Are there better alternatives for the 4070 in the pricerange?

[UwU]

Also what is a affordable board cpu combo for it?

[Illusion of Progress]

If it has to be nVidia, no.

If you care about ray-tracing performance, probably not.

If price/performance for rasterization performance (performance minus ray-tracing) is what matters, definitely.

The RX 6800 XT is already better than it (slightly cheaper and slightly more rasterization performance, plsu more VRAM), and the upcoming RX 7800 XT should a bit better on top of that. The AMD cards will use a bit more power than an RTX 4070 though.

As for the CPU/motherboard (what about RAM?), you'd have to define "affordable". This means different things to different people.

Also would help to specify currency and what you plan to do with it. Since you appear to need at least a motherboard/CPU (and RAM?) and GPU, it might be better to just give the total budget instead of focusing on a particular GPU. Setting strict quotas per part isn't always the best idea. Look at total budget and try and allocate most efficiently to each part.

[UwU]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

If it has to be nVidia, no.

If you care about ray-tracing performance, probably not.

If price/performance for rasterization performance (performance minus ray-tracing) is what matters, definitely.

The RX 6800 XT is already better than it (slightly cheaper and slightly more rasterization performance, plsu more VRAM), and the upcoming RX 7800 XT should a bit better on top of that. The AMD cards will use a bit more power than an RTX 4070 though.

As for the CPU/motherboard (what about RAM?), you'd have to define "affordable". This means different things to different people.

Also would help to specify currency and what you plan to do with it. Since you appear to need at least a motherboard/CPU (and RAM?) and GPU, it might be better to just give the total budget instead of focusing on a particular GPU. Setting strict quotas per part isn't always the best idea. Look at total budget and try and allocate most efficiently to each part.

Honestly max is 800€ for an upgrade. I have DDR4 16GB CL14 3200mhz RAM

650 W Seasonic Prime Titanium

Currently on 7700k and 1080 :(

[UwU]

So should I go with Ryzen or Intel? and are those two CPU's by best bet for the budget?

[UwU]

Also is the 5800X3D worth the premium over the 5800x? I just want to play Cyberpunk, Red dead aND storfeld

[emoticorpse]

excluding AMD, No, or everybody would have gotten it and stopped complaining about Nvidia prices.

[UwU]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

excluding AMD, No, or everybody would have gotten it and stopped complaining about Nvidia prices.

no, to what? So should I go with 5800x and 4070?

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Mimisoda:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

excluding AMD, No, or everybody would have gotten it and stopped complaining about Nvidia prices.

no, to what? So should I go with 5800x and 4070?

Oh, i meant gpu. I would go with 5800x3d if you mainly game. Yeah 4070 also if you don't want AMD.

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by Mimisoda:

Also is the 5800X3D worth the premium over the 5800x? I just want to play Cyberpunk, Red dead aND storfeld

Yes and no.

In reality, the 5800X is usually irrelevant because the 5700X is usually a bit cheaper and is around the the same performance anyway. So you should be comparing between the 5700X and 5800X3D on AM4 if anything.

The 5800X3D will outperform a 12600K in games on average, but the 5800X3D has more variable performance (meaning the range of performance is wider than most other CPUs because it depends on if the cache helps), so the 12600K will definitely win some too.

Think of it like this (this is for gaming or other cache benefiting applications only).

5700X/5800X < 7700X < 12700K < 13700K

I'm using the Core i7s to make it comparable in core count (minus e-cores) but you'd probably realistically be looking at the 12600K/13600K instead. Anyway...

The 5800X3D performs anywhere as low as the 5700X/5800X, but anywhere as high as above the 12th generation (including the 12900K). On average it's above the 12600K/12700K in games, but with lower lows and some higher highs.

Your RAM is good for an AM4 or LGA 1700 system (while an AM4 system would be more "ideal" with something like 3,600 MHz RAM, in reality 3,200 MHz isn't much slower and in the case of the 5800X3D in particular, it matters less because by virtue of its larger cache, it's fetching from RAM less, meaning RAM speed means a bit less with the X3D CPUs). AM5 is off the table though unless you want to have to buy RAM (but I'd probably only recommend AM5 if you were going for a 7800X3D which is likely beyond your budget).

With that PSU, I'm also wondering if an RTX 4070 would be a safer option compared to a 6800 XT/7800 XT.