stuttering in some games after gpu upgrade

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

After changing 1060 3gb to 6600 non-xt some of my games started stuttering a lot.Usually the stutter goes away after running around the same area for a while.Some game don't have any stuttering.The thing is I'm upgrading my old PC with a PCIE 3.0 mobo.Could that be the cause?As far as I know there's basically no differnece between pci 3.0 and 4.0 on 6600 and 6600xt

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Firstly wipe out all GPU Drivers using the DDU app and do that in safe mode.

Then once done and restarted install latest GPU Driver from AMD.com

Reboot when done. Then configure the gpu settings. For Games go to where it stores the config files it created such as graphics settings and delete the file. Then launch the game and configure the graphics settings.

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

Originally posted by smallcat:

i have RTX 4060 which is x8 and there s no stuttering . On my GTX 1650 there was stuttering in a few games despite it s x16 - 4GB VRAM was not enough. My CPU supports PCI-E gen 3.0 only . So , i mean the reason for the stuttering cannot be the card itself . In my case , i see a huge improvement .

what is your CPU ? memory in dual channel ?
aha , i found from another thread - you have i7 8700k . Check for overheating

Chechk for overheating is a really basic stuff that every adequte person is aware of.In my case it never gets over 60-70C

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Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Firstly wipe out all GPU Drivers using the DDU app and do that in safe mode.

Then once done and restarted install latest GPU Driver from AMD.com

Reboot when done. Then configure the gpu settings. For Games go to where it stores the config files it created such as graphics settings and delete the file. Then launch the game and configure the graphics settings.

I reinstalled windows completely & installed the newest drivers offline before it auto installs it's crappy one

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

As far as I know there's basically no differnece between pci 3.0 and 4.0 on 6600 and 6600xt

There is a difference with AMD, just not Nvidia for some reason. AMD suffers slightly in the average fps and moreso in 1% lows, which is where you feel stutter.

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Originally posted by W O K E I S M:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

As far as I know there's basically no differnece between pci 3.0 and 4.0 on 6600 and 6600xt

There is a difference with AMD, just not Nvidia for some reason. AMD suffers slightly in the average fps and moreso in 1% lows, which is where you feel stutter.

So am I screwed with a pci 3.0 board?

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Originally posted by smallcat:

Check the virtual memory , the size of the page file

It's set to auto.Already tried increasing it to 8-16gb

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Usually the stutter goes away after running around the same area for a while.

Hmm. Try enabling shader pre-caching in Steam settings.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Those newer Radeons are never going.to work right on PCIE 3.0 boards.

Might as well go get RTX 3060 or other RTX 30 series if going to stay on PCIE 3.0 for a while longer.

[Illusion of Progress]

If it's lessened after an initial venture into an area, then it reasons that you're probably not having any actual baseline performance issues and it's just either asset streaming or shader compilation.

As for why you didn't see it until after the graphics card upgrade, I can only guess as there's a number of possible causes. Namely, one guess is this though...

You're likely getting better performance now. What were masked stutters before, are now more prominent. Those that play at higher refresh rates (and get frame rates to match) tend to be more vocal about stutter, after all.

Either way if it's not reproducible and only happens initially, then that's my guess.

PCI Express 3.0 is very unlikely to be involved. Unless you check and find you're using 100% of the link state bandwidth at all of these stutter moments, I wouldn't even question it based on established information. I'm going out on a limb and guessing you're not going to see full utilization at those moments, because that much bandwidth usually isn't used, but I do encourage you to check for yourself to verify one way or the other.

What games are some examples this happens in, and what CPU and RAM (namely RAM frequency) do you have? An older CPU with lower RAM bandwidth (think quad core on DDR3) in some games might be adding to this. Just another guess.

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Originally posted by Haruspex:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Usually the stutter goes away after running around the same area for a while.

Hmm. Try enabling shader pre-caching in Steam settings.

it's always enabled by default

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Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

If it's lessened after an initial venture into an area, then it reasons that you're probably not having any actual baseline performance issues and it's just either asset streaming or shader compilation.

As for why you didn't see it until after the graphics card upgrade, I can only guess as there's a number of possible causes. Namely, one guess is this though...

You're likely getting better performance now. What were masked stutters before, are now more prominent. Those that play at higher refresh rates (and get frame rates to match) tend to be more vocal about stutter, after all.

I always use afterburner to monitor framerate and frametime.With the old card frametime was 3x more stable.On the new gpu it's spiking a lot.60hz screen by the way

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

What games are some examples this happens in, and what CPU and RAM (namely RAM frequency) do you have? An older CPU with lower RAM bandwidth (think quad core on DDR3) in some games might be adding to this. Just another guess.

Here are some examples:
Cyberpunk 2077 - flat frametime graph i.e. no microstutters
Doom eternal - same
Hunt showdown - full of spikes
Rise of the tomb raider - same

CPU - i7 8700k RAM - 16gb DDR4 2666MHz CL16 dual channel

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well HUNT Showdown is an Online only game; so what do you expect.

[emoticorpse]

What board did you upgrade to? What was old one?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes please let us know all of the "current" specs.
As all I see you listing are the old specs; aside from new GPU.

If you upgraded to newer PCIE 4.0 Motherboard and CPU that's still using DDR4; then you'll want to use DDR4 3200 or 3600; 2666 will be much too slow for modern CPUs.

[DevaVictrix]

Doesn’t the 6600 only use 8 pci lanes? PCI 3.0 could be causing the problem, yeah. It’s only got half the bandwidth of 8 lanes of pci 4.0