stuttering in some games after gpu upgrade

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After changing 1060 3gb to 6600 non-xt some of my games started stuttering a lot.Usually the stutter goes away after running around the same area for a while.Some game don't have any stuttering.The thing is I'm upgrading my old PC with a PCIE 3.0 mobo.Could that be the cause?As far as I know there's basically no differnece between pci 3.0 and 4.0 on 6600 and 6600xt

[A&A]

PCIe 3 x 8 lanes it is not a huge deal

[DevaVictrix]

No, to be fair ive just been watching YouTube videos… max 10%ish difference on average fps and 1% lows are within a frame or two.

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Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by W O K E I S M:

There is a difference with AMD, just not Nvidia for some reason. AMD suffers slightly in the average fps and moreso in 1% lows, which is where you feel stutter.

So am I screwed with a pci 3.0 board?

No, you shouldn't be screwed. You just lose a few percent in performance. You just don't want that few percent to show up in the %1 lows, that where stutter might be experienced.

You just have to run metrics and see where exactly the problem is at that very time. Look at the graph and when you see a frame spike immediately look at what your CPU is doing. Is it throttling? Is it overheating? Is it bottlenecked? My fx-9590 doesn't stutter so your 8700k definitely shouldn't be, that's what I think. I'm actually using rtx 3060 on pcie 2.0 and I'm not stuttering.

[A&A]

Originally posted by DevaVictrix:

No, to be fair ive just been watching YouTube videos… max 10%ish difference on average fps and 1% lows are within a frame or two.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/

https://ourdigitech.com/hardware/pcie-4-0-vs-pcie-3-0-only-3-difference-in-gaming-benchmark/

10% is possible if you have faster CPU, but i7 8700k is a little bit off that.

[Snow]

There are countless tests online like this, showing that RX 6600 can't saturate PCIe 3.0, so that's definitely not the culprit. Have you tried limiting your framerate?

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Originally posted by emoticorpse:

What board did you upgrade to? What was old one?

I didn't changed the board. Asrock H310CM-HDV.I am aware that it has poor VRMs for 8700K,but I've been using this combo for a while and never got throttled.The stuttering appeared after changing 1063 to 6600

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Originally posted by Snow:

There are countless tests online like this, showing that RX 6600 can't saturate PCIe 3.0, so that's definitely not the culprit. Have you tried limiting your framerate?

I always limit fps to 60 using RTSS.But how does it relate to stuttering/freezing i.e. large frametime spikes?

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

What board did you upgrade to? What was old one?

I didn't changed the board. Asrock H310CM-HDV.I am aware that it has poor VRMs for 8700K,but I've been using this combo for a while and never got throttled.The stuttering appeared after changing 1063 to 6600

You try resetting bios to defaults? Updating bios?

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Originally posted by W O K E I S M:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

So am I screwed with a pci 3.0 board?

No, you shouldn't be screwed. You just lose a few percent in performance. You just don't want that few percent to show up in the %1 lows, that where stutter might be experienced.

You just have to run metrics and see where exactly the problem is at that very time. Look at the graph and when you see a frame spike immediately look at what your CPU is doing. Is it throttling? Is it overheating? Is it bottlenecked? My fx-9590 doesn't stutter so your 8700k definitely shouldn't be, that's what I think. I'm actually using rtx 3060 on pcie 2.0 and I'm not stuttering.

The thing is usually there's nothing weird going on with the temperature,clocks and % of usage when the stutters happen.Both CPU and GPU run at max clocks all the time and both never go over 60-70C.I installed gammaxx 300 on my 8700k so there should be no problems with the temps while playing games

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

I always use afterburner to monitor framerate and frametime.With the old card frametime was 3x more stable.On the new gpu it's spiking a lot.60hz screen by the way

CPU - i7 8700k RAM - 16gb DDR4 2666MHz CL16 dual channel

I'm out of guesses then.

My first two thoughts you got a big performance uplift and it was exposing what weren't there before from lower performance, or that you had a much older (quad core and DDR3) platform and that it was just showing its age in some heavier titles, since you said it was title specific.

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Originally posted by DevaVictrix:

No, to be fair ive just been watching YouTube videos… max 10%ish difference on average fps and 1% lows are within a frame or two.

Well,I also watched some benchmarks on youtube before I decided to buy this card and I was rly surprised

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Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

I always use afterburner to monitor framerate and frametime.With the old card frametime was 3x more stable.On the new gpu it's spiking a lot.60hz screen by the way

CPU - i7 8700k RAM - 16gb DDR4 2666MHz CL16 dual channel

I'm out of guesses then.

My first two thoughts you got a big performance uplift and it was exposing what weren't there before from lower performance, or that you had a much older (quad core and DDR3) platform and that it was just showing its age in some heavier titles, since you said it was title specific.

No.My previous CPU was i3 9100F and I did not have ANY kind of stuttering in e.g. Hunt Showdown with it.The stuttering appeared exactly after I changed the graphics card.

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Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

I didn't changed the board. Asrock H310CM-HDV.I am aware that it has poor VRMs for 8700K,but I've been using this combo for a while and never got throttled.The stuttering appeared after changing 1063 to 6600

You try resetting bios to defaults? Updating bios?

Already updated bios to the latest version.Already tried resetting to default

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

I'm out of guesses then.

My first two thoughts you got a big performance uplift and it was exposing what weren't there before from lower performance, or that you had a much older (quad core and DDR3) platform and that it was just showing its age in some heavier titles, since you said it was title specific.

No.My previous CPU was i3 9100F and I did not have ANY kind of stuttering in e.g. Hunt Showdown with it.The stuttering appeared exactly after I changed the graphics card.

I wasn't aware a CPU change also occurred.

While the behavior started after the GPU change and not the CPU change, I am still wondering about that motherboard and the CPU. That H310 board with its limited VRMs might not properly be feeding the CPU all of the time?

Do you still have the prior CPU to test?

What is reflected (like with Afterburner) when these stutters occurs? Is GPU use high? Is CPU use high? (Do not look at overall utilization but at per core utilization.) What are CPU clocks like? My thought would be that something has to be limited at these moments. That's typically what stutters are the result of.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

You try resetting bios to defaults? Updating bios?

Already updated bios to the latest version.Already tried resetting to default

Hey can you go to Userbenchmark.com and download their free program and give me a link to the results when it opens up in your browser so that I can see that page?