i7 13700K at 100°C with AIO

[Handy Bag]

Hi everyone,
Asking for help even if I already know the answer. I've built a pc in the Cooler Master nr200p max case (with integrated AIO and power supply). I've built plenty of PC, but it's my 1st in mini-ITX format, and the 1st with AIO cooler, and maybe I'm doing something wrong.

When I boot the PC, it's all working well, but the CPU's temp goes through the roof in 5 minutes, up to 100°C, so I suspected an AIO issue. When I go to BIOS, the PUMP_FAN (the header where the pump is connected) shows 0 RPM. It's the same when I plug the pump on CPU_FAN or SYS_FAN. Of course I hear no sound coming from the pump while the PC is running. So I guess the pump is not working ? Maybe I've forgot to activate something or I don't know what.

Things I've already check/done :
- Change thermal paste twice
- Check if screws where to tightly screwed
- Check if I removed the plastic layer on the copper plate of the AIO
- Tested every fan pin on the mobo with another cooler

If you have any advice or idea on what is preventing the pump to run, I'll be happy to hear from you

Thank you

[MancSoulja]

AIO pumps get their power from SATA or USB, the cable you connect to the CPU fan header is only a tachometer and is used to report fan speeds.

What make is your AIO? Check the manufacturers software as it should report the pump RPM.

[_I_]

make sure the pump is at 100% all of the time
use a sata or molex power connector and adapter for it to ensure it is

put the aio fans on the cpu fan header

[mtono]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Handy Bag:

Hi everyone,
Asking for help even if I already know the answer. I've built a pc in the Cooler Master nr200p max case (with integrated AIO and power supply). I've built plenty of PC, but it's my 1st in mini-ITX format, and the 1st with AIO cooler, and maybe I'm doing something wrong.

When I boot the PC, it's all working well, but the CPU's temp goes through the roof in 5 minutes, up to 100°C, so I suspected an AIO issue. When I go to BIOS, the PUMP_FAN (the header where the pump is connected) shows 0 RPM. It's the same when I plug the pump on CPU_FAN or SYS_FAN. Of course I hear no sound coming from the pump while the PC is running. So I guess the pump is not working ? Maybe I've forgot to activate something or I don't know what.

Things I've already check/done :
- Change thermal paste twice
- Check if screws where to tightly screwed
- Check if I removed the plastic layer on the copper plate of the AIO
- Tested every fan pin on the mobo with another cooler

If you have any advice or idea on what is preventing the pump to run, I'll be happy to hear from you

Thank you

if it doesnt start a fire, its ok. btw: is the liquuid fluid water or sth else? 100°C make water boil. what do you say?

[Omega]

The PUMP header is just a normal fan header which always runs at 100%, it may or may not be used.

If the AIO's only power source is a fan header make sure it set to an appropriate speed. If you set it too low the pump may not function.

For some AIOs this means setting it to 100% always, for others which run the pump and fans in series you will have to find the appropriate settings youself, for example 50%-80% base on CPU temp.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

100*C is not enough to boil the liquid unless you live in the mountains or something. And 100*C is for pure water. The liquid in the rad is a mixture of distilled water and purification chemicals. Because even though the system is sealed, it would need to be made up of such a liquid to avoid bacterial growth and such inside. This raises the boiling point to around 105-110

Overall it sounds to me like the OP did not hookup the SATA power. Or the pump is simply DOA

I highly doubt your AIO is powered by a single fan header as the Pump in an average AIO uses more then 1.5 amps which is why they most often use SATA power connector as that should power not just the pump but also the connected radiator fans.

Please double check what came with your AIO and ensure everything is hooked up properly. If the cpu continues to go above 95*C shut the system off immediately and allow a good 10 minutes or so cool down time. And if continues after double check everything with the AIO and if that happens to all be correct then I'd have to assume the pump is dead.

[Fernando Alonso]

the first mistake you did was to not buy a big tower case and expect it to not be running hot

[Fernando Alonso]

Początkowo opublikowane przez _I_:

make sure the pump is at 100% all of the time
use a sata or molex power connector and adapter for it to ensure it is

put the aio fans on the cpu fan header

this will literally break the pump
you never run the pump at 100%

[Handy Bag]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MancSoulja:

AIO pumps get their power from SATA or USB, the cable you connect to the CPU fan header is only a tachometer and is used to report fan speeds.

What make is your AIO? Check the manufacturers software as it should report the pump RPM.

There is no SATA or USB port on the pump, only a 3 pin connector.

Początkowo opublikowane przez _I_:

make sure the pump is at 100% all of the time
use a sata or molex power connector and adapter for it to ensure it is

put the aio fans on the cpu fan header

I cannot put the pump on 100% because the system doesn't show it. When I put all the fans on max settings in bios, every fan in the case go 100%, put the pump still doesn't work.

