Windows 7 lack of support

[Kasual Keith]

This is some BS Steam. I specifically purchase older games that I know can run on my older Asus Gaming Laptop, which I can play while watching TV on the couch or traveling. It runs Windows 7, and I have no desire to update it to anything else. So now games I have bought for his purpose are now lost once you decide to no longer allow games to run?! I don’t want to have to sit in front of my gaming tower in order to play old school games. I could have easily purchased these games via GOG, but I went with your platform and now you plan on scuttling all that.

Just don’t update the Steam client, those updates have no baring on me enjoying the games I’ve purchased, but you not allowing Steam to run on Windows 7 will.

[Illusion of Progress]

How come all these threads about Windows 7 losing support from Steam are being made so quickly? Like everyone came out of the woodwork at once. What's going on? Is there some organized movement elsewhere for this or did I miss something?

I understand some people might not like the upcoming change. Just wondering why there's so many new threads being made about it.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

How come all these threads about Windows 7 losing support from Steam are being made so quickly? Like everyone came out of the woodwork at once. What's going on? Is there some organized movement elsewhere for this or did I miss something?

I understand some people might not like the upcoming change. Just wondering why there's so many new threads being made about it.

If the news just release, then it makes sense really no? I mean everyone is finding out about it at the same time and each person relaying it to another 10 people who are relaying even more people. Also, I would expect this kind of reaction. I can't really blame them. They put up a hard fight to keep with Windows 7 and mainly for games and they see this is as another brick wall as opposed to a speed bump.

Sure they could have moved on to 8/10/11 but it makes sense if they didn't want to do that up to now, they still won't want to do it even with Steam abandoning them.

[Illusion of Progress]

Well I'm not wondering why someone would be partial to Windows 7, or partial against Windows 8, 10, and/or 11. I pretty much share in those things myself, and even if I didn't, I could understand people having their preferences.

It was more that I was just wondering why so many new threads suddenly spawned up in the last half a day. Like I'm expecting maybe more might occur in the coming days I guess?

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Well I'm not wondering why someone would be partial to Windows 7, or partial against Windows 8, 10, and/or 11. I pretty much share in those things myself, and even if I didn't, I could understand people having their preferences.

It was more that I was just wondering why so many new threads suddenly spawned up in the last half a day. Like I'm expecting maybe more might occur in the coming days I guess?

I get that you weren't really questioning WHY anyone was feeling this way (even though I addressed that because I was too dumb to stop typing lol). But I suppose the answer was the very first piece of that post which is basically "Everyone just found out so that's why everyone is rage posting threads all at the same time". I think it's that simple or at least the simplest explanation.

[Illusion of Progress]

Oh. Yeah, I get that, I guess. Maybe I was sort of thinking out loud or something. I don't even know now.

I'm just kind of surprised by all of the sudden new threads about it. The first one was how I even found out about it.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Oh. Yeah, I get that, I guess. Maybe I was sort of thinking out loud or something. I don't even know now.

I'm just kind of surprised by all of the sudden new threads about it. The first one was how I even found out about it.

Yeah I know me too. The first thread on this was when I officially got the word. Even though I'm so out of the loop with Windows 7 that I assumed Steam had already dropped support for Windows 7 a while back but apparently I was wrong.

[PopinFRESH]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

How come all these threads about Windows 7 losing support from Steam are being made so quickly? Like everyone came out of the woodwork at once. What's going on? Is there some organized movement elsewhere for this or did I miss something?...

Originally posted by Valve Patch Notes:

• Added "End of Life" alert for Windows 7/8/8.1. Steam Client support for these operating systems will end on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10am. See here for additional details.

And

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

Basically they added a big warning at the top of the Steam Client for clients running on Windows 7/8/8.1 intended to notify people that are still on those platforms that support for the platform will end January 1st next year.

This is also not really something that is Valve's decision nor is it something that they could simply or easily "work around". This is a result of Google removing support for those platforms from the version of Chromium that Valve uses as the base of the embedded browser for the Steam Client.

[Illusion of Progress]

Okay I've been living under a rock for half a day (month... year... decade...) and didn't notice that. That explains it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well Chromium is no longer going to have support for those OS' so Steam Client would have to follow suit. We knew this was coming a long time ago. So IDK how it's news yo anyone.

If you want something you can still use on those Legacy OS' then use GOG

[Kasual Keith]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Well Chromium is no longer going to have support for those OS' so Steam Client would have to follow suit. We knew this was coming a long time ago. So IDK how it's news yo anyone.

