Cpu upgrade

[Ozren_94]

Which cpu is good for gaming only from i9 9900k i am considering ryzen 7 5800x3d or i5 3600k or i7 13700k and last maybe 7800x3d because i will stick with my ddr4 ram memory.I changed from air cooler dark rock pro 4 to aio before that my i9 9900k is working perfectly with dual channel now wont boot or even wont put display on screen pins on i9 9900k little band but its good now they didn't maybe because of that wont work or my motherboard is dying its always been on second and four channel and this is second time i changed in pc its only work pc on third and last chanel fourth.and now i have low fps because is going single channel not dual channel.

[Agent]

Yes if you have the money there's no point getting a 5800x3D over a 7800x3D if you aren't already on AM4.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well yea, IF you have the extra money to go for AM5 platform + DDR5, sure.
Not everyone does.

Only thing that makes AM4 "dead" is because it won't have any future CPUs coming to it, however if the person is tight on funds and needs a better PC now, the AM4 is still an option. And I mostly am only saying that because if you were to build around AM4 + 16 or 32 GB DDR4 + 5800X3D now... that should easily keep you running all games well enough for many years to come. Only upgrade you might need in 2-3 years would be a GPU, maybe depending on what you have now, or purchase now when doing the build.

[C1REX]

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

Well yea, IF you have the extra money to go for AM5 platform + DDR5, sure.
Not everyone does.

Only thing that makes AM4 "dead" is because it won't have any future CPUs coming to it, however if the person is tight on funds and needs a better PC now, the AM4 is still an option. And I mostly am only saying that because if you were to build around AM4 + 16 or 32 GB DDR4 + 5800X3D now... that should easily keep you running all games well enough for many years to come. Only upgrade you might need in 2-3 years would be a GPU, maybe depending on what you have now, or purchase now when doing the build.

I’ve just checked partpicker and brand new 5800x3D + 32GB DDR4 + mobo cost the same as 7600 + 32GB DDR5 + mobo.

Both offer very similar performance for the same price.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

7600 is rather terrible. If can, go with 7700X

[C1REX]

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

7600 is rather terrible. If can, go with 7700X

Rather terrible 7600 has the same average gaming performance as 5800x3D.
I wouldn’t buy a 6core CPU these days personally.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well maybe in some games; like less CPU intensive ones or older ones.
But no it really doesn't come close in modern games that could actually utilize the extra cache on the 5800X3D

Performance Per Value on AM5 is basically, either go with 7500, 7700X or 7800X3D is really the way to look at it if you compare benchmarks that incorporate the differences between these CPUs you'll see the 7600 is rather irrelevant.

[C1REX]

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

Well maybe in some games; like less CPU intensive ones or older ones.
But no it really doesn't come close in modern games that could actually utilize the extra cache on the 5800X3D

Performance Per Value on AM5 is basically, either go with 7500, 7700X or 7800X3D is really the way to look at it if you compare benchmarks that incorporate the differences between these CPUs you'll see the 7600 is rather irrelevant.

https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg?si=ZziMK497Q-yCUR4W

I don’t know. I’ve checked few gaming benchmarks and 7600 is super close to 5800x3D.

[Illusion of Progress]

C1REX-PL původně napsal:

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

Well maybe in some games; like less CPU intensive ones or older ones.
But no it really doesn't come close in modern games that could actually utilize the extra cache on the 5800X3D

Performance Per Value on AM5 is basically, either go with 7500, 7700X or 7800X3D is really the way to look at it if you compare benchmarks that incorporate the differences between these CPUs you'll see the 7600 is rather irrelevant.

https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg?si=ZziMK497Q-yCUR4W

I don’t know. I’ve checked few gaming benchmarks and 7600 is super close to 5800x3D.

That's because it can be, as AM5 in general "averages out" close to the 5800X3D in gaming performance (so sometimes it'll outperform the 5800X3D and sometimes it goes the other way, but they average close enough), but Bad Motha is correct. The price/performance of the 7500F (typically) makes both the 7600 and 7600X rather pointless. That's because the 7500F has almost all of the performance of the latter two, but at a cheaper price.

Same thing between the 5600 and 5600X (and 5700X and 5800X). The 5600 had like 99% of the performance of the 5600X, but was $30 cheaper. So you would want to take the "same thing" for $30 less in that case.

[C1REX]

Illusion of Progress původně napsal:

That's because the 7500F has almost all of the performance of the latter two, but at a cheaper price.

7500F + mobo can cost as low as a 5800x3D alone. Nice.

[pasa]

"7500F (typically) makes both the 7600 and 7600X rather pointless. "

Depends on what actual price you get them. Looking at best price here the diff to 7600 barely covers a cooler the latter includes. And the avg price is almost the same. (not unusual, how many times I saw the intel F cpus offered for more than the same non-F model... guess some people just follow advice blindly)

against 7600x with fair cooling the speed diff is not trivial. And you get an igpu. I would hardly call pointless untill the gap grows significantly. (What may happen if intel reacts by undercutting 13400 and some competition emerges in the entry market, but I'm skeptic about that.

[Illusion of Progress]

C1REX-PL původně napsal:

Illusion of Progress původně napsal:

That's because the 7500F has almost all of the performance of the latter two, but at a cheaper price.

7500F + mobo can cost as low as a 5800x3D alone. Nice.

You... you do realize I was only talking about the 7500F, 7600, and 7600X there, yes?

Apparently not, but yes, nice.

[Illusion of Progress]

pasa původně napsal:

"7500F (typically) makes both the 7600 and 7600X rather pointless. "

Depends on what actual price you get them.

Absolutely correct, yes. It always comes down to price.

My statement there is based on the typical pricing separation they seem to tend to have, but pricing always varies.

So yes, as always, do research on pricing and performance, and then try and use best judgment.