Cooler vs Fan --- a question

[Myth[Alex]]

What's the difference between those two? Aren't they the same (the same purpose --- cooling the system)? I don't get it.

(I don't have a good hardware knowledge, so you'll have to explain me better.)

Thank you in advance.

[Old Skool Raver]

A cooler usually refers to a complete cooling unit, so a heatsink & fan combo or an AIO closed loop water cooler.

A fan is, well, a fan :P

[Myth[Alex]]

Master Disaster の投稿を引用：

A cooler usually refers to a complete cooling unit, so a heatsink & fan combo or an AIO closed loop water cooler.

A fan is, well, a fan :P

Ah, I see.

And if I would get a good cooler, will I need to purchase fan(s) too? or not?

[Air]

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Master Disaster の投稿を引用：

A cooler usually refers to a complete cooling unit, so a heatsink & fan combo or an AIO closed loop water cooler.

A fan is, well, a fan :P

Ah, I see.

And if I would get a good cooler, will I need to purchase fan(s) too? or not?

Fans almost always come with coolers when you buy them.

[Myth[Alex]]

My future gaming system:

> i7-4790K, 4GHz (no overclock)
> 8 GB of RAM, DDR3 at 1600 MHz, CL8
> GTX 780

Will I need more than a cooler (this one:http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/) for it? Or maybe fan(s)?

[Old Skool Raver]

That cooler comes with a fan and will be fine with your CPU. Its a very decent cooler.

[Myth[Alex]]

Master Disaster の投稿を引用：

That cooler comes with a fan and will be fine with your CPU. Its a very decent cooler.

So no additional fan(s) for the system? That cooler is all my system needs?

[Pomelo]

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That cooler comes with a fan and will be fine with your CPU. Its a very decent cooler.

So no additional fan(s) for the system? That cooler is all my system needs?

Well you still "need" case fans, but usually a decent case will come with at least 2 case fans already.

Why you need case fans too? Airflow. Air cooling basically only works properly if you have airflow, i.e. air circulating in, through and out of your case while transporting the heat off your components.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

CPU cooler (HS+FAN) that is just to cool the CPU. It does help blow air over the nearby motherboard areas (like VRMs and RAM) but just the CPU cooler alone does not give cool air to the entire system.

Think of a house with no AC built in.
If you sit in a room with a fan blowing on you, is it cool, technically YES. But if u go into another room what do you have? Dead zones of hot air that is not moving or being cooled.

So the main CPU cooler is for the CPU; the Case/Chassis Fan helps to fully circulate air properly throughout your case, providing cool air over your Drives, GPU, Motherboard, etc.

Without airflow, you will end up with hot dead zone areas in the case and that isn't good.

[Myth[Alex]]

Thank you, guys.

And which fans (& how many) would you recommend for my future system (I wrote it above)?

[Don't feed the ducks™]

I am using this case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akHcJ2OYAR0

It comes with 5 fans installed with room for 2 more. It's a great case and cheap too. No reason to get those Cooler Master ones unless you are using a lot of tech in your case. This will suit your needs perfectly.

As for CPU cooler, I'm using this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mxOTLMG3b8

Some people call it cheap and low end but my Hyper 212-EVO died on me and I bought this as I'm short on cash atm. It keeps the CPU at 19-20* idle and when playing a heavily modded Skyrim, 35 degrees-ish. Good cooler. It provides support for Intel sockets and also thermal paste.

Don't bother buying the expensive Arctic silver stuff that everyone jerks off to. You will only notice a 1-2 degree difference if that. Not worth the money in other words.

Hope this helps :D

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If u are unfamilar with the various FANs; obviously the size that fits on your case...
as far as fan specs; well if u want to run well and still be quiet enough, look for ones that are BELOW 28db

If u really want good stuff, get a fan controller and hook all chassis fans to that, so u have control over noise & speed.

[Greenie]

The two differances between cooling with air and liquid are, Many people like to overclock and push the CPU and GPU to it's max. Water cooling helps keep the temps under control by always transerfing the liquid Via a pump and a radiator. This keeps the liquid at a steady Temp usually no mattter how hot the CPU or GPU gets. The plus of liquid cooling are constant steady temps with little to NO noise of fans. Air cooling is usually done if you don't plan on overclocking to the extreme. A general rule to Air cooling is have the same air flow out as in. Meaning if you have two fans at the front of the case sucking room air in then you should have two blowing out. In my Case I have two in the front one in the back and a blow hole at the top. Air is consistantly circulating in the case,keeping your GPU and CPU supplied with fresh room air constantly. The downfall of air cooling is obviously the noise, Some cases come with 6 120mm fans when these fans turn too the max they can get quit noisy however, fans are much cheaper than a good liquid cooled set up. The choice is yours and what application you want to apply depends on how you use your system. I know for a fact this topic has been brought up at least 5 times in the past.... the search button is your friend !

[Don't feed the ducks™]

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The two differances between cooling with air and liquid are, Many people like to overclock and push the CPU and GPU to it's max. Water cooling helps keep the temps under control by always transerfing the liquid Via a pump and a radiator. This keeps the liquid at a steady Temp usually no mattter how hot the CPU or GPU gets. The plus of liquid cooling are constant steady temps with little to NO noise of fans. Air cooling is usually done if you don't plan on overclocking to the extreme. A general rule to Air cooling is have the same air flow out as in. Meaning if you have two fans at the front of the case sucking room air in then you should have two blowing out. In my Case I have two in the front one in the back and a blow hole at the top. Air is consistantly circulating in the case,keeping your GPU and CPU supplied with fresh room air constantly. The downfall of air cooling is obviously the noise, Some cases come with 6 120mm fans when these fans turn too the max they can get quit noisy however, fans are much cheaper than a good liquid cooled set up. The choice is yours and what application you want to apply depends on how you use your system. I know for a fact this topic has been brought up at least 5 times in the past.... the search button is your friend !

It's been proven that there's little to no difference in temps with air or water cooling. Just not worth the hassle IMO. Too many thing can go wrong compared to an air unit.

I got my current cooler for £12. Bargain. It keeps my temps at 20*C at idle and when playing a game, they will go to the 30's sometimes 35's but that's really good considering I bought this for £13. Same with thermal paste. It's a marketing tactic.

If you buy Arctic silver paste which is really expensive and compare it to the one Zalman provides with their cooler, I doubt you would see a significant difference. 1 or 2 degrees if that. Just not worth the money.

[Old Skool Raver]

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Greenmarine の投稿を引用：

The two differances between cooling with air and liquid are, Many people like to overclock and push the CPU and GPU to it's max. Water cooling helps keep the temps under control by always transerfing the liquid Via a pump and a radiator. This keeps the liquid at a steady Temp usually no mattter how hot the CPU or GPU gets. The plus of liquid cooling are constant steady temps with little to NO noise of fans. Air cooling is usually done if you don't plan on overclocking to the extreme. A general rule to Air cooling is have the same air flow out as in. Meaning if you have two fans at the front of the case sucking room air in then you should have two blowing out. In my Case I have two in the front one in the back and a blow hole at the top. Air is consistantly circulating in the case,keeping your GPU and CPU supplied with fresh room air constantly. The downfall of air cooling is obviously the noise, Some cases come with 6 120mm fans when these fans turn too the max they can get quit noisy however, fans are much cheaper than a good liquid cooled set up. The choice is yours and what application you want to apply depends on how you use your system. I know for a fact this topic has been brought up at least 5 times in the past.... the search button is your friend !

It's been proven that there's little to no difference in temps with air or water cooling. Just not worth the hassle IMO. Too many thing can go wrong compared to an air unit.

I got my current cooler for £12. Bargain. It keeps my temps at 20*C at idle and when playing a game, they will go to the 30's sometimes 35's but that's really good considering I bought this for £13. Same with thermal paste. It's a marketing tactic.

If you buy Arctic silver paste which is really expensive and compare it to the one Zalman provides with their cooler, I doubt you would see a significant difference. 1 or 2 degrees if that. Just not worth the money.

Please link to this supposed proof that water is no more effective than air.

Your talking out of your a hole and you know it. A semi decent water loop will destroy any high end cooler on the market.

[Don't feed the ducks™]

Master Disaster の投稿を引用：

Don't feed the ducks™ の投稿を引用：

It's been proven that there's little to no difference in temps with air or water cooling. Just not worth the hassle IMO. Too many thing can go wrong compared to an air unit.

I got my current cooler for £12. Bargain. It keeps my temps at 20*C at idle and when playing a game, they will go to the 30's sometimes 35's but that's really good considering I bought this for £13. Same with thermal paste. It's a marketing tactic.

If you buy Arctic silver paste which is really expensive and compare it to the one Zalman provides with their cooler, I doubt you would see a significant difference. 1 or 2 degrees if that. Just not worth the money.

Please link to this supposed proof that water is no more effective than air.

Your talking out of your a hole and you know it. A semi decent water loop will destroy any high end cooler on the market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmZy4MtoXLU