Początkowo opublikowane przez owl rly?:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Handy Bag:

Hi everyone,
Asking for help even if I already know the answer. I've built a pc in the Cooler Master nr200p max case (with integrated AIO and power supply). I've built plenty of PC, but it's my 1st in mini-ITX format, and the 1st with AIO cooler, and maybe I'm doing something wrong.

When I boot the PC, it's all working well, but the CPU's temp goes through the roof in 5 minutes, up to 100°C, so I suspected an AIO issue. When I go to BIOS, the PUMP_FAN (the header where the pump is connected) shows 0 RPM. It's the same when I plug the pump on CPU_FAN or SYS_FAN. Of course I hear no sound coming from the pump while the PC is running. So I guess the pump is not working ? Maybe I've forgot to activate something or I don't know what.

Things I've already check/done :
- Change thermal paste twice
- Check if screws where to tightly screwed
- Check if I removed the plastic layer on the copper plate of the AIO
- Tested every fan pin on the mobo with another cooler

If you have any advice or idea on what is preventing the pump to run, I'll be happy to hear from you

Thank you

if it doesnt start a fire, its ok. btw: is the liquuid fluid water or sth else? 100°C make water boil. what do you say?

Well its 99°C on idle, so no it's not ok. 100°C is the CPU temp, so of course the water isn't at 100°C.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad 💀 Motha:

100*C is not enough to boil the liquid unless you live in the mountains or something. And 100*C is for pure water. The liquid in the rad is a mixture of distilled water and purification chemicals. Because even though the system is sealed, it would need to be made up of such a liquid to avoid bacterial growth and such inside. This raises the boiling point to around 105-110

Overall it sounds to me like the OP did not hookup the SATA power. Or the pump is simply DOA

I highly doubt your AIO is powered by a single fan header as the Pump in an average AIO uses more then 1.5 amps which is why they most often use SATA power connector as that should power not just the pump but also the connected radiator fans.

Please double check what came with your AIO and ensure everything is hooked up properly. If the cpu continues to go above 95*C shut the system off immediately and allow a good 10 minutes or so cool down time. And if continues after double check everything with the AIO and if that happens to all be correct then I'd have to assume the pump is dead.

As I said, there is only a 3 pin connector. I've assemble and disassemble the whole thing 2 times to be sure that I've done everything right.
I've watched 3-4 videos about ppl building in this particular case. And in every video, they only plug a 3 pin connector from the pump, and a 4 pin adapter for the 2 fans on the radiator. These 2 fans work perfectly on every header on the mobo (PUMP, CPU and SYS).
Also, when the PC is running, the CPU is hot, and both AIO tubes are hot around the CPU, but the closer you get to the radiator, the coldest they are.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I remember I helped someone with a Corsair iCue AIO and that thing had the directions BACKWARDS! No joke, you can't make this ♥♥♥♥ up!

[Rod]

Can you get a cheap 3 pin to sata cable? Like phobya sata 4 pin to 2 x 3 pin? I have one and thats an easy fix plug the pump into that and power it off the psu.

It could be a dead pump too, that method will solve it or diagnose it.

[Handy Bag]

So, here's a little update :
I've set the AIO on a 100% working motherboard : still doesn't work.
I've tried with a 3 pin to molex and a 3 pin to SATA : still doesn't work.
I've tried a Corsair AIO on my new motherboard : works perfectly fine.

My only guess now is that the pump is DOA. I've sent a ticket to Cooler Master, I'm waiting for their answer.

Thank you everyone for your responses, I'll update the topic when I get news from the manufacturer.

[Slav Mcgopnik]

If you do decide to get a new AIO, I will strongly recommend the Arctic Liquid Freezer II.

Affordable (no bells and whistles) and probably the single best AIO on the market right now.

[_I_]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Handy Bag:

Początkowo opublikowane przez _I_:

make sure the pump is at 100% all of the time
use a sata or molex power connector and adapter for it to ensure it is

put the aio fans on the cpu fan header

I cannot put the pump on 100% because the system doesn't show it. When I put all the fans on max settings in bios, every fan in the case go 100%, put the pump still doesn't work.

most fan headers do not put enough power to run a pump, maybe .5a-1a
boards with cpu_pump header can put more than 1a to the pump
in bios set it to dc control 100%, not pwm

but its best to keep it at full speed, the pump is designed to run at 100%
easier on it to keep liquid flowing than start/stop it as temp changes
aio comes with a molex/sata adapter for the pump power, its fine to use that to ensure its at 100%

and let the fans cool the liquid in rad as needed

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Link us to what AIO you are using please

[Rod]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Slav Mcgopnik:

If you do decide to get a new AIO, I will strongly recommend the Arctic Liquid Freezer II.

Affordable (no bells and whistles) and probably the single best AIO on the market right now.

I would of bought the 280mma few days ago instead of H115i rgb elite but it can be a bit too thick of a rad. The Corsair range tend to be smaller but Freezer ii cools better.


OP has dead pump too.