Bad Aim Oct 8, 2023 @ 2:03pm
Keyboards
I current am using 2 keyboards, both broken in some way but together make a full keyboard.

My former keyboard was a Logitech G510s. It is an AMAZING gaming keyboard. But, the keys are fading. And worse, some of the keys no longer work. I don't know why. I have taken the keyboard apart 4 times now. The 2nd time I was able to get some of the keys to work again.

The keys that are not working are the "k" key, the "4" key above the main keyboard, and the "7" key on the keypad.

So, I have been looking for a new keyboard. At first I looked for the G510s. That is a no-go. I can buy the keyboard used, but at $400, that is more than I am willing to pay for a new keyboard, much less a used one on ebay or Amazon.

So, my question to you all is, what keyboard can I buy (budget of around $200) that is like the G510s?

Features I like on the G510s (in order):
  • Full size
  • Back light
  • number pad
  • media control keys on the keyboard (play, pause, volume up/down)
  • The programmable Gkeys
  • The mini LCD screen
My only must for a keyboard is it needs to be wired. I do not like wireless keyboards or mice.

I thank you for your help.

The Logitech G510s
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G510s-Gaming-Keyboard-Screen/dp/B00BCEK2LU
Last edited by Bad Aim; Oct 8, 2023 @ 2:06pm
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Electric Cupcake Oct 8, 2023 @ 2:29pm 
96% or 100% layout Royal Kludge with MX brown or red.

edit. I think they're all wireless, but work fine tethered.
https://rkgamingstore.com/products/rk920?variant=39652667326642
Last edited by Electric Cupcake; Oct 8, 2023 @ 2:35pm
r.linder Oct 8, 2023 @ 2:38pm 
SteelSeries Apex Pro is very similar to what you're looking for if you want a little LCD screen and there's some programmability through their software which isn't bad

I would still recommend looking at Keychron though, they make some nice keyboards that hardly need any work to be as good as much more expensive custom boards.
Bad Aim Oct 8, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
My issue with wireless keyboards is I do like to play a couple of MMO's. I am always bouncing from one MMO to another depending on budget and what I feel like playing.

I have owned wireless keyboards and mice in the past. What happens, typically, is the keyboard and/or mouse will give indication that it is running out of power by not logging all key strokes or mouse movement/clicks. In MMO's, this always seems to come at the worst possible time.

And this has also come at a time where I was not getting paid for another week so had to go without my keyboard for a week. That was torture for me.

So, I decided that wireless was out for me. The problems I am experiencing now could happen to a wired or wireless keyboard. These things are not designed to last for decades or even years. They wear out and finally fail.

I did just get off of chat with Logitech to find out if I could pay them to repair my keyboard. Weirdly, they said no. I would have thought that if a customer was willing to pay $200 for what would probably be $20 in parts and maybe a couple hours in labor (if that) they would be willing. But, nope.

I did look at the keyboards recommended above. I know and understand that the LCD screen is probably out. It was a novelty that really wasn't practical. All the LCD did was show things like remaining ammunition or some other bit of info. It was typically easier to look at the computer screen to get that information rather than take your eyes off the monitor to look down at your keyboard to see how much ammo you had left. But I liked the feature even if I rarely used it. It was fun to have and really was there for bragging rights more than anything else. Bragging rights are a major part of being a PC gamer! :scrooge:

I can live without the LCD screen. It was last on my list. The programmable Gkeys were nice, but again, more of a novelty than anything else. The only thing I ever used them for was when I made macro's in MMO games I played that allowed macro's. (SWG would be an example of one)

So that really boils down to a full size wired keyboard. It would be nice if it had a back light and media control keys on the keyboard (play, pause, volume up/down). Being full size means it is going to have a number pad on the side. I still play some games that use the number pad for movement. (Sid Meier's Pirates as an example)

Again, I thank you for your help. If you can recommend some place in the U.S. that would be willing to repair the keyboard and is willing to work with out of state customers, that would be great too.
Last edited by Bad Aim; Oct 8, 2023 @ 3:33pm
r.linder Oct 8, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Cernunnos:
My issue with wireless keyboards is I do like to play a couple of MMO's. I am always bouncing from one MMO to another depending on budget and what I feel like playing.

