games now mostly on 870 QVO 8TB since Nov 2021 and haven't had any issues; and the drive is nearly full with approx 120GB left. I have a NAS w/ 4x WD Gold 8TB HDDs with everything backed up just in case.
But yea it should be obvious I would hope that if you were to compare 870 EVO vs QVO and you find that the EVO 2TB has a better price, definitely go for it if that's all you need.
Not sure what to say. You're missing the one very obvious point. It has nothing to do with drive capability or speed. The QVO and Evo might be fine drives in a vacuum but that's not the point. It has everything to do with price relative to other options in the market. If you can get better alternatives for the same price, why choose them?
I just showed you where the 870 Evo and QVO are both not well priced. We'll agree to disagree I suppose, because you keep saying "you can shop around" but have never showed me where it's priced well compared to alternatives.
The 870 QVO is Samsung's low tier drive and is equivalent to the Crucial BX500 or WD Green (low end SATA, no DRAM, QLC, etc.). The 870 Evo is Samsung's high tier drive and is equivalent to the Crucial MX500 or WD Blue 3D (high end SATA, DRAM, TLC, etc.). Yet, the 870 QVO (low tier drive) is typically priced closer in line with the MX500 and Blue 3D (high tier drives), and the 870 Evo is priced higher.
Who chooses something lesser at the same price?
Pricing varies to some extent, yes, but this has typically been the routine parity for these drives for a while now (and it was at the time I responded to you). That structure makes neither of them worth it by default and that was my point. You still seem to have the impression it's about the QVO not being good enough in a vacuum and that's not it... at all.