If you want something you can still use on those Legacy OS' then use GOG

I'd be glad to move to GOG, and will definitely do so since I can an installable that doesn't require a Launcher, but is Steam going to give me back the funds that I sank to purchase those previous games? Probably not. Having the Steam client tied to a specific web browser has no benefit for myself as the consumer. What does it do besides pop up a window advertising games that I'm not going to purchase anyway?

It's fine that they don't 'update' the client anymore, but if you aren't going to let me launch previously purchased games... then I have an issue with your business decisions.

[Kasual Keith]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

How come all these threads about Windows 7 losing support from Steam are being made so quickly? Like everyone came out of the woodwork at once. What's going on? Is there some organized movement elsewhere for this or did I miss something?

I understand some people might not like the upcoming change. Just wondering why there's so many new threads being made about it.

Yes, the news just broke, no secret cabal, organized effort or anything like that. Just a tad bit of outrage especially when they quote something like only 2% of users use those OSes. Well only two percent of user actual like the requirement to use a Launcher, yet here we are tied to a Launcher that to the consumer provides very little benefit.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Kasual Keith:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Well Chromium is no longer going to have support for those OS' so Steam Client would have to follow suit. We knew this was coming a long time ago. So IDK how it's news yo anyone.

If you want something you can still use on those Legacy OS' then use GOG

I'd be glad to move to GOG, and will definitely do so since I can an installable that doesn't require a Launcher, but is Steam going to give me back the funds that I sank to purchase those previous games? Probably not. Having the Steam client tied to a specific web browser has no benefit for myself as the consumer. What does it do besides pop up a window advertising games that I'm not going to purchase anyway?

It's fine that they don't 'update' the client anymore, but if you aren't going to let me launch previously purchased games... then I have an issue with your business decisions.

They probably have themselves covered in the EULA for this situation. Probably says something like "we can delete your entire account/games and everything and charge you for it" knowing nobody reads it.

Like that episode of South Park about the Apple EULA.

[Kasual Keith]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Originally posted by Kasual Keith:

I'd be glad to move to GOG, and will definitely do so since I can an installable that doesn't require a Launcher, but is Steam going to give me back the funds that I sank to purchase those previous games? Probably not. Having the Steam client tied to a specific web browser has no benefit for myself as the consumer. What does it do besides pop up a window advertising games that I'm not going to purchase anyway?

It's fine that they don't 'update' the client anymore, but if you aren't going to let me launch previously purchased games... then I have an issue with your business decisions.

They probably have themselves covered in the EULA for this situation. Probably says something like "we can delete your entire account/games and everything and charge you for it" knowing nobody reads it.

Like that episode of South Park about the Apple EULA.

Probably, but the 'good will' lost might just hurt them more than they'd like... or not 😉 It's just our initial thoughts about Steam coming true, we don't own the games we purchase, we've traded convenience (downloading games and easy access to out-of-print games) for ownership of said games (sitting in a box on my shelf ready to be installed on a system whenever and wherever I choose, even if it is in 3.5" inch floppy format on an old Pentium or 486 desktop).

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Kasual Keith:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

They probably have themselves covered in the EULA for this situation. Probably says something like "we can delete your entire account/games and everything and charge you for it" knowing nobody reads it.

Like that episode of South Park about the Apple EULA.

Probably, but the 'good will' lost might just hurt them more than they'd like... or not 😉 It's just our initial thoughts about Steam coming true, we don't own the games we purchase, we've traded convenience (downloading games and easy access to out-of-print games) for ownership of said games (sitting in a box on my shelf ready to be installed on a system whenever and wherever I choose, even if it is in 3.5" inch floppy format on an old Pentium 486 desktop).

I know you're not here to hear people argue against you, but I do have to say I've taken it as common knowledge at this point that you really don't own anything you purchase digitally. Truth is also, they still offer your games to you in their same entirety as before if you just move operating systems?.

And truth is even your old games aren't guaranteed to work. Shoot, I have a couple original cd versions of half-life that give some kind of compatibility error in XP and 7 also if I remember correctly. I didn't really care because I had it on Steam and all that. But those games may/may not work either.

[minsect]

Originally posted by PopinFRESH:

Google removing support for those platforms from the version of Chromium that Valve uses as the base of the embedded browser for the Steam Client.

Steam uses Chromium v85, from 2020.09.
Windows 7 can use chromium up to v109, from 2023.01.

So the Chromium used in Steam is very outdated and somehow everyone is fine with that :)
Update to v109 would make it almost current and still compatible with win7.