4K is useless if you have to play on low settings

[Dawido]

Like, what is the point of 2160p resolution if you have to have low textures,shadows and everything to have stable 60+ fps?
Honestly, 1080p is already good itself, and maybe upgrade to 1440p would be good idea, but to be honest, is 4K or 8K really worth it, if for more pixels it gonna cut more FPS even on ultra high-end PCs? Honestly, i think 2K might be already enough, but i only have 1080p monitor, so i dont really know

[Rod]

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Fun fact ill bet OP hasnt tried what hes flaming. 4k low easily beats 1080p ultra. Why? Its called image quality and it beats graphics quality.


Enjoy shimmering and aliasing on 1080p ultra.

You are wrong.
How you can enjoy low textures just because they are on 4K?
By you logic Half Life 1 in 4K looks better than RDR2 in 1080p

You dont use low textures, You use them and the resolution and Ansiotropic Filtering at the maximum. Everything else is what goes on low to save performance.


3840x2160
16xAF
Ultra Textures
Everything else Low

[Dawido]

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You are wrong.
How you can enjoy low textures just because they are on 4K?
By you logic Half Life 1 in 4K looks better than RDR2 in 1080p

You dont use low textures, You use them and the resolution and Ansiotropic Filtering at the maximum. Everything else is what goes on low to save performance.


3840x2160
16xAF
Ultra Textures
Everything else Low

Ok, if you are so smart then do screenshoot in some modern video games where one of them will be low settings in 4K and another gonna be ultra settings 1080p , and we gonna see which look better.
And at 4K everything have to be on LOW, like you said

[Skkooomer Lord]

IMO a game will look better maxed out at 1080p vs 4K.

A game maxed out at 1440P still looks great even at 1080P or 4K..

Example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bdfRsBdzE

[Rod]

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You dont use low textures, You use them and the resolution and Ansiotropic Filtering at the maximum. Everything else is what goes on low to save performance.


3840x2160
16xAF
Ultra Textures
Everything else Low

Ok, if you are so smart then do screenshoot in some modern video games where one of them will be low settings in 4K and another gonna be ultra settings 1080p , and we gonna see which look better.
And at 4K everything have to be on LOW, like you said

No ty i already did this back when dead space launched on pc and used dsr to swap between 1080p and 4k on the fly. Image quality is superior to graphics. 1080p has sparkling and shimmering and aliasing 4k low will have a clean picturesque look to it.


1080p isnt natural, Look at the realworld or a movie and art and you see a picturesque image. Hence 4k low wins for me. You can also shift the bottleneck from the cpu as well to the GPU and which one is more powerful and upgradeable? I only see benefits and wins for 4k low.

[Obsessive Power]

I play many games on my 4K OLED. Thing is, it's only a 40" and 1440P still looks excellent on it. So much so I don't really play much in 4K mode. My RTX 3080 should last a bit.

[76561199442519373]

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My 3080 can run RDR2 on ultra (maxed everything) and get 60-70fps at 4k, there are a lot of gpus which are faster and my cpu isnt the fastest either. There is a market for 4k gaming

Really? 3080 and only 70 FPS? my RTX 3060 ti can also do that on 1080p, while getting 80-90 fps

Except Im running 4x the pixels? 4k vs 1080p is a huge difference in image quality lol. Whats your point

[76561199442519373]

Like physically and mathematically how can an image thats 1080p be better than 2160p. It PHYSICALLY has more detail and information at 4k. Youre just delusional just trying to make an argument out of nothing

[Rod]

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Like physically and mathematically how can an image thats 1080p be better than 2160p. It PHYSICALLY has more detail and information at 4k. Youre just delusional just trying to make an argument out of nothing

He doesnt even get 1080p anyways in modern games they force on DLSS so its sub 1080p what is it 720p? At least at 4k low dlss game can only force you to 1440p and no lower. 1080p is just nasty.

[potato]

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He doesnt even get 1080p anyways in modern games they force on DLSS .

no game forces dlss

[Rod]

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He doesnt even get 1080p anyways in modern games they force on DLSS .

no game forces dlss

When its a toss up between forced taa if you disabled dlss then many will consider that forced dlss as the taa option is horrendous. And many modern games like metro series do that. So on 1080p in Metro you either have 1080p with blurry TAA on or use DLSS and render sub 1080p! DLSS was built for 4k.

[wesnef]

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Like physically and mathematically how can an image thats 1080p be better than 2160p. It PHYSICALLY has more detail and information at 4k. Youre just delusional just trying to make an argument out of nothing

4K low (low textures, no shadows, no AF/AA, etc), vs 1080 ultra? In that case, I'd say 1080 "looks better". Who cares if you have 4x the pixels, if the pixels are showing garbage?

[emoticorpse]

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Like physically and mathematically how can an image thats 1080p be better than 2160p. It PHYSICALLY has more detail and information at 4k. Youre just delusional just trying to make an argument out of nothing

The details that make up the 1080p image are processed in such a way that they are more visually appealing than the final output image on the 4k screen?

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Ok, if you are so smart then do screenshoot in some modern video games where one of them will be low settings in 4K and another gonna be ultra settings 1080p , and we gonna see which look better.
And at 4K everything have to be on LOW, like you said

No ty i already did this back when dead space launched on pc and used dsr to swap between 1080p and 4k on the fly. Image quality is superior to graphics. 1080p has sparkling and shimmering and aliasing 4k low will have a clean picturesque look to it.


1080p isnt natural, Look at the realworld or a movie and art and you see a picturesque image. Hence 4k low wins for me. You can also shift the bottleneck from the cpu as well to the GPU and which one is more powerful and upgradeable? I only see benefits and wins for 4k low.

i smell a big fat bag of lies
dead space launched in 2008, 4k was not an option for tvs back then
and every 1080p tv had horrible input delays yet, not many with game mode

[Rod]

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No ty i already did this back when dead space launched on pc and used dsr to swap between 1080p and 4k on the fly. Image quality is superior to graphics. 1080p has sparkling and shimmering and aliasing 4k low will have a clean picturesque look to it.


1080p isnt natural, Look at the realworld or a movie and art and you see a picturesque image. Hence 4k low wins for me. You can also shift the bottleneck from the cpu as well to the GPU and which one is more powerful and upgradeable? I only see benefits and wins for 4k low.

i smell a big fat bag of lies
dead space launched in 2008, 4k was not an option for tvs back then
and every 1080p tv had horrible input delays yet, not many with game mode

Noted theres 2 missing from dead space. I used dsr and still do.

[76561199442519373]

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Like physically and mathematically how can an image thats 1080p be better than 2160p. It PHYSICALLY has more detail and information at 4k. Youre just delusional just trying to make an argument out of nothing

4K low (low textures, no shadows, no AF/AA, etc), vs 1080 ultra? In that case, I'd say 1080 "looks better". Who cares if you have 4x the pixels, if the pixels are showing garbage?

Yeah obviously. But in the case of having a rig that is capable of pushing 4k at high settings then it will look better. OP is complaining about how expensive things dont work if you cant afford to run them like obviously running 4k on a 3060 ti wont work.

he says '4K is useless if you have to play on low settings'... Then dont play at low settings and make sure you have a computer that can run the game