Custom prebuild pc rtx 3080, 4070ti question

[Spinninwheel87]

Hi.

Im about to get a new computer, custom build on order, it comes with MSI 3080 10gb, but it`s possible to change to a 4070ti card for like 250 dollar more.

Would it be worth is in thoughts on futureproofing? How much "longer" would a 4070ti preform 60fps in 4k?

Today i have a 3060ti and it deliver re4 remake really soild 60fps in 2K resolution with most max settings, but with 4k fps it drop to 28-40fps, so i would think a 3080 card is what i looking for but same time affraid it would be old quickly?

[Tiberius]

Upgrading without skipping one generation is stupid, if you have to ask my opinion

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

10 GB VRAM of 3080 for 4K is not exactly greatest and will get increasingly worse in future.
4070 Ti is average about 20% faster then 3080 but in some games in 4K 3080 comes very close.
Honestly 4070 Ti is not that great 4K card, if you want to play in 4K it`s better to go with 4080.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ETNnQW33s

[Illusion of Progress]

You can't really "future proof", not for 4K especially. If you're after 4K, you're probably looking at buying high end and frequently.

Between those two, the RTX 4070 Ti is objectively a bit faster. Probably a quarter faster give or take? It also has 2 GB more VRAM, and even it's probably going to run into issues with VRAM at times. So the 10 GB on an RTX 3080 will already be a concern, especially if you do high settings (or add ray tracing).

The new generation is more of a supplement to the prior one rather than an improvement that replaces it (RTX 4090 aside). In an ideal world, it wouldn't be $250 more expensive than the prior generation's one tier higher SKU, because that represents stagnation rather than progress, but here we are. And looking just at performance, it falls about in line with it.

So if you have the $250 extra and you're looking to prolong it, yes, I'd go with it. 12 GB is already concerning for someone looking at higher settings/resolutions, so 10 GB would be more so.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tiberius:

Upgrading without skipping one generation is stupid, if you have to ask my opinion

OP's not necessarily asking that though. They're looking at a new PC with an RTX 3080 and it can be changed to an RTX 4070 Ti.

Now yes, they have an RTX 30 series card right now, but it's pointless since they're talking about cards twice as fast, and then some.

You don't hold off on an upgrade if it's substantially faster SOLELY because it's only one generation newer. The entire reason the "don't upgrade from one generation to the next" advice is a thing is because it mostly presumes you're buying it the same tier, in which case the uplift won't have become large enough in just one generation to make it worth the cost.

But that doesn't apply to OP.

[UserNotFound]

Even the 12GB VRAM on the RTX 4070 Ti might be saturated in certain games at 4K at certain setting, like Hogwarts Legacy, Forspoken and prolly newer and more GPU intensive games.

[Guydodge]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tiberius:

Upgrading without skipping one generation is stupid, if you have to ask my opinion

its not about generations its about gains

[Guydodge]

10GB was a joke when it released and still is on what was suppose to be a high end card its already a mid range card at best strickly due to its vram limitations.when a 10th gen card has more vram that was the clue not to take this card seriously

[antoniobennett72]

10GB VRAM means you aren't even present proofed for 4k and you don't probably have the juice at higher settings for some games either.

I also think you are looking at about your minimum uptick to be an actual upgrade at all in the same generation one full sku up from what you already have.

4070ti? Smaller bus and still only has 12GB. 1440p card.

Of course you can make it work but you are looking to start off just over barely making it either way.

I'd do neither and just use a 4k monitor if I bought one for media and legacy games/upscaling some newer ones but if it is hell or high water then the 4070ti.
At least .you have a little more vram and might be able to make use of frame generation sometimes.

A 4k monitor ought to come with a warning sticker that says the purchase of this product may lead to a continuous commitment to a flagship card every generation.

[Spinninwheel87]

yes i see, games like forspoken and hogwarts is probably bad optimized to begin with, im playing re4 remake on a 3060ti in high 1440p 60 fps or 4k 30-40 fps. This game looks miles ahead vs forspoken, but i understand that 3080 is at edge for 4k ulta 60 fps today, and 4070ti would be worth it over 3080 but same time i have seen tests on youtube where they have same fps in 4k with dx12. but overall 15-20 fps more on average in a few games, Now i have a new question.

i5 13500 or i712700? i5 is cheaper and perform a few % better on benchmark, who would run coolest of this two option and for gaming only both should be enough?
Im on a budget around 2000-2300 dollar and i cant go over that.

[Guydodge]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spinninwheel87:

yes i see, games like forspoken and hogwarts is probably bad optimized to begin with, im playing re4 remake on a 3060ti in high 1440p 60 fps or 4k 30-40 fps. This game looks miles ahead vs forspoken, but i understand that 3080 is at edge for 4k ulta 60 fps today, and 4070ti would be worth it over 3080 but same time i have seen tests on youtube where they have same fps in 4k with dx12. but overall 15-20 fps more on average in a few games, Now i have a new question.

i5 13500 or i712700? i5 is cheaper and perform a few % better on benchmark, who would run coolest of this two option and for gaming only both should be enough?
Im on a budget around 2000-2300 dollar and i cant go over that.

find the money or cut corners but get the 13600k its far superior to the 13500
with its overclock abilities it will serve you for many years

[Spinninwheel87]

yes the i5 13600k is just 50 dollar more so its worth it, do you think it would run a bit cooler vs the 12th i7 12700? Because if it does i would be good with aircooler this time i think.