I have owned wireless keyboards and mice in the past. What happens, typically, is the keyboard and/or mouse will give indication that it is running out of power by not logging all key strokes or mouse movement/clicks. In MMO's, this always seems to come at the worst possible time.

And this has also come at a time where I was not getting paid for another week so had to go without my keyboard for a week. That was torture for me.

So, I decided that wireless was out for me. The problems I am experiencing now could happen to a wired or wireless keyboard. These things are not designed to last for decades or even years. They wear out and finally fail.

I did just get off of chat with Logitech to find out if I could pay them to repair my keyboard. Weirdly, they said no. I would have thought that if a customer was willing to pay $200 for what would probably be $20 in parts and maybe a couple hours in labor (if that) they would be willing. But, nope.

I did look at the keyboards recommended above. I know and understand that the LCD screen is probably out. It was a novelty that really wasn't practical. All the LCD did was show things like remaining ammunition or some other bit of info. It was typically easier to look at the computer screen to get that information rather than take your eyes off the monitor to look down at your keyboard to see how much ammo you had left. But I liked the feature even if I rarely used it. It was fun to have and really was there for bragging rights more than anything else. Bragging rights are a major part of being a PC gamer! :scrooge:

I can live without the LCD screen. It was last on my list. The programmable Gkeys were nice, but again, more of a novelty than anything else. The only thing I ever used them for was when I made macro's in MMO games I played that allowed macro's. (SWG would be an example of one)

So that really boils down to a full size wired keyboard. It would be nice if it had a back light and media control keys on the keyboard (play, pause, volume up/down). Being full size means it is going to have a number pad on the side. I still play some games that use the number pad for movement. (Sid Meier's Pirates as an example)

Again, I thank you for your help. If you can recommend some place in the U.S. that would be willing to repair the keyboard and is willing to work with out of state customers, that would be great too.
If you can let go of media keys (I could, I never needed them and found them pointless) then I would look at Keychron's K10 series, they make great quality keyboards and they don't cost that much. They look like a big change from the G510S because they are, but it's well worth it.

They have different switch options, red switches are a common popular switch for gamers, blues are good for typing, and browns are in the middle

link[www.amazon.com]
Last edited by r.linder; Oct 8, 2023 @ 3:44pm
Bad Aim Oct 8, 2023 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by 尺.し工几句ヨ尺:
Originally posted by Cernunnos:
My issue with wireless keyboards is I do like to play a couple of MMO's. I am always bouncing from one MMO to another depending on budget and what I feel like playing.

I have owned wireless keyboards and mice in the past. What happens, typically, is the keyboard and/or mouse will give indication that it is running out of power by not logging all key strokes or mouse movement/clicks. In MMO's, this always seems to come at the worst possible time.

And this has also come at a time where I was not getting paid for another week so had to go without my keyboard for a week. That was torture for me.

So, I decided that wireless was out for me. The problems I am experiencing now could happen to a wired or wireless keyboard. These things are not designed to last for decades or even years. They wear out and finally fail.

I did just get off of chat with Logitech to find out if I could pay them to repair my keyboard. Weirdly, they said no. I would have thought that if a customer was willing to pay $200 for what would probably be $20 in parts and maybe a couple hours in labor (if that) they would be willing. But, nope.

I did look at the keyboards recommended above. I know and understand that the LCD screen is probably out. It was a novelty that really wasn't practical. All the LCD did was show things like remaining ammunition or some other bit of info. It was typically easier to look at the computer screen to get that information rather than take your eyes off the monitor to look down at your keyboard to see how much ammo you had left. But I liked the feature even if I rarely used it. It was fun to have and really was there for bragging rights more than anything else. Bragging rights are a major part of being a PC gamer! :scrooge:

I can live without the LCD screen. It was last on my list. The programmable Gkeys were nice, but again, more of a novelty than anything else. The only thing I ever used them for was when I made macro's in MMO games I played that allowed macro's. (SWG would be an example of one)

So that really boils down to a full size wired keyboard. It would be nice if it had a back light and media control keys on the keyboard (play, pause, volume up/down). Being full size means it is going to have a number pad on the side. I still play some games that use the number pad for movement. (Sid Meier's Pirates as an example)

Again, I thank you for your help. If you can recommend some place in the U.S. that would be willing to repair the keyboard and is willing to work with out of state customers, that would be great too.
If you can let go of media keys (I could, I never needed them and found them pointless) then I would look at Keychron's K10 series, they make great quality keyboards and they don't cost that much.

You can't pause MMO's. Some MMO's will minimize if you click on something on your second monitor.

I love to play games, both MMO's and single player, with a movie, YouTube, or my own music going. There are times that I need to hear the in game dialogue to know what is going on or talk to guild mates on our raid. I know they don't want to also hear what I am listening to when I talk. That is why the media keys are pretty important to me.

Also, I am taking another look at the keyboards you are recommending via the link. They look like good keyboards. I will check on the reviews of the keyboards themselves and the company.

Than you.
Last edited by Bad Aim; Oct 8, 2023 @ 3:48pm
ZAP Oct 8, 2023 @ 4:01pm 
Macros on a mouse is nice. G600 mouse and G413 (is that a gamer version K840?) is a pretty slick combo. Not unnecessarily loud for the sake of being loud either.

Could maybe afford both right now too.
pasa Oct 8, 2023 @ 4:03pm 
googling "create keyboard shortcut like media keys" provides ton of promising hits. You don't need actual media keys for what you describe unless really incapable to find a key combination for them that is free in all games. (Though I heard some key macro programs get detected by anticheat crap)
Shaggy Oct 8, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
I replaced my Logitech G510 with the SteelSeries Apex 7. I have really been liking it.
AZIO Retro Classic USB
Bad Aim Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by ZAP:
Macros on a mouse is nice. G600 mouse and G413 (is that a gamer version K840?) is a pretty slick combo. Not unnecessarily loud for the sake of being loud either.

Could maybe afford both right now too.

I'm running with the G600 now. It has seen better days but the damn thing will not die. The macro keys on the side of the mouse are not the best configuration, for me at least. I tried it once and end up up getting confused on what key was what, they are all placed so close together.

I am also really confused on what the 3rd mouse button is for. It has the standard left and right. But next to the right is a third mouse button. But it doesn't seem to do anything. The Logitech software that you can get off the website doesn't give you any options for it. Hell, it doesn't even make mention of the 3rd mouse button.
Bad Aim Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by Introverted Gamer:
AZIO Retro Classic USB

That is a bit out of my price range. $300 and I could buy the G510s. Amazon has that keyboard at $289.00
r.linder Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Yeah as others have said, there are other alternatives to dedicated macro keys on the keyboard, a lot of mice out there have that option and you can do it with a standard keyboard as well

AZIO retro classic is also overpriced junk with low quality switches, keychron options are a lot cheaper while being better quality
Last edited by r.linder; Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:07pm
Bad Aim Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Shaggy:
I replaced my Logitech G510 with the SteelSeries Apex 7. I have really been liking it.

This is actually not bad.
Thank you
r.linder Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Cernunnos:
Originally posted by Shaggy:
I replaced my Logitech G510 with the SteelSeries Apex 7. I have really been liking it.

This is actually not bad.
Thank you
Apex Pro is more expensive but it's up your alley with what the G510S offered, and it has optical switches that are just slightly better than standard red/linear switches like MX Red. I used that board for quite awhile and can easily recommend it to those who want to pay that much
ZAP Oct 8, 2023 @ 5:12pm 
That's the fourth click. Might wanna investigate that 😛
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