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all in all.. meh
The 8 lanes will be the least of the worries when it comes to the RTX 4060 Ti. The performance issues it has comes down to everything else before that.
The chip being a quarter of the chip that the flagship is will innately limit performance so bad, and it's why its predecessor is equal or even slightly above it in cases. The fact it does this "good" if you look at it as an x50 just speaks to how much of an improvement Ada actually is. But nVidia has no incentive to make it an x50 and sell it at the price of one when there's no competition encouraging them to do so. We've seen this before... something about what Intel was doing in the mid 2010s... (so yes, partly blame AMD's lack of competition, because companies will dip into greed when they can if competition doesn't force them to do otherwise.)
The 128-bit bus severely reduces memory bandwidth and matters a lot too.
The 8 GB frame buffer can limit performance today solely by running out, and is a huge concern going forward.
But the bandwidth between the CPU and GPU? No, it's not much of an issue here. Should it have 16 lanes? I think it should, yes, in part due to because of the product tier/price and simply because I believe everything above the traditional entry-level should have the full 16 lanes (but nVidia is clearly positing the x60 as entry level now), but I still believe it's also not going to matter much anyway.
People VASTLY overestimate the bandwidth needs between the CPU and GPU, and the data every time this is tested supports this. Results are often margin of error at best, especially below the absolute high end. Alternatively, you can use Afterburner to check how much of the link state is actually used by most games if you're curious. You might find it is surprisingly low.
DerBauer covered this issue this morning in his 4060ti video. He reduced bandwidth to pcie4 x4 and the performance loss was between 5-10%. (timestamp 7:15) His conclusion is that the x8 slot bandwidth isn't really an issue.
https://youtu.be/SIugY8lDJhY?t=435
A contrarian view?
AMD will come to the rescue for nvidia by pricing their own upcoming offering at just slightly below nvidia's. Though I hope not.
Yes, his conclusion was that the rtx 2080 performs roughly the same as the 4060Ti but uses twice as much power. The bandwidth reportedly was "not a factor" but it's impossible to tell if this will be a "future-proof" card four years from now.
Hmmm.
so according to that guy the 4060Ti which is basically a more efficient 3060Ti is a steal because of inflation?
By that logic then Nvidia should've just made a more efficient 2060 Super and called it 3060Ti or a more efficient gtx 960 and called it 1060.
It sounds more like sponsored content than a review
much like a Tom's Hardware article from back when Turing was released
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html
Not exclusive to the RTX 4060 Ti, but just another broader thought...
On the thought of refreshes, what is the point of the "Ti" anymore? When GPU generations slowed down and changed to last two years instead of one, the Ti model largely came back as the refreshes. Now they just... release them initially/first? And then as a result take longer to work their way down the product stack? I find that approach lame too.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2979647016
What are you saying? you'd rather get a 3060 ti than a 4060 ti? Can't you just pretend Gamers Nexus made the video and just support it?
And why do you keep suggesting a situation where someone with a 3060 ti would go to a 4060 ti? Is that really what you'd want to do? do you have a 3060 ti and were waiting for a 4060 ti with 250% performance increase and 16 GB vram for $399?
Have you ever thought people who are still far behind gpu wise can still appreciate this product?
If you think comparing to the previous generation is wrong and incorrect then you should contact Hardware Unboxed, Gamers Nexus and most of the other reviewers and tell them to do a better job instead of blindly criticizing your favorite brand.
exaggerating much?
even the 4090 is "only" 60% faster than its predecessor
while the 3060Ti is less than 40% faster than the 2060S but certainly better than that 5-10% improvement the 4060Ti has over the previous gen but hey I am sure someone who is still on gtx 660Ti would find it super amazing. Just like he or she would be super impressed by a GTX 1660Ti
Yeah, nah. I do my own thinking. I don't marathon youtube channels looking for my opinion, so I can't help you there. lmao, you thought I was serious about the 250% increase?
Good job reading the rest of my post.
well done bro
Gamers Nexus is giving away free t-shirts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Am I joking? You're not sure. Better hurry up and check while supplies last!
But that's also the problem I see. We should already be at a point where any GPU at like 400$ and up should be able to easily do Ultra 1440p. This buying a 500$ or 800$ gpu just to do 100-120 fps at 1080p is ridiculous and that's without Ray Tracing or DLSS being considered.