Kweeb May 25, 2023 @ 3:35pm
(correction) would a Asus prime b460m-a motherboard support
A RTX 4060 TI.
My CPU is a i7 10700F
I have a 500 w power supply.
Last edited by Kweeb; May 25, 2023 @ 4:05pm
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Yes, you just won't run at pcie 4.0 standard. Instead you'll run at 3.0 standard.
Kweeb May 25, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
Would it be worth the upgrade from a GTX 1660 super?
Kweeb May 25, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by W O K E I S M:
Yes, you just won't run at pcie 4.0 standard. Instead you'll run at 3.0 standard.
My mistake. It is a
Prime b460 m-a
Bad 💀 Motha May 25, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
Just get a RTX 3060 or AMD 6700 XT.
3060 just dropped to $300

But yes you do not need PCIE 4.0 to properly use all these new GPUs. They all work fine on PCIE 3.0
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; May 25, 2023 @ 4:17pm
_I_ May 25, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-b460m-a/techspec/

pci-e 4.0 is only needed for 4.0 devices, or when lanes need to be shared among other devices
Kweeb May 25, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Just get a RTX 3060 or AMD 6700 XT.
3060 just dropped to $300

But yes you do not need PCIE 4.0 to properly use all these new GPUs. They all work fine on PCIE 3.0
How much different in performance would I expect though?
plat May 25, 2023 @ 4:27pm 
Acc. to some online sources, psu/s of 600-750 watts are being mentioned and recommended but I have not yet seen anyone specifically saying "no" to a 500 watt power supply--not yet anyway I would think about it a little more, though, and maybe do some online research on your own.

For reference, I run rtx 4070 on a lower end PCI-e v.3 board and it's perfectly fine. I have run multiple benchmarks incl. Time Spy and Unigine Superposition several times each and, tested RAM for hours, etc etc and no issues so far.

Edit: just saw that NVIDIA itself recommends a 550 watt power supply for both 4060 and Ti.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/40-series/rtx-4060-4060ti/

Scroll down until you see the tab "Specs" then "View full specs" and then continue scrolling a bit--the recommended power supply is near the bottom.
Last edited by plat; May 25, 2023 @ 4:48pm
Bad 💀 Motha May 25, 2023 @ 4:29pm 
Well 1660 is barely good enough for 1080p gaming. 3060, 3060 Ti and 4060 Ti would be quite a good jump above any gtx 1660.
Originally posted by Kweebsters:
Would it be worth the upgrade from a GTX 1660 super?
Not to me it wouldn't be. To me the 4060ti is trash. The only thing going for it is efficiency and ray tracing and dlss garbage. Those things aren't worth $400-$500 though. Terrible value.

4060 ti memory bandwidth = 288
1660 super memory bandwidth = 336

You actually get less graphic card for your money and Nvidia involves ai trickery and fake frames and other ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and uses these in benchmark to showcase performance even when their GPU sucks it hard. Don't trust them.

Nvidia 4000 series 👎 except the 4090. The rtx 4090 is the only one that isn't neutered.
The 1660 isn't the same. It only has 192gb/s memory bandwidth. The 1070 has 256 still slower bandwidth. The 3060 is barely more than the 1660 super coming in at 360.


Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
The bandwidth doesn't speak at all about raw performance. The 1660 always was a joke.
The joke actually started when you logged in and made this comment. Your references aren't making sense.
MancSoulja May 25, 2023 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by W O K E I S M:
The 1660 isn't the same. It only has 192gb/s memory bandwidth. The 1070 has 256 still slower bandwidth. The 3060 is barely more than the 1660 super coming in at 360.


Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
The bandwidth doesn't speak at all about raw performance. The 1660 always was a joke.
The joke actually started when you logged in and made this comment. Your references aren't making sense.

The 4070 Ti has half the memory bandwidth of a 3080 and still smashes it into oblivion.

Unless you're playing at 4K+ you wont see any discernible memory bottleneck from any of the cards you listed.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 May 25, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
To answer OP question yes.

Originally posted by Kweebsters:
Would it be worth the upgrade from a GTX 1660 super?
Ehhh depends what your goal, do you want it for 1080p, 1440p, 4k? Are you after yo max out newest games settings?

IMHO I'm not impressed with Nvidia pricing for 40 series's, AMD is starting to lower pricing on their GPUs, and Intel, if their next gen cards goes as they claimed, then this will hurt Nvidia marketing plan for price jacking, and may lower their prices, but that depends what happens in the future. I'm hoping Intel pull through, and hurt Nvidia, and same with AMD as these piece need to be knock down quite a bit to be responsible IMO.

To point out, 4060 ti isn't much better than 3060 ti, both being same, or 3060 ti cheaper, and for 2nd hand it can be even cheaper basically price to performance making 4060 ti look bad, only thing that can help is dlss that basically it, but raw to raw yeah it bad... I mean this is kind of point where Nvidia need to step back on their aggressive pricing they been doing. Again just IMO.

If you're dead set don't want to wait for next series's, just wait until 4060 ti16GB model release for $100 more this way you have double the VRAM, as certain modem games are super memory hogs even at 1080p.
Kweeb May 25, 2023 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
To answer OP question yes.

Originally posted by Kweebsters:
Would it be worth the upgrade from a GTX 1660 super?
Ehhh depends what your goal, do you want it for 1080p, 1440p, 4k? Are you after yo max out newest games settings?

IMHO I'm not impressed with Nvidia pricing for 40 series's, AMD is starting to lower pricing on their GPUs, and Intel, if their next gen cards goes as they claimed, then this will hurt Nvidia marketing plan for price jacking, and may lower their prices, but that depends what happens in the future. I'm hoping Intel pull through, and hurt Nvidia, and same with AMD as these piece need to be knock down quite a bit to be responsible IMO.

To point out, 4060 ti isn't much better than 3060 ti, both being same, or 3060 ti cheaper, and for 2nd hand it can be even cheaper basically price to performance making 4060 ti look bad, only thing that can help is dlss that basically it, but raw to raw yeah it bad... I mean this is kind of point where Nvidia need to step back on their aggressive pricing they been doing. Again just IMO.

If you're dead set don't want to wait for next series's, just wait until 4060 ti16GB model release for $100 more this way you have double the VRAM, as certain modem games are super memory hogs even at 1080p.
1080p maxxed. Ill probably just wait for the 16gb 4060ti
Bad 💀 Motha May 25, 2023 @ 10:01pm 
This has been a debate for many years. If you can't see that the memory bus: 192 vs 256 vs 384 bit doesn't matter as much as you think. Through design of these GPUs, you don't need 256bit or higher on an 8-10GB GPU really. 192bit is just fine.

Overall it does not speak for general performance overall.

The raw performance is what you need to focus more on.
TeraFlops; Texture Fill Rate; Memory Bandwidth



From slowest to fastest, it's like this:

GeForce GTX 780
Arc A380
Radeon RX 6400
GeForce GTX 1650
Radeon RX 470
Radeon R9 290
Radeon RX 570
Radeon R9 390
Radeon R9 290X
GeForce GTX 970
GeForce GTX 780 Ti
Radeon RX 480
GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB
Radeon RX 580
Radeon RX 5500 XT
Radeon RX 6500 XT
GeForce GTX 980
GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER
GeForce GTX 1660
GeForce GTX 980 Ti
GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
GeForce GTX 1070
GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB
GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
Radeon RX 5600 XT
GeForce RTX 2060
GeForce GTX 1080
Radeon RX 5700
Radeon RX 6600
GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
GeForce RTX 2070
GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Arc A750
GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
Arc A770
Radeon RX 6600 XT
Radeon RX 6650 XT
GeForce RTX 2080
Radeon RX 7600
GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X
Radeon RX 6700 XT
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
Radeon RX 6750 XT
GeForce RTX 3070
GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
Radeon RX 6800
Radeon RX 6800 XT
GeForce RTX 3080
GeForce RTX 4070
Radeon RX 6900 XT
GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
Radeon RX 6950 XT
GeForce RTX 3090
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
Radeon RX 7900 XT
GeForce RTX 4080
Radeon RX 7900 XTX
GeForce RTX 4090
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 May 25, 2023 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by Kweebsters:
1080p maxxed. Ill probably just wait for the 16gb 4060ti
If you save more, 4070 ti will be good jump, and way better than 4060 ti, but that depends if want to burn that cash for it, other wise 4060 ti 16GB be good for 1080p but max settings in newest titles, most likely gonna be high instead of max I'm assuming, unless your target is 60fps, if any higher than yea it be high settings most likely